Malaysia Airlines Plane Disappears Over Ukraine [MOVED]

[uls]

kawawa MAS

2nd tragedy in just a few months

can they survive?

MAS has been losing money for years and now this

[NightRock]

In Pattaya (Thailand), there are a lot of Russian-looking dancers but when I asked them (in English) if they were russian, they proudly say "I am Ukrainian! ".

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Ukraine ang napuntahan ko na wala akong nakitang pangit na babae hehehehe.. lahat halos maganda. And yes napunta sila ng Thailand for tourist at na sideline as prosti, medyo mataas lang daw ang rate (ayon na narinig ko lang)

[CVT]

Ukraine ang napuntahan ko na wala akong nakitang pangit na babae hehehehe.. lahat halos maganda. And yes napunta sila ng Thailand for tourist at na sideline as prosti, medyo mataas lang daw ang rate (ayon na narinig ko lang)

"Well the Ukraine girls really knocked me out
They leave the West behind......."

[chrismarte]

We are shell Global Support Team..those guys are part of Shell Malaysia team

bro, mix ata kasi NL, ML at BN yung country code nila.

[SiRbossR]

Ako, ill just sit this one out rather than speculate.

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[fitdrive]

the best speculation is this. There Iis now a looming cold war between the conservatives and the capitalist world.

I have been observing this. when the former Pope issued this statement above how homo***uals are degenerates, this Pope has been completely under fire whether In his own turf in Europe as well as the West.

So they had to install Pope Francis who btw, na lagi laman ng balita sa social media. The problem with his new Pope is he is shaking the moral fiber of the true RomAn Catholic values. It was prophesied that Pope Francis is Petrus Romanus aka the last Pope or the anti-Pope.

I have been researching the culture of the Eastern Europe as well those near Russia and these people are highly religious and die hard Catholics. They can be compared to red necks or Rural American na conservatives din

There is now growing concern that gay policies are running the media, the global financial system and some liberal governments of the world . Anti-Semitism is also resurging in Europe.

World war 1 set the mood for apocalyptic World War 2. The German people who we're die hard Catholics were so oppressed by the outcome of the Versailles treaty and it was Hitler who concluded that the Jewish policies of usurpy, pautangan, making money work for money are the true evil of the world. The German people are dedicated workers.

Now, these ideologies are making a comeback in UKraine. So if it is True that Ukraine air traffic deliberately sent that plane filled with AIDs research people to the warzone, then mga masamang pangitain Ito. If the plane contains aids research, then maybe there are some group who would rather not find a cure for Aids for it is believed a homo disease. A scientific biological anomaly When you force 2 "swords" instead of one screw and one bolt as a more universal truth

Our moral values are now hanging in a thread once again, as was early 20th century when Mass media like radio and film are being used but never fully understood. Now, it's the internet. The internet gave voice To people who are expected to hide their true personality I. The closet.

Try to analyze your lives people, we are becoming too dependent on media nowadays, we have viral stories crying about being bullied, and stories that are private but somehow becoming reality TV. And stories weakening our soldiers like they should be taken care of etc . Hindi ba't puro pang boy abunda yan stories na yan. Suddenly. There's nothing more honorable to seek inspiration for in the news

The real / true men are losing their wives and children to mediocre values from mass media.






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[Syuryuken]

the best speculation is this. There Iis now a looming cold war between the conservatives and the capitalist world.

I have been observing this. when the former Pope issued this statement above how homo***uals are degenerates, this Pope has been completely under fire whether In his own turf in Europe as well as the West.

So they had to install Pope Francis who btw, na lagi laman ng balita sa social media. The problem with his new Pope is he is shaking the moral fiber of the true RomAn Catholic values. It was prophesied that Pope Francis is Petrus Romanus aka the last Pope or the anti-Pope.

I have been researching the culture of the Eastern Europe as well those near Russia and these people are highly religious and die hard Catholics. They can be compared to red necks or Rural American na conservatives din

There is now growing concern that gay policies are running the media, the global financial system and some liberal governments of the world . Anti-Semitism is also resurging in Europe.

World war 1 set the mood for apocalyptic World War 2. The German people who we're die hard Catholics were so oppressed by the outcome of the Versailles treaty and it was Hitler who concluded that the Jewish policies of usurpy, pautangan, making money work for money are the true evil of the world. The German people are dedicated workers.

Now, these ideologies are making a comeback in UKraine. So if it is True that Ukraine air traffic deliberately sent that plane filled with AIDs research people to the warzone, then mga masamang pangitain Ito. If the plane contains aids research, then maybe there are some group who would rather not find a cure for Aids for it is believed a homo disease. A scientific biological anomaly When you force 2 "swords" instead of one screw and one bolt as a more universal truth

Our moral values are now hanging in a thread once again, as was early 20th century when Mass media like radio and film are being used but never fully understood. Now, it's the internet. The internet gave voice To people who are expected to hide their true personality I. The closet.

Try to analyze your lives people, we are becoming too dependent on media nowadays, we have viral stories crying about being bullied, and stories that are private but somehow becoming reality TV. And stories weakening our soldiers like they should be taken care of etc . Hindi ba't puro pang boy abunda yan stories na yan. Suddenly. There's nothing more honorable to seek inspiration for in the news

The real / true men are losing their wives and children to mediocre values from mass media.






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nonsense..... as usual

[CVT]

the best speculation is this. There Iis now a looming cold war between the conservatives and the capitalist world.

I have been observing this. when the former Pope issued this statement above how homo***uals are degenerates, this Pope has been completely under fire whether In his own turf in Europe as well as the West.

So they had to install Pope Francis who btw, na lagi laman ng balita sa social media. The problem with his new Pope is he is shaking the moral fiber of the true RomAn Catholic values. It was prophesied that Pope Francis is Petrus Romanus aka the last Pope or the anti-Pope.

I have been researching the culture of the Eastern Europe as well those near Russia and these people are highly religious and die hard Catholics. They can be compared to red necks or Rural American na conservatives din

There is now growing concern that gay policies are running the media, the global financial system and some liberal governments of the world . Anti-Semitism is also resurging in Europe.

World war 1 set the mood for apocalyptic World War 2. The German people who we're die hard Catholics were so oppressed by the outcome of the Versailles treaty and it was Hitler who concluded that the Jewish policies of usurpy, pautangan, making money work for money are the true evil of the world. The German people are dedicated workers.

Now, these ideologies are making a comeback in UKraine. So if it is True that Ukraine air traffic deliberately sent that plane filled with AIDs research people to the warzone, then mga masamang pangitain Ito. If the plane contains aids research, then maybe there are some group who would rather not find a cure for Aids for it is believed a homo disease. A scientific biological anomaly When you force 2 "swords" instead of one screw and one bolt as a more universal truth

Our moral values are now hanging in a thread once again, as was early 20th century when Mass media like radio and film are being used but never fully understood. Now, it's the internet. The internet gave voice To people who are expected to hide their true personality I. The closet.

Try to analyze your lives people, we are becoming too dependent on media nowadays, we have viral stories crying about being bullied, and stories that are private but somehow becoming reality TV. And stories weakening our soldiers like they should be taken care of etc . Hindi ba't puro pang boy abunda yan stories na yan. Suddenly. There's nothing more honorable to seek inspiration for in the news

The real / true men are losing their wives and children to mediocre values from mass media.






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JFletcher,- is that you?....


“Familiarity breeds awe”
23.7K:debate:

[zoomzoom]

Ano hinihithit ng conspiracy theorist na yan?

[Ry_Tower]

How true.

Malaysia Airlines symbolize nations' hopes or reflect shame | World, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

[Monseratto]

Na banned na naman si OB/Fitdrive... di kasi nainom yung kanyang common sense meds, hehehe. Won't be the last we hear from him though...

[170kphlang]

dapat lang iban yan everytime. trolling lang naman at wala naidudulot na maganda dito sa forums yun. wish that he'd get a life.

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[leonleon]

Bwahahaha. Banned again? Ilang beses na ba na banned yan? Anyone keeping count?

[shadow]

Bakit na ban si ob ulit?


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#retzing

[leonleon]

Dahil naka-off yung common sense???? ;)

[Monseratto]

Whole families loss in a click.

Malaysia Airlines MH17 crash: 20 families gone in one shot
PUBLISHED ON JUL 21, 2014 9:35 AM 309 679 0 0

PETALING JAYA (THE STAR/ASIA NEWS NETWORK) - The passenger manifest of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 tells a grim tale. More than 20 families were wiped out when the jetliner was shot down in Ukraine.

Two families of six were from the Netherlands and Malaysia while there were a number of families of five, four and three that perished.

Many of those who died were children, of which at least 20 were below the age of 12.

A number of teenagers also perished along with couples who were returning from a holiday or embarking on one.

Fifteen-year-old Jinte Wals had been so excited about her upcoming holiday in Malaysia that she tweeted about it an hour before her flight left Amsterdam.

She died along with her cycling enthusiast father Jeroen, mother Nicole, and siblings Brett, 17, Amèl, 12, and nine-year-old Solenn.

"Over uurtje in t vliegtuig naar Maleisië ! (In an hour, I will be in the air to Malaysia!)," she posted on Thursday, on what would become her last Twitter message.

The Wals were from the small town of Neerkant in the Netherlands.

Neighbours living across from the family told Dutch newspaper Algemeen Dagblad that they could not believe that the family of six has been killed.

"It is awful. Never again shall we see Jeroen bring out the bicycle for his daughter," Nel and Ton Winkelmolen told the daily.

Also killed were Malaysian Tambi Jiee, who was returning home with his wife Ariza Ghazalee, 47, and four children - Mohd Afif, 19, Mohd Afzal, 17, Marsha Azmeena, 15, and Mohd Afruz, 13 - after three years in Kazakhstan.

Families of five who were killed included Dutch Johannes van den Hende, his Malaysian wife Shaliza Dewa and their children Piers, 15, Marnix, 12 and Margaux, 8. They were returning to their home in Melbourne after a holiday.

Lawyer John Allen, his Dutch wife Sandra Martens and sons Christopher, 16, Julian, 14 and Ian, 8, were reportedly heading to Indonesia for a holiday.

The holiday ended tragically in the sunflower fields of Ukraine's Grabovo.

Many young families were also wiped out in the tragedy, including Dutch Paul Goes who worked in Shah Alam, his Malaysian wife Shuba Jaya and daughter Kaela, who would have turned two soon.

Emile van Muijlwijk who worked as a logistics manager in Singapore died along with his Indonesian wife Vickiline Kardia and young daughter Adinda.

Johnny Paulissen, his wife Yuli Hastini and children Martin, 5, and Sri, 3, were also killed as well as Oscar Kotte, his wife Miranda and their six-year-old son Remco.

Also dead were the three Maslin children - Mo, 12, Evie, 10 and Otis, 8, who were returning to Perth from Amsterdam with their grandfather Nicoll Norris.

The Netherlands' Thuis In het Nieuws reported that seven people from two families in the southern Dutch town of Rosmalen died in the crash. The families were close friends.

Leon Wels and his wife Conny (Cornelia) were reportedly on board with their 10-year-old son Sem while Remco Trugg and his wife Yvonne were with their daughters Tess, 10, and Liv, 7.

- See more at: Malaysia Airlines MH17 crash: 20 families gone in one shot

[chua_riwap]

Sa taiwan meron din bumagsak. Trans air naman. Sama ng panahon dahilan.

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[kitchielover02]

This just in, another plane crash. What is happening?! :|

"Air Algerie flight carrying 116 people
disappears over
Africa; Algerian
official claims it
crashed"

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1878317

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[safeorigin]

Some of you might be wondering why the pro-russian rebels are fighting against Kiev.

Face to face with the Russian-backed rebels in Eastern Ukraine | News.com.au

Here's why(*warning: very graphic images)

exhibit A*: https://twitter.com/vikakaliningrad/...893568/photo/1
exhibit B*: https://twitter.com/Nicolaj_Gericke/...562048/photo/1
exhibit C: Russians claim Ukraine town hit with banned white phosphorus fire starter bombs | Mail Online

not many know that the Ukrainians are firing artillery shells/air strikes for about a month now. It's not surprising why you don't hear about it often enough in the news but hear more about the MH17 accident.

analysis:

Merriam Webster:

“ethnic cleansing - n - the practice of removing or killing people who belong to an ethnic group that is different from the ruling group in a country or region”

“genocide - n- the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political or cultural group”

Wikipedia:

Ethnic cleansing vs. genocide: The crimes committed during an ethnic cleansing are similar to those of genocide, but while genocide includes an intent at complete or partial destruction of the target group, ethnic cleansing may involve murder only to the point of mobilizing the target group out of the territory. Hence there may be varied degrees of mass murder in an ethnic cleansing, often subsiding when the target group appears to be leaving the desired territory, while during genocide the mass murder is ubiquitous and constant throughout the process, continuing even while the target group tries to flee.

Ethnic cleansing is not to be confused with genocide; however, academic discourse considers both as existing in a spectrum of assaults on nations or religio-ethnic groups. Ethnic cleansing is similar to forced deportation or population transfer whereas genocide is the intentional murder of part or all of a particular ethnic, religious, or national group. Some academics consider genocide as a subset of "murderous ethnic cleansing." Thus, these concepts are different, but related; "literally and figuratively, ethnic cleansing bleeds into genocide, as mass murder is committed in order to rid the land of a people."

Robert Parry in “Itching for Genocide” does an excellent job relating the realpolitik that happened and is happening in Ukraine.

... Though “blame-Putin” has been at the center of Official Washington’s false narrative on Ukraine from the beginning, the reality was always that the West – the United States and the European Union – provoked this crisis, not Putin and Russia.

The crisis emanated from the EU’s reckless offer of an economic association agreement to Ukraine that President Yanukovych weighed but ultimately rejected because it came with a draconian International Monetary Fund austerity package attached. The Russians offered a more generous $15 billion loan and also provided energy subsidies for Ukrainians.

Yanukovych’s decision to opt for what he considered a better deal for Ukraine was well within his rights as the elected president, but his choice touched off furious demonstrations led by western Ukrainians and openly encouraged by senior U.S. officials ... including Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland.

When Yanukovych refused to reverse his decision, the protests turned violent with well-trained neo-Nazi militias, organized in groups of one-hundred fighters each, moving to the fore to battle police. In the violence, both protesters and police were killed, though the typical treatment in the New York Times and much of the U.S. press was to simply report falsely that all the victims were protesters. [See Consortiumnews.com’s “The Danger of False Narrative.”]

On Feb. 21, seeking to stanch the violence, Yanukovych signed an agreement guaranteed by three European countries – Germany, France and Poland – to surrender many of his powers and accept early elections so he could be voted out of office. The elections would have tested popular opinion on the EU’s package while maintaining the Ukrainian constitutional structure.

Yanukovych also agreed to pull back the police, a move that opened the way for the neo-Nazi militias to seize government buildings and force pro-Yanukovych officials to run for their lives. With these storm troopers patrolling government buildings, the remnants of the shaken parliament cobbled together a new regime led by Assistant Secretary Nuland’s personal choice, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who became prime minister.

The US and Kiev governments for propaganda purposes cravenly call what is happening now in Ukraine, the ongoing slaughtering of ethnic Russian Eastern and Southern Ukrainians, as an “anti-terrorist operation”. These attacks cause death, displacement, mass suffering of a particular “ethnic minority” These Southern and Eastern ethnic Russian Ukrainians had reason to protest the new neo-Nazi spearheaded illegitimate coup. They were doomed to be seriously marginalized, disenfranchised and systematically persecuted.

The launched ethnic cleansing operations of the Kiev government are useful to the US and NATO countries in the name of a deadly international gamesmanship -- to provoke Russia into appearing “aggressive” in defense of the ethnic Russians in Ukraine. This would be transparent to all if an amoral and corporate-controlled media hadn’t whipped up such excessive anti-Putin sentiment in their propagandizing the administration's despicable "false narrative" back here in the US.

Parry points out that the demonization of the Eastern and Southern Russian Ukrainians by many extremists in Ukraine is so intense that they refer to members of this targeted ethnic Russian population as insects and animals.

Last May when billionarie oligarch Petro Poroshenko was elected president of the junta government, many of the same neo-Nazi extremists stayed in power. Parry discloses:

The neo-Nazis got a share of ministries – with their top commander Andriy Parubiy made chief of Ukraine’s national security – to reward them for their service to the coup and in recognition that these militias might otherwise turn on the fragile new regime and seize power for themselves. Reflecting Western Ukraine’s hostility toward Eastern Ukraine, the parliament took actions offensive to ethnic Russians including a vote to ban Russian as an official language throughout the country (though that plan was later rescinded).

Parry addresses the profound neo-Nazi ideology and hate speech infecting Ukrainian nationalist thinking:

The presence of Nazi ideology and the evolution of the Ukraine civil war into an ethnic conflict was noted by New York University and Princeton Professor Stephen F. Cohen in an article for The Nation magazine. As Cohen explained:

“Independent Western scholars have documented the fascist origins, contemporary ideology and declarative symbols of Svoboda and its fellow-traveling Right Sector. Both movements glorify Ukraine’s murderous Nazi collaborators in World War II as inspirational ancestors. Both, to quote Svoboda’s leader Oleh Tyahnybok, call for an ethnically pure nation purged of the ‘Moscow-Jewish mafia’ and ‘other scum,’ including homo***uals, feminists and political leftists.

“And both hailed the Odessa massacre. According to the website of Right Sector leader Dmytro Yarosh, it was ‘another bright day in our national history.’ A Svoboda parliamentary deputy added, ‘Bravo, Odessa…. Let the Devils burn in hell.’

“If more evidence is needed, in December 2012, the European Parliament decried Svoboda’s ‘racist, anti-Semitic and xenophobic views [that] go against the EU’s fundamental values and principles.’ In 2013, the World Jewish Congress denounced Svoboda as ‘neo-Nazi.’ Still worse, observers agree that Right Sector is even more extremist. …

“In December 2012, a Svoboda parliamentary leader anathematized the Ukrainian-born American actress Mila Kunis as ‘a dirty kike.’ Since 2013, pro-Kiev mobs and militias have routinely denigrated ethnic Russians as insects (‘Colorado beetles,’ whose colors resemble a sacred Russia ornament).

“More recently, the US-picked prime minister, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, referred to resisters in the Southeast as ‘subhumans.’ His defense minister proposed putting them in ‘filtration camps,’ pending deportation, and raising fears of ethnic cleansing.

“Yulia Tymoshenko — a former prime minister, titular head of Yatsenyuk’s party and runner-up in the May presidential election — was overheard wishing she could ‘exterminate them all [Ukrainian Russians] with atomic weapons.’ ‘Sterilization’ is among the less apocalyptic official musings on the pursuit of a purified Ukraine.”

I think of the slaughtering and mass prosecutions of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, the continuing persecutions of Palestinians in Israel. The behaviors of these governments certainly coincide with the definition above of ethnic cleansing at least.

Egypt and Israel and now Ukraine are robustly supported with money and armaments by the US. Their defiance of international and moral law inspires no serious nor effective objections from our own so-called democracy not to mention other western countries. Clearly fascistic thinking and policies are on the rise in the west, especially our own ends-justifies-the-means administration, Congress, military and security entities along with profits-over-people corporatist ruling class elite.

The US is encouraging and enabling the Kiev regime to “crush the ethnic Russian resistance in Eastern Ukraine” which will result -- has already begun to result - in mass civilian deaths, in earnest “ethnic cleansing” and the possibility, Parry emphasizes, of GENOCIDE.

Ukraine: US-Enabled/Encouraged Ethnic Cleansing/Genocide! - libbyliberalnyc - Open Salon

[Yatta]

Some of you might be wondering why the pro-russian rebels are fighting against Kiev.

Face to face with the Russian-backed rebels in Eastern Ukraine | News.com.au

Here's why(*warning: very graphic images)

exhibit A*: https://twitter.com/vikakaliningrad/...893568/photo/1
exhibit B*: https://twitter.com/Nicolaj_Gericke/...562048/photo/1
exhibit C: Russians claim Ukraine town hit with banned white phosphorus fire starter bombs | Mail Online

not many know that the Ukrainians are firing artillery shells/air strikes for about a month now. It's not surprising why you don't hear about it often enough in the news but hear more about the MH17 accident.

analysis:

Ukraine: US-Enabled/Encouraged Ethnic Cleansing/Genocide! - libbyliberalnyc - Open Salon

I think not many also know that the original ethnic inhabitants of Ukraine and the Crimea like the Cossacks and Tatars were deported to other ares like Chechnya during the late Imperial Russian and early Soviet times. In their place ethnic Russians were brought in. The practice was prevalent in every republic under Russian and Soviet rule and was meant to solidify ethnic Russian supremacy. The displaced people until now are not allowed to go back to their homeland. Putin wants to recreate the Russian Empire/USSR/Greater Russia.