Malaysia Airlines Plane Disappears Over Ukraine [MOVED]

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Family missed Malaysia Airlines flight that crashed



A Scottish woman of Asian descent, her husband and their baby did not make it to Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 that crashed in Ukraine last night.

Mr Barry Sim and his wife Izzy, who heard about the tragedy on the way to the airport, spoke of the "sick feeling" they experienced on hearing the news. Mr Sim told the Telegraph: "You get this sick feeling in the pit of your stomach We started getting butterflies. Your heartbeat starts going."

His wife added: "There must have been someone watching over us and saying 'you must not get on that flight'.

"Coming to the airport in the taxi I was just crying ... I feel like I've been given a second chance."

The couple said there were not enough seats on the plane for them and so they booked another flight via KLM at the last minute.

The couple said they flew Malaysia Airlines frequently.

Mr Sim told Telegraph: "In my mind lightning never strikes twice in the same place so I am still philosophical that you get on the flight and you go about your life. I know my wife doesn't feel like that. Probably the last thing she wants to do now is fly, especially to Kuala Lumpur."

One Adelaide woman, who took MH17 a day earlier, also told ABC Radio that she twice came close to being on the fatal flight. “We flew into Kuala Lumpur from Amsterdam on the MH17 flight, the day before, so it’s a bit surreal to think that, you know, one day later and I wouldn’t be standing here talking to you right now,” she said.

She had originally booked herself on the fatal flight but decided to change it, thinking she would be too jet-lagged for work on Monday. She told ABC Radio: "Then there was another chance we could’ve been on that flight when we got to Schiphol Airport on Wednesday to check in they’d overbooked that flight — so we were on standby and we only found out literally a minute before the boarding closed that we were actually going to be leaving that day."

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http://www.newrepublic.com/article/1...s-buk-launcher

Where Did Ukraine's Rebels Get the Missile Launcher That Allegedly Shot Down the Malaysia Airlines Plane?
By Jessica Schulberg and Josh Kovensky

A Ukrainian official said Thursday that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, a passenger jet traveling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, was shot down near Snizhe today, a town close to the Ukrainian-Russian border. The plane was carrying 295 people and crashed early evening, local time.

No one has claimed responsibility for the attack, but immediate reports say that the airplane was grounded by a Buk surface-to-air missile system. The Buk, developed by the Soviet Union in 1979, has remained widely in use throughout the former Soviet states, including Ukraine.

General Philip Breedlove, the commander of the U.S. European Command, said that Moscow has been supplying Ukrainian separatists with anti-aircraft weaponry, and has held training sessions along the eastern Ukrainian border, teaching rebels how to operate the systems.

Direct supply of the Buk from Moscow to rebels would be a major escalation in the ongoing conflict. However, on June 29, Russia's official news agency, ITAR-TASS, reported that pro-Russian separatists took a Buk system under their control. The report does not specify whether or not this was theft from the Russian or Ukrainian militaries, only that the rebels had seized control of the weapons system. An AP report, dated yesterday, noted that, “A launcher similar to the Buk missile system was seen by Associated Press journalists near the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhne, which is held by pro-Russia rebels, earlier Thursday.”

Initial reports say that the plane was shot down at a cruise altitude of 32,800 feet. MANPADS, shoulder-mounted weapons systems, are incapable of reaching that altitude, suggesting that a ground-based system like Bukwas used. Buk can hit planes at altitudes up to 72,000 feet.

According to the Interfax news agency, leaders of the self-declared independent People’s Republic of Donetsk refuted allegations of involvement, claiming their weapons cannot shoot down planes flying above 10,000 feet. A member of the Republic’s security council declared the Ukrainian military responsible for the attack.

But at the same time as the Malaysian Airlines jetliner went down, Radio Free Europe reported, Ukrainian rebel leader Igor Strelkov announced on Russian social networking site VKontakte that a Ukrainian transport plane had been shot down: "In the vicinity of Torez, we just downed a plane, an AN-26. ... We have issued warnings not to fly in our airspace. We have video confirming. The bird fell on a waste heap. Residential areas were not hit. Civilians were not injured." Strelkov linked to two videos, reportedly of the downed airplane. After news broke that the Malaysian Airlines plane had gone down, he deleted the post about the AN-26.

This incident comes a day after Russia fired its first missiles into Ukraine and the White House laid a new round of sanctions on Russian authorities. President Barack Obama and President Vladimir Putin spoke on the phone earlier today about the sanctions; Reuters reported that Putin briefly mentioned the crash near the end of the phone call.

During a television interview immediately following the crash, Senator John McCain said, “I’m not concluding, but it has the earmarks of a mistaken identification of an aircraft they believed was Ukrainian.” He added, “If it is a result of either separatists or Russian actions mistakenly believing that this was a Ukrainian warplane, I think there’s going to be hell to pay and there should be."

Over the past few days, rebels have shot down two Ukrainian military planes flying at high altitudes. Immediately following the crash, Strelkov wrote on VKontakte: “We warned them not to fly in ‘our sky.’”

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Militias reported downed AN-26 in the east UkrainyPo they said, at approximately 17:30 local time, the plane was flying over the city in Torez Donetsk region.

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July 17 near the village of skirmishing over the city Torez Donetsk region was hit by a transport plane An-26 Ukrainian Air Force, said the militia. According to them, the plane crashed somewhere in the vicinity of the mine "Progress", away from residential areas.

According to one of the militias, at approximately 17:30 local time flew over the city of An-26. It hit by a rocket, there was an explosion and the plane went to the ground, leaving a black smoke. From the sky rained debris.

July 14 in the Luhansk region was also hit by a freighter Antonov An-26, and its crew was captured by militias. As the pilot of the interrogation, his task was to deliver the cargo of food and water for the Ukrainian military, stationed near Krasnodona.

On the same day, July 14, Acting Ukrainian Defense Minister Valeriy Geletey President Peter Poroshenko reported that the crew of the aircraft made ​​contact with the General Staff of the Armed Forces. Before the Ukrainian side reported a loss of connection with the transport aircraft AN-26. The crew did not respond to the controllers.

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lesson: do not fly over a freaking warzone

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Blame it on ICAO...

By Kyunghee Park Jul 18, 2014 1:13 PM GMT+0800

Malaysian Airline System Bhd. (MAS), whose plane carrying 298 passengers was shot down over eastern Ukraine, took a route avoided by Qantas (QAN) Airways Ltd. and several other carriers as separatist fights in the region intensified.

The attack, blamed on pro-Russia separatists by the Ukraine government, killed everyone on board the Amsterdam-Kuala Lumpur flight, prompting the airline to take alternative routes for its European flights. The disaster comes four months after Malaysian Flight 370 bound for Beijing disappeared without a trace.

Qantas hasn’t been using that route for a few months, said Andrew McGinnes, a spokesman for the Australian carrier, while Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd. (293) said it hasn’t been flying over the area for “quite some time.” Singapore Airlines Ltd. said it’s “no longer using Ukrainian airspace.”

“All airlines will be avoiding it like a plague,” Mohshin Aziz, an analyst at Malayan Banking Bhd. in Kuala Lumpur, said about the Ukrainian flight path. “Even today, Syria is in the middle of a war and commercial aircraft pass it every day -- there hasn’t been an incident.”

Ukraine’s state security service said it intercepted phone conversations among militants discussing the missile strike, which knocked Flight 17 from the sky about 30 kilometers (18 miles) from the Russian border. U.S. officials said the weapon probably was a Russian-made model used widely in Eastern Europe.


‘Declared Safe’

“The usual flight route was earlier declared safe by the International Civil Aviation Organisation,” Malaysian Air said in an e-mailed statement today. “International Air Transportation Association has stated that the airspace the aircraft was traversing was not subject to restrictions.”

Malaysian Air wasn’t probably the only airline flying that route, a popular path for flights between Europe and Asia, according to Mikael Robertsson, co-founder of Stockholm-based Flightradar24 AB.

Prior to the turmoil in the Ukraine, there were about 300 to 400 daily flights over the region, Robertsson said. In recent months, there have been about 100 a day, he said.

Malaysian Air shares dropped as much as 18 percent to 18.5 sen and traded at 20 sen as of 12:34 p.m. in Kuala Lumpur.

The Malaysian airline’s Boeing Co. 777 crashed late yesterday in the main battleground of Ukraine’s civil war, threatening to escalate tensions in Europe’s worst geopolitical crisis since the end of the Cold War. A European air-traffic control agency routed planes away from the region, which sits astride some of the busiest routes to and from Asia.


‘War Zone’

Among other Asia-Pacific carriers, Korean Air Lines Co. (003490) and Asiana Airlines Inc. (020560) avoided the area since March 3, the two South Korean companies said in e-mailed statements. Air New Zealand Ltd., PT Garuda Indonesia, All Nippon Airways Co. and Japan Airlines Co. said they aren’t flying over Ukraine. Philippine Airlines Inc. said it avoids “that war zone.”

Civil Aviation Administration of China has asked all Chinese carriers to avoid flying over Ukraine, according to a statement on its website.

“Our B777-300ER is much longer range, need not risk flying there for our London flight,” Philippine Air President Ramon Ang said in a mobile-phone text message.

Singapore Air (SIA) didn’t say if it was flying the route until yesterday’s crash. Its latest comment that it’s no longer traversing the airspace was a revision of an earlier statement that said its flights aren’t flying over that area.

Dutch Travelers

Malaysian Air’s Flight 17 carried 283 passengers and 15 crew members, with 154 Dutch travelers making up the biggest national group, according to a tally by Malaysia Airlines.

Other airlines that once flew through selected airspace corridors to avoid Ukraine’s civil war are adjusting routes or staying away from the country entirely. Deutsche Lufthansa AG (LHA) and KLM said they will avoid flying over eastern Ukraine, while Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) is staying away from the whole country.

U.S. carriers have voluntarily agreed not to operate in the airspace near the Russian-Ukraine border, the Federal Aviation Administration said in an e-mail. Italy’s aviation agency ENAC said its airlines should avoid flying over the area.

Air traffic control and airlines should have been more cautious of the area, said Brent Spencer of Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University.

“The fact that the airspace is not restricted doesn’t mean you don’t need to give extra consideration whether you want to fly to it or not,” said Spencer, who is director of Embry-Riddle’s air-traffic control program in Prescott, Arizona. “You might want to think twice about flying through an airspace where there’s somebody shooting missiles at anybody.”

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Blame it on ICAO...

Unless nga offcourse and plane, any agency responsible for declaring it safe to travel in that airspace must have some of the blame.

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Ayan, galit na AUS. Yari na Russia. Yung pro-russian ukranians, uubusin na kayo. Nag-iinit na kano at EU countries.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/24...raine/?cmp=ydn

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Such a big tragedy na naman. Condolence for those affected and hope that the ones responsible will be punished for what they have done
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