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    Another sample reactionary goverment we have. If the txting IDIOT bus driver didn't crash, nobody wouldn't give a hoot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozcity View Post
    susunod nyan magtatayo na sila nga mga santo sa bawat intersection....:rofl:
    bawat major bus stop meron station of the cross

    then every 3 pm all vehicles stop for 3 o'clock prayer


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    Kung sa multo sila takot, mabuti na rin kung ibbless nila ang Balete drive... Yun ang (mukhang) haunted. :hysterical:

    Alam nyo, blessing the place won't do any help. Maybe bless the TEs, Drivers too?

    Kung mababawasan nga aksidente dahil sa blessing na ito, paulanan na ng holy water buong pinas

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    I saw this news item at Unang Hirit.

    MMDA to lead EDSA blessing this morning "to lessen" (daw) the accidents on this main thoroughfare.
    And take note.....it would take more than one drum of Holy Water, to bless the whole stretch of the hi-way. Ha-ha!

    Sa tingin nyo ba, mababawasan ang accidents, kung puro mga ogags naman ang mga public utility drivers natin?
    Aba...., sana bless-an din ni father yung mga kotong cops at traffic enforcers......
    sobra-sobra na blessings ang na-kotong ng mga yan sir... dapat sa mga yan ikalat ang dugo sa edsa para maubos na talaga and di pamarisan... isama na din yung mga barumbadong drivers... sigurado walang aksidente dyan...

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    There are a lot choke points in Edsa were 6 lanes disappear to two, like the part in buendia and then the cubao underpass entrance.

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    EDSA was hell from Makati to Ortigas last night... after Ortigas sobrang luwag na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    There are a lot choke points in Edsa were 6 lanes disappear to two, like the part in buendia and then the cubao underpass entrance.

    Is there something that the mmda can do about this? Sa buendia kasi its the overpass pillars thats causing the bottleneck. It took 1 lane
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    the only way that this EDSA problem will be solved is the buses talaga. sila lang ang problema.

    the EDSA buses profiteering problem kasi is still reminiscent of the old Las Vegas setup eh, ang dami-dami players kasi walang regulation. so mga organized crime from Chicago, New York, Miami etc. kanya-kanya kita. and then nagkaron balancing effect, of course the killings of families na na nagbenefit duon pero look at what Vegas now. parang dalawang malaking kumpanya na lang nagko-kontrol dun. and there is order. the same is true with macao, it's Stanley Ho vs. the Vegas Casinos. two controllers parang 2-party system ng govts.

    dito sa EDSA bus problem tingin ko talaga dapat magkarun ng balancing effect, and since it's mostly anarchy, baka nga yun mga buses niya eh controlled ng iba't ibang sindikato and so ang gulo-gulo. dapat magkarun ng power struggle, yun 2 pinakamalakas at powerful ang mag-prevail.

    imagine mali pala yun 3,500 buses na sinabi ko earlier, 6,000 buses pala ang umiikot sa EDSA. ngaun. so halos short yun 420M per month na umiikot na pera sa EDSA. almost double siguro, lagay na lang na'tin sa P700M per month. or that's Php 8.4B anually.



    putsa 2 power powers at 4B each, not bad. eh sa pasahe lang yun. these companies can also earn if they produce their own buses. ang mura kaya ng King Long Bus, ang dami neto so Macau, shuttle eto sa Casinos eh. so why bother manufacturing our own.

    so yun na lang, yan ang makasolve dyan. magkarun ng power play. of course, there will be killings, pero pahirap naman sila sa mga mamayan at motorista so we can just turn a blind eye. pag nalinis na, then we support the top 2 survivors. and therefore there will be order

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    btw, mayroon nga ako kakilala apo na sa tuhod yan ng isang malaking bus company dito sa'tin, since 70's pa ata yun lolo sa bus business. they have buses in edsa and the buses plying dyan sa sta mesa ba yun

    tuwing nakikita ko, lagi may bago ipad, iphone, macbook, car, sa fb lagi travel sa europe, US, HK, SG etc. mind you, may mga anak na din ito matanda na din. si tigi-tigisa sila.

    kung minsan gusto ko sabihin, hindi nyo ba naiisip pasarap kayo ng pasarap lagi tapos buong sambayanan hirap na hirap araw-araw para lang makabiyahe with lost productivity and nagkakasakit dahil sa stress, tapos kayo pasarap lang dyan. and hindi lang mga mahihirap na tao ang affected nyo, kungdi lahat, middle, working, and rich also, kasi lahat bumibiyahe eh.

    ewan siguro one of these days, baka sabihin. but I have this feeling na magkakarun din ng karma etong mga ito.
    Last edited by pop3corn; July 12th, 2012 at 04:58 PM.

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    This type of intersection will improve the flow of traffic at EDSA:


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    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    This type of intersection will improve the flow of traffic at EDSA:

    Or we can just burn all the buses down.

    My pure city driving FC last week went down by 1km/L just because of this EDSA traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    This type of intersection will improve the flow of traffic at EDSA:


    It will only work if you have enough land to develop such a setup. Unfortunately it's either we don't have the land, or the owner does not want to sell (and puts a building in that part of unused land you wanted) or the MMDA cannot get hold of proper funding to get it done right in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    This type of intersection will improve the flow of traffic at EDSA:

    imagine all of this infrastructure which will cost billions of pesos, para lang sa populist policy na nakakaawa ang mga bus drivers

    why not just employ Fascism here, ubusin na lang sila mga weak people na naapektuhan tayo mga productive people of society. di ba pwede ganun na lang

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    imagine all of this infrastructure which will cost billions of pesos, para lang sa populist policy na nakakaawa ang mga bus drivers
    I'm no expert but my guess is building segregated underground bus stops at main intersections will be cheaper and more effective in keeping traffic moving compared to the plan to build a highway on top of EDSA.

    And a better flowing traffic will benefit everybody: bus drivers, the commuting public and the private vehicle owners.

    why not just employ Fascism here, ubusin na lang sila mga weak people na naapektuhan tayo mga productive people of society. di ba pwede ganun na lang
    Do that and the leftists will lead a revolt of the masses.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    It will only work if you have enough land to develop such a setup. Unfortunately it's either we don't have the land, or the owner does not want to sell (and puts a building in that part of unused land you wanted) or the MMDA cannot get hold of proper funding to get it done right in the first place.
    True. Frustrating, isn't it?

    Singapore was able to build underground stations and tunnels for its subway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    This type of intersection will improve the flow of traffic at EDSA:


    dun sa maliit na access will just create bottle neck pag liliko mga kotse dun, making each main highway having only 2 effective free flowing lanes.


    about sa bus stop sa ilalim, sa dami ng bus, mapupuno din yan hahaba ang pila aabot sa labas, then magsasakay sila bago pumasok sa bustop dahil sa mga atat na pasahero then magsasakay pa ulit sila dun sa pag labas.

    disiplina sa pasahero at driver at bawasan or i control ang bus sa edsa and there will be peace on earth. :D

    Sa Fort bonifacio, sinusunod ang bus stops and mga tao naka pila sa bus stops pa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foifoi05 View Post
    dun sa maliit na access will just create bottle neck pag liliko mga kotse dun, making each main highway having only 2 effective free flowing lanes.
    Whenever the designer of the Tableta PHUV makes a comment, I take notes.

    Drawing revised.
    - The opening between the main road and the service road is now bigger.
    - The service road is now wider at the intersection.
    - Bus stops located under EDSA (if there are space constraints).



    about sa bus stop sa ilalim, sa dami ng bus, mapupuno din yan hahaba ang pila aabot sa labas, then magsasakay sila bago pumasok sa bustop dahil sa mga atat na pasahero then magsasakay pa ulit sila dun sa pag labas.

    disiplina sa pasahero at driver at bawasan or i control ang bus sa edsa and there will be peace on earth. :D
    The layout of the proposed bus stop prevents chaos.
    - "first in, first out" principle (walang singitan)
    - segregated according to destination

    Quote Originally Posted by hein View Post
    Iba utak ng Singaporean sa Pinoy.
    Singapore is a small country but their sidewalks are wider than ours. Pati industrial areas nila may sidewalk at greenery.

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    Good luck evicting the big buildings standing at those spots at some places. One is a People Power shrine, another is a government building. And yet another is a powerful TV station...

    If only we could...

    Edit... Underground pala... Still, the problem is the basement parking and foundations in those areas... Lots of stuff to get in the way of the depots.

    What would work out is simply a proper queueing and dispatch system. Simply to match the number of buses at each stop with the number of passengers... Which minimizes the stationary time of each bus and speeds up traffic flow.
    Last edited by niky; July 19th, 2012 at 07:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Good luck evicting the big buildings standing at those spots at some places. One is a People Power shrine, another is a government building. And yet another is a powerful TV station...

    If only we could...

    Edit... Underground pala... Still, the problem is the basement parking and foundations in those areas... Lots of stuff to get in the way of the depots.

    What would work out is simply a proper queueing and dispatch system. Simply to match the number of buses at each stop with the number of passengers... Which minimizes the stationary time of each bus and speeds up traffic flow.
    Even an underground depot will have issues like existing structures that may be affected and weakened by underground diggings/construction. Example is the EDSA/ORTIGAS intersection which badly needs a proper bus depot, yet there is no place for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Even an underground depot will have issues like existing structures that may be affected and weakened by underground diggings/construction. Example is the EDSA/ORTIGAS intersection which badly needs a proper bus depot, yet there is no place for it.
    And isnt that Tropical Hut property beside SEC still a deep, open pit?

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