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July 19th, 2014 01:17 AM #51I read the article and it says there that 100 are attendees of the AIDS conference.
Well, Amsterdam is the gay capital of Europe
Some hardliners are always anti-gay.
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July 19th, 2014 04:52 AM #52Mukhang may na kasamang American hindi pa na identify yung 50 passengesr..Ayon sa isang russian news umulan daw ng human bodies after explosion
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July 19th, 2014 09:43 AM #53
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From CIA assassination cock-up to nefarious Illuminati involvement: The MH17 conspiracy theories doing the internet rounds
As the world continued to search for answers over the downing of Flight MH17, the internet came alive with conspiracy theories today.
The Web has long been a haven for numerologists and conspiracy crackpots peddling their alternative analyses of events that shake the world.
And today was no different as web sleuths across the globe rushed online in a bid to hypothesize over what really happened to the doomed Malaysian Airlines passenger plane .
Was whoever shot down MH17 actually trying to assassinate Vladimir Putin?
Russia Today sparked a fever of speculation last night after publishing a report that claimed the doomed flight was flying almost the exact same path as Putin's presidential plane did less than 40 minutes later.
It quoted a source as telling Interfax news agency: 'I can say that Putin’s plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon.
Within minutes of the report, Twitter was flooded by claims the shooting was a botched assassination attempt.
Some even took it to mean US president Barack Obama ordered the C.I.A. to carry out the alleged hit.
'#OBAMA TRYING TO KILL #PUTIN #Putin's plane was following 'almost same route' as crashed #MalaysianAirlines #MH17,' gushed one excited user.
Another blamed banking dynasty the Rosthchild Family.
'ROTHSCHILDS TRIED TO KILL PUTIN & HIT WRONG PLANE TODAY - ALL BECAUSE OF BRICS BANK & USD END - HOW STUPID COULD THIS ZIONIST IDIOT BE?,' Dave Rocki blasted.
Or was it in fact the nefarious work of occult secret society The Illuminati?
Many have claimed that The Illuminati carried out the attack as part of its longstanding masterplan to trigger a third world war and thus establish a New World Order ... chiefly because of the plane's links to the number seven.
Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was a Boeing 777 and made its maiden flight on July 17, 1997 - 17 years ago to the day, many theorists point out.
On top of that, July is the seventh month of 2014. Adding up the year's numbers (2+0+1+4) makes seven.
Mike Glover wrote on Twitter: '#planecrash #Malay #Plane a #False #Flag? to escalate war & tensions -numbers though? Date 17/ 7 Flight 17 plane #777 #conspiracy #theory ?'
A writer on conspiracy website Before It’s News claimed the tragedy was 'clearly' an attempted false flag to launch a new global war.
They wrote: 'The occult/illuminati connection to this plane crash are laid out in the video and are absolutely stunning as the NWO (New World Order) attempts to start WW3 as their grip on power falls apart as the US dollar dies and on the same day TWA Flight 800 was shot down in 1996.'
The number seven is a figure that has long been associated with the clandestine group, who are said to view it as the essence of perfection.
Blogger IlluminatiWatcher.com wrote: 'I followed the previous Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 (exhaustively) and concluded that it must've been aliens; one of the first conspiracy theories to surface, and until we hear otherwise I'm sticking with it. In that MH370 conspiracy theories post I referenced the fact that the alleged Illuminati might have been involved due to the number 777 being tied in. You'll notice that this MH17 was also a Boeing 777.'
Reddit user, ISayWhatEvery1Thinks went a step further, writing: 'Mh17 (one seven) – a 777 has been flying for 17 (one seven) years, was shot down during the 17th (one seven) day of the 7th month of 2014.
'2+0+1+4=7.
'295 "souls on board" (Anderson cooper's words) 2+9+5=16 then 1+6 =7. A lot of 7s.'
Many modern conspiracy theories propose that world events are being controlled and manipulated by the Illuminati, a secretive and ancient society blamed by proponents for a string of world events including the Battle of Waterloo, the French Revolution and President John F. Kennedy's assassination.
There have even been suggestions that the group is in fact a Communist pressure party hellbent on creating a new world order by infiltrating the Hollywood film industry.
MH17 was shot down 17 years to the day since its maiden voyage ...
The group's involvement was further bolstered by a New York Times journalist who revealed the plane was shot down 17 years to the day since its maiden voyage.
C. J. Chivers tweeted: 'Haunting: Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777, Reg 9M-MRD, made 1st flight on 7-17-97. It met its end 17 years later, to the day -aviation official'
A coincidence or not, it was enough proof for many that a sinister plot was to blame.
Did Israel mastermind the shoot down to divert world's gaze from its assault on Gaza?
Some people even took to MailOnline's own comment section to expound their hypotheses.
'Benji', from London wrote: 'Did Israel have something to do with it? It's incredibly convenient for the government of Israel that the day before they launch their ground attack on Gaza.
'World attention and media coverage has been diverted from that to this MH17 incident. Could Israel be behind it so they can launch their attack on Palestine, and the inevitable deaths of hundreds of civilians that is likely to come with it, without
international media and governmental scrutiny?? hmmmmm.'
Benji didn't stand alone in his analysis today. Max Weedon added on Twitter: 'Missile downs flight #MH17 over Ukraine; Israel begins ground offensive against Hamas. Are the two linked?'
Do 'Pristine' passports prove it was all a hoax?
Many Twitter users claimed pictures of victims' passports found at the scene were in too good a condition to have possibly been involved in the crash.
'How could the passports found at the #MH17 crash site be so pristine? Wondering if these are authentic,' wrote Mamadoxie.
Another blasted: 'Look at these passports in pristine condition recovered from teh MH17 crash. Just like the 9/11 passport #falseflag.'
Could MH17 have actually been the same Malaysian Airlines plane that disappeared in March?
This argument appeared a little less-well researched than some of its counterparts.
But a lack of hard evidence didn't stop theorists sharing their views that MH17 was in fact MH370 - the plane that disappeared over the Indian Ocean in March.
ayCeePR wrote: 'Is this malaysian plane shot down by "terrorists" in ukraine the same plane that "disapeared" a few months ago?'
Daniel Jones added: 'Could the Malaysian plane that crashed in Ukraine b the same plane that disappeared some months ago?'
Was International Monetary Fund chief Christine Lagarde in fact the mastermind behind the atrocity?
The IMF Managing Director gave a speech to the National Press Club in Washington D.C. about the power of the number seven.
In the speech she used numerology to make a series of forecasts for 2014 based around the 'magic seven'.
Now I'm going to test your numerology skills by asking you to think about the magic seven,' she told the audience.
She went on to point out that 2014 will 'mark the 7th anniversary of the financial market jitters', and will be the 25th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall, 25th (2 + 5 = 7)'.
She made a series of further references to the number seven that inspired a glut of blog posts and tweets accusing her of sinister occult dealings.
'Not sure if anyone watched the "number 7″ video,' adds ISayWhatEvery1Thinks, 'Christine Lagarde, the chief of the IMF had some pretty cryptic uses of the number 7.'
Natalie Minnis was one of many who took to Twitter today to point out Lagarde's alleged links to the dark arts.
'Was Christine Lagarde trying to give a message about the #MH17 tragedy in her bizarre speech about numerology?' she tweeted.
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July 19th, 2014 04:33 PM #54condolence to the families of the lost souls. our deepest sympathies for the tragedy. the ukrainian military are either blind, short sighted or improperly trained. concerning obama, he has never ever been even a boy scout. the ukrainian government should be held accountable for an indiscriminate use of a deadly weapon that caused a lot of collateral damage that was not even a party nor a participant of their conflict
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July 19th, 2014 04:37 PM #55
Hmmm... the likeliest explanation I can think of:
The 9S18M1 "Kupol" target acquisition system of the 9K37 "Buk" has an IFF (Vyyavleniye drug ili vrag) system that can only identify friendly aircraft. Neutral and enemy aircraft lack the "hand shake" to be tagged as friendly (the same can be said of older american systems). So, the commercial jet would likely be tagged as hostile.
Another angle is that while the commercial jet was being tracked on radar, the missile operators misinterpreted the relatively low altitude flight as a "strafing run" of a bomber.Last edited by safeorigin; July 19th, 2014 at 04:40 PM.
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July 19th, 2014 05:56 PM #56Base on the conversation they intercepted mukkang kating kati mga rebels na mag pakawala ng missiles kaya ayan kala siguro spy plane... mga utak russian talaga reason pa nila may mga spy daw na sakay...hay naku dahil mga walang ka kwenta kwentang paniniwala nila dami na dadamay. maka pag pa bagsak lang ng plane kahit civilian talo talo na
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July 19th, 2014 06:45 PM #57
^It's not the first time it happened and yes, they have very itchy trigger fingers as we can see WAAAAAAY back in 2001:
Ukraine admits it shot down Russian airliner
By Ben Aris in Moscow
12:01AM BST 13 Oct 2001
Ukraine finally admitted yesterday that its military shot down a Russian airliner that crashed into the Black Sea last week, killing all 78 passengers and crew.
Evhen Marchuk, the chairman of Ukraine's security council, conceded that the plane had probably been brought down by "an accidental hit from an S-200 rocket fired during exercises".
Russian investigators believe a missile exploded near the plane, spraying it with shrapnel. Russian and Israeli scientists found metal pellets in the victims and in the fuselage.
Vladimir Rushailo, the chairman of Russia's security council, said: "The investigation has found that the disaster resulted from a strike by a warhead from an anti-aircraft missile."
Although both Russia and Ukraine were almost certainly aware of the cause from the start, it took eight days for Ukraine to accept responsibility.Damn, son! Where'd you find this?
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July 19th, 2014 11:18 PM #59From this thread dami biased against Russia, but if you'll go there and ask Filipinos who had vacation there, ma bait ang mga Russians.
Maybe bec of how Hollywood portrays them.
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July 20th, 2014 10:04 AM #60
In Pattaya (Thailand), there are a lot of Russian-looking dancers but when I asked them (in English) if they were russian, they proudly say "I am Ukrainian! ".
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