[merged] ingat sa gitgitan at makipagduruan sa kalye.

[Autobeat]

From the TV report, the Cefiro seems to be at the right most of the street entering the village? If so, it seems this lawyer in the Toyota may have been counterflowing, or exiting the village improperly (speculation only), causing a close mishap with the entering Cefiro. Baka hindi pa siya nag-sorry, through a simple hand gesture? This could be the reason the victim got enraged. The act may have as well enraged a good number of other motorists, if they were in the Canizares' place.

There is definitely something mentally wrong with this lawyer guy, on top of shooting an unarmed Canizares, but to also shoot to kill the woman passenger of the Cefiro.

[kapitan88]

i think mas tanga pa din yung bumuba at nanipa. why? sino ang patay? as they say, di bale nang ikaw ang basahan, kaysa ikaw ang basbasan.

true enough, na kaya siya may baril dahil duwag sya, kaya nga when he thought that his life was in danger with that fool, ayun, neutralize nya yung threat. ang di ko maintindihan bakit pati yung kasama, tinira din? was the companion also a threat?

in any case, mali pa din yung shooter, pero, in that scenario, makapagisip pa kaya tayo ng husto nun, or instinct na lang ang magdadala?

[shadow]

ganito lang sa akin both of them deserve kung ano man nangyari sa kanilang dalawa...

[uls]

the shootee got what he deserved.

Di naman siguro first time nya babaan, murahin at duruin ang kapwa motorist... he could be behaving like that ever since he learned how to drive.

Sigurado madami na sya namura at dinuro throughout his life... madami na sya na-hurt na tao...

Kung sa bahay ni Big Brother, dapat ma-evict na sya coz he his causing imbalance in the house.

Higher powers always restore balance.

[Charlie_Brown]

kawawa naman yung family na naiwan nila. sana magsilbing lesson ito sa lahat lalo na sa mga mainitin ang ulo sa pagmamaneho.

ang hindi ko lang maintindihan, bkit kelangan mo pa bumaba ng sasakyan para murahin ang nakasalubong mong kotse. at umalis na nga daw yung bumaril, eh sinipa pa ng matapang na driver. naka-hanap lng sya ng katapat. ang masama, may nadamay pang iba!

[Galactus]

Di naman siguro first time nya babaan, murahin at duruin ang kapwa motorist... he could be behaving like that ever since he learned how to drive.

Yup, I agree.

Kaya nga siguro malakas ang loob, kasi he got away with it so many times before. Baka mas malaki siya or mas malakas ang boses or marunong sa martial arts kaya gustong manghamon ng away. Kung totoo nga siguro na umiwas na lang yung shooter, pero tinadyakan pa yung kotse kahit alam na may baril, then it was a very foolish thing to do.

Anyway, let's all learn na lang from this incident. Sana nga makulong ng matagal yung abugado kasi kawawa talaga yung babaeng kasama.

[mommyblue]

konting lamig sana at madami pang pasensya sa mga kapwa motorista para maiwasan ang ganitong insidente..

[marco624]

IMO, the shooter and the "shootee" deserved what they've got...kawawa yung babae, nadamay lang sya sa payabangan ng dalawang "macho" na ayaw padaig sa isa't isa..

What a waste, kawawa ang kanilang mga pamilya, dahil lang sa simpleng traffic altercation....

Pagbigyan na lang siguro natin yung mga gumigitgit, ilang segundo lang naman ang mawawala sa atin, kesa naman buhay natin ang masayang..

[wally]

Used to be that way din, laging mainit, palamura at mabigat ang kamay sa busina everytime I felt there was a real or imagined traffic transgression against me. Anyways, I found a better way to let off emotion and steam. Everytime na may sisingit, out of lane or any other imbecile act sa kalsada, tumatawa ako ng malakas! And guess what, it has worked wonders for my blood pressure, at least may outlet. Ano ba naman yung extra 1-2 secs. na naungusan ako, I will still reach my destination anyway.

It also feels a lot better na maging good samaritan sa kalsada from time-to-time. Ang srap ng feeling pag may pinauna ka sa intersection tapos sumaludo or kumaway sayo. Sobrang positive ang energy mo for the day.

Googled the names of the victim, kung sila nga ito, the Canizares guy is a PLDT executive pala who does mentoring pa sa mga summer OJT students, tapos yung babae batch 97 ng UPIS (kung sila nga ang mga ito?)

[uls]

Pagbigyan na lang siguro natin yung mga gumigitgit, ilang segundo lang naman ang mawawala sa atin, kesa naman buhay natin ang masayang..

Exactly... isipin nyo nga... ano mas hassle sa inyo?

Bababa kayo ng sasakyan at makipag-away sa kalye? o hayaan nalang and be on or way?

[Honda97]

very apt yung term na senseless violence. people dying for such reasons as a traffic altercation.

in my experience, mabilis ring uminit ulo ko lalo na sa mga inconsiderate drivers. but i'll never get out of the car. siguro hanggang busina lang ako. but something has to be done about drivers that just make traffic worse (yung mga nagka-counterflow tapos sumisingit sa harap).

anyway, may asawa't anak na ako kaya i can't afford to do wild and crazy things like pick a fight because of the traffic... but i do know how angry people can be because of it...

[RedHorse]

simple wave ng hand... kahit counterflow ka pa, parara-anin ka naman. Pero, naka shades, dark tint windows mo, + malakas pa busina mo, maglabas ka na lang ng baril

[cumbersome]

FYI, the case is not a murder, it is homicide, but just the same, a person who see another person armed with a pistol and yet have the guts to call him names and worst kick his car is really an imbecile.

a normal person will backout of a fight knowing that he is in an inferior position, pero ito, alam na ngang may baril sugod pa rin siya, anong tawag mo sa taong ito kundi NAGPAPAKAMATAY talaga.

Er, people not in the legal profession use murder and homicide interchangeably. But the number of shots fired insinuates the intent to kill. And the shooting of the woman trying to mediate will definitely make it worse for the shooter. But that's besides the point. That people would call the victim of such an unfortunate incident a moron is really, unequivocally, disturbing.

[Altis6453]

Er, people not in the legal profession use murder and homicide interchangeably. But the number of shots fired insinuates the intent to kill. And the shooting of the woman trying to mediate will definitely make it worse for the shooter. But that's besides the point. That people would call the victim of such an unfortunate incident a moron is really, unequivocally, disturbing.

I beg to differ. Murder is attended by circumstances such as evident premediation, use of superior force, etc. Homicide is simple killing not attended by any special circumstances.

[NazQ]

definitely an i opener for me. because honestly.. kung nasa position ako nung corolla driver, i really don't know kung nakapagpigil ako. malamang bumaba din ako and tried to pound the guy with a steel pipe.

its really easy for us to say na di ko gagawin yan, but you'll never know..

condolences na lang to the family who lost their love ones... and sa family ng shooter, sana they can still bounce back from this incident.

[valskie01]

definitely an i opener for me. because honestly.. kung nasa position ako nung corolla driver, i really don't know kung nakapagpigil ako. malamang bumaba din ako and tried to pound the guy with a steel pipe.

its really easy for us to say na di ko gagawin yan, but you'll never know..

condolences na lang to the family who lost their love ones... and sa family ng shooter, sana they can still bounce back from this incident.

but the question is sino ba sa kanila ang unang nang-gitgit? kung ako yung corolla driver at ako ang sumingit and unang nang-gitgit i think i will hold my temper and never retaliate kahit pag mumurahin pa ako at sipain ang sasakyan ko

[badsekktor]

definitely an eye opener for me. mahaba pasensya ko sa kalye at pinalalagpas ko lahat ng magugulang sa kalsada kaya siguro hindi ako nalalagay sa alanganing sitwasyon. mas matapang pa si esmi sakin!

pero siguro kung tadyakan na yun sasakyan eh ibang usapan na yan.... luckily for me i dont carry my firearms outside my house or my farm....

[wewoy_romero]

Ah ganun pala nangyari, haven't seen the video yet. Well dapat ginawa nya nag-warning shot, ewan ko lang kung hindi na-ihi ung nang-hamon. Sa mga ganyan potpot na lang gawin nyo or bright light, hindi ung baba pa

if i were in his place (inagrabyado, tried to walk away, but was still threatened) and i was immune to prosecution, i'd just give a warning shot - to his knee. yung tipong di na siya makakapagdrive ulit. para mabawasan mga katulad niya sa kalye. (sometimes i wish i could just shoot away at the knees of all those siraulo's sa kalsada)

note: both are still wrong. though, i understand yung side ng shooter who tried to control himself. kaya lang di na talaga kinaya. what i don't understand is why he has to shoot the companion also. i completely don't understand the shootee why he has to confront the shooter. let go na lang pag ganun.

[cumbersome]

I beg to differ. Murder is attended by circumstances such as evident premediation, use of superior force, etc. Homicide is simple killing not attended by any special circumstances.

Er, yeah, those were the definitions i used. Which part were you disagreeing with?

[Monseratto]

Hmmm...mayabang talaga yung shooter. Kamag anak daw ng isang Sandigan Bayan Judge. Baka humungi ng tulong sa mga connenctions at brods niya. At bakit may dalang baril? May gun ban ngayon para sa SK at barangay elections, di ba?

Suspect in Pasig road rage refuses to undergo paraffin test


MANILA, Philippines -- The lawyer, who shot dead two people over a traffic altercation in Pasig City Tuesday, has refused to undergo paraffin tests after his arrest, a radio report said Wednesday.

Pasig police said lawyer Manuel Hernandez has not been cooperating in their investigation more five hours after he was arrested for shooting dead Edgardo Cañezares and Catherine Palmero near the corner of General Roxas Street and Shaw Boulevard around 1:30 p.m. Tuesday, a radio dzMM report said.

Police are trying to find out why -- despite a gun ban -- Hernandez had a 9mm pistol that he used in the shooting.

Hernandez, a lawyer working at the Pasig City Hall legal department, is detained at the Pasig Police Station. Homicide charges are being prepared against him.

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