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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey177
    Everyone read the last line again: "...for the inspiration and emulation of this generation and generations still unborn." Now what kind of example do we want our children and grandchildren to follow from former President Marcos?

    As far as I'm concerned, not everything that is legal is moral. Likewise, forgiveness must be tempered with justice, and I personally would not find it just to bury Marcos in the resting place of our nation's heroes, but that's just me. Many other Filipinos have short memories.
    right! what they did was to interpret the law part by part and not the whole point of the law which includes the one you mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missZ
    hhmn..yeah you got me thinking.thanks for your input but i checked out the site for facts to back my sh*t up and this is what i found:

    The Libingan ng mga Bayani (LNMB) was established by law to serve as the national pantheon "to perpetuate the memory of all presidents of the Philippines, national heroes and patriots for the inspiration and emulation of this generation and generations still unborn."

    Under the rules, the remains of the following deceased persons are qualified and therefore authorized to be interred in the Libingan ng mga Bayan (LNMB)i:

    Medal of valor awardees
    Presidents or commanders-in-chief of AFP
    Secretaries of national defense
    Chiefs of staff, AFP
    General flag officers of the AFP
    Active and retired military personnel of the AFP
    Veterans of Philippine Revolution 1896, WW1, WW2 and recognized guerillas
    Government dignitaries, statesmen, national artists, and other deceased persons whose interment or reinterment has been approved by the commander-in-chief, Congress or Secretary of National Defense.
    Former presidents, secretaries of defense, CSAFP, generals, flag officers, dignitaries, statesmen, national artists, widows of former presidents, secretaries of national defense and chief of staff are authorized to be interred at the LNMB.
    so dapat pala lahat ng president, secretary of national defense, general flag officers, and so on eh doon pinalibing. eh bakit yung mga presidents na nilibing sa manila north cemetary di nilipat dyan kung ganon naman pala...if the bible says a tooth for a tooth, an eye for an eye...will you take it literally? anyway, bible is not a law but making a national hero is not about interpreting literally the meaning of the law.

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    di ba me issue na baka, and i emphasize the word baka, peke ung war records ni makoy?

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    sabi na nga ba e rights nila yun e... So kahit anong sabihin ng taong bayan e walang silbi kasi yan ang karapatan nila. kahit sabihin pa nating puro kurakot at walang nagawang maganda ang presidente. ang payo ko lang e live your life to the fullest kung ano gusto nilang gawin sa mga patay sila ng bahala ang dapat problemahin ng mga opisyal ng gubyerno e ang pag unlad ng pilipinas.

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    i think Marcos should be considered as an exception dun sa law na yung mga presidente dun ilibing sa LNMB. joker is right. this decision by gma will further divide the nation. golez is right too. gma is the most divisive president we have ever had (dividing the former presidents, the businessmen, the church, the legislative, even her family .). and now this latest divisive decision.

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    I say just bury him where he wants and let's get on with improving our lives! There's a lot of more important problems our country's facing, and where to bury Marcos is the least of our problems, I'm so tired of all this bickering, impeach this impeach that, cha cha here, cha cha there, it's time we get our acts together and try to salvage what is left of our country before it completely goes down the toilet into the sewers. He's been dead for 16 years already, bury the guy! and while we're at it, maybe we can bury some asshole politicians alive, with him.

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    a tribute of a fake president to a fake war hero.

    may pera rin kayang kapalit ito??

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    Gumaganti lang si GMA kay Cory. Kasi si Cory pinagreresign si GMA.

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    I hope I dont get attacked for voicing out my opinion because this what I think having threads like this is all about.I will not run around saying things that I cannot back up and I don't see anything wrong with putting my .02 cents over other people's cents.I speak the truth and if some people do not agree with me so be it.I already put in my .02 cents and I rest my case because by not doing so things will just escalate and it will not look very pretty.so if you get my point ,that's good and if you don't okay pa rin .We are entitled to express our own opinion and are also entitled not to listen.kanya kanya lang yan but just like what I said earlier..I still respect your opinion (s).
    Last edited by tinky; July 28th, 2005 at 04:14 PM.

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    pati si Fabian Ver dun na din ilibing, dating chief of staff e. dami pinapatay nun.

    some people just do not know why things are held sacred. yes there may be a law, but the spirit of that law must be considered when applying that law. the LnMB was established to honor people who deserve honor. Marcos, in all his self-professed glory and heroism, does not deserve a place of honor amongst such true heroes. he was a dictator that dishonored his people for 20 long years. that is why the germans do not honor Hitler, or the italians Mussolini, or Stalin of the russians. they were past leaders of those countries, no one deny that. but they were dictators who led their people to ruin and shame. mr. Marcos is no less different from any of them.

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    whew! finally it's up and running..mods please feel free to delete this one .nag double post lang po so I just edited this one.
    Last edited by tinky; July 28th, 2005 at 04:28 PM.

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    i think he should be buried there once and for all. You can hate someone only for so long.

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    yeah easy to say that, tell that to the victims of martial law where their loved ones were imprisoned and killed. im sure if u wer 1 of the victims u'd hav a very different opinion. personally i respect the law BUT we cannot just simply follow the law blindly. IMO lng po

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    .. to keep him in a refrigerated state for 16 years is crazy IMO .. if it were me .. i'd would want to get buried where people would accept me .. so if i was marcos .. i'd rather be buried in my hometown .. of course .. this would be the least of my problems .. coz i'd be dead then .. ..

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    pakiramdam ko may kapalit yan galing kay imelda

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    I am in a total shock....

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    parang wax na ata un katawan iya sa sobrang gamot..

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    wag nyo ng problemahin yan mas maraming problema ang pinas kaysa sa libing libing na yan. dapat sa mga pinoy gaya nga ng sabi ni the late delia atayatayan e "magsumikap ka ng hindi ka naghihirap" yun ang dapat gawin ng mga pinoy para iahon sa kahirapan ang bansa natin hindi yung about sa burial ng president. kung nakalagay sa law e may exemption about dun sa paglibing then exempt si marcos o jalosjos. pero kung wala e. ilibing na ang taong yun dun. kung ayaw nyo syang ilibing dun then wag kayong pumunta sa libingan ng mga bayani. our country has more bigger problems than that so this issue should stop and just follow what the law states. kung tutol kayo sa law then tumakbo kayong congressman o senador and try to ammend the law of the nation. kung hindi nyo kaya e live your life na lang and wag ng problemahin pa ito. ito ay opinion ko lang naman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwapito69
    wag nyo ng problemahin yan mas maraming problema ang pinas kaysa sa libing libing na yan. dapat sa mga pinoy gaya nga ng sabi ni the late delia atayatayan e "magsumikap ka ng hindi ka naghihirap" yun ang dapat gawin ng mga pinoy para iahon sa kahirapan ang bansa natin hindi yung about sa burial ng president. kung nakalagay sa law e may exemption about dun sa paglibing then exempt si marcos o jalosjos. pero kung wala e. ilibing na ang taong yun dun. kung ayaw nyo syang ilibing dun then wag kayong pumunta sa libingan ng mga bayani. our country has more bigger problems than that so this issue should stop and just follow what the law states. kung tutol kayo sa law then tumakbo kayong congressman o senador and try to ammend the law of the nation. kung hindi nyo kaya e live your life na lang and wag ng problemahin pa ito. ito ay opinion ko lang naman.


    lahat kasi ng pinoy may kanya-kanyang version ng law hehehe. the same way as lahat ng pinoy may kanya-kanyang alter ego version kung paano i-lead ang bansa. that's why someof us dont respect the law nor the president.

    tulad ng sabi ni mike117

    As far as I'm concerned, not everything that is legal is moral.

    I myself got confused with this, ano ba talaga ang mas higher power,
    legal or moral, na dapat sundin under the law?

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    pilipino kasi kami kaya kami nakikialam dyan. ngayon kung foreigner kami ayun wala kami pakialam. o kaya isang pinoy na walang paki kung ano mangyari, yan ok lang. pero hindi e, pinanganak kaming pakialamero sa mga nangyayari sa paligid namin, tropang uzisero. right namin yun na tutulan ang sa pananaw namin ay mali, kahit na sangdamukal pa na laws ang meron, pag mali, yan ay mali. gaya ng martial law, batas yun nasa constitution. pero kung mali ang pag gamit, gaya ng ginawa ni marcos, yun ay dapat tutulan. kung tumahimik lang tayo nuon e di sana si favian ver o si imelda marcos ang presidente natin ngayon. e hindi, nag-ingay kami at nag-rally sa edsa nung 1986. trip namin e, bakit ba? at hangang ngayon magiingay pa din kami pag may nakikita kaming kamalian. trip namin yun e. kung gusto mo sumali e di welcome. pag ayaw e di ok lang din.

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