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  1. Join Date
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    Hi tsikoteers,

    I need an honest opinion from you guys... I have a chance to migrate to the U.S. but since the economic situation and unemployment rate are not good I'm having a second thought kung tutuloy ako or hindi. Hindi naman sa nagmamayabang ako but I am making a net income of 70K a month (deducted na po ang income tax).. If you are in my shoes are you going to migrate to the U.S.? My wife works in the bank and we have 3 kids (in grade schoool). Would you think it is advisable to just stay here and live a simple life. Any information that you can share will be appreciated. Hindi kami kasi makapag decide. Salamat po.

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    halos parehas tayo. isa lang anak ko.
    lahat na ata ng lahi ko nasa tate na.
    mga peyrents ko sala sa init sala sa lamig. "bilisan niyo ng pumunta rito!"
    nung isang minsan naman
    "pagbutihan niyo nalang diyan. bagsak na ekonomiya dito wala kayong maasahang trabaho.. blah-blah-blah".
    ewan.

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    Tough choice, bro.

    We made the same one some 15 years ago, and then another, some 10 years ago. (In both cases, work then was waiting for us there)...

    Never regretted our decision.

    Pray bro. for your decision.

    Good luck!

    18.8K:dance1:

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    Ang laki ng sweldo mo sir TS. Anyway, i hope our tsikoters from tate could shed light on this and give their insights.

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    wala namang makakapagsabi kung kelan babangon ang ekonomya ng US, o kung kelan babagsak ang ekonomya ng Pilipinas, in that matter.

    pero kung ako ikaw, dito muna ako sa Pilipinas.... wala kang aabutan ngayon sa US.
    siguro you can think about that again after 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    wala namang makakapagsabi kung kelan babangon ang ekonomya ng US, o kung kelan babagsak ang ekonomya ng Pilipinas, in that matter.

    pero kung ako ikaw, dito muna ako sa Pilipinas.... wala kang aabutan ngayon sa US.
    siguro you can think about that again after 5 years.
    This might be true but if you have no skills and no papers. But if you have skills, esp. In IT, then there are numerous opportunities in the US. Heck, forget about working...start a new business in the US if you can.

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    kung sweldo lang ang pag uusapan madami mga mas malaki ang sweldo nag migrate parin sa States, Canada, etc. yung iba may business pa

    it's no longer about money. it's coz they wanna leave the 3rd world. the incompetence of 3rd world govt

    they wanna be taken care of by competent govt. they wanna be in a country where human life has higher value

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kung sweldo lang ang pag uusapan madami mga mas malaki ang sweldo nag migrate parin sa States, Canada, etc. yung iba may business pa

    it's no longer about money. it's coz they wanna leave the 3rd world. the incompetence of 3rd world govt

    they wanna be taken care of by competent govt. they wanna be in a country where human life has higher value
    i agree with this.


    anyway btt, i lived in the states for almost 10 years. i can say is if you got used to the life here in the philippines then it will be pretty hard to adopt there. it's not as fun there in the states, most of my friends are americans since mga pinoy don sama ng ugali mga chismoso/chismosa, inggitero at backstabber kaya stayed away from them. life out there is very different, people are very busy and focused on their jobs, it can be fun but you have to have good friends, know where to hang out and be involve in outdoor activities. honestly if you're making good money here in the philippines i'd say stay here since finding a good job in the states right now is pretty hard. anyway since i have a family here in the philippines and a great paying job, ok na ako sa pa bakasyon bakasyon lang don but if i was single i'd rather live in the states or some where else. ewan ko kung single pa ako na isip ko mag pa lipat lipat ako ng country stay in one place for half a year then move again to a different one. mabilis kasi ako mag sawa.

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    just put in your mind that you may be the boss here.. but there you are just an ordinary worker... your skills will be your advantage... and when i say skill.. you should be "skilled" as in a lathe operator...

    i have an officemate deciding if she will go to canada, she is used to typical office work (encode, receive process type), i said to her that in canada you will not do the same, you might end up as a crew or cashier or a helper and ask her "are you ready for that kind of job?" if not, then stay and focus on your career here

    when you decide to go there, then go there and never look back

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    opportunities or not, generally, its not a good time.
    i have relatives in the states who are in IT who were either laid off or had job cuts.
    sa akin, contentment pa din yan.... if you are contented in your life here, then you stay.
    if you are not contented, then roll the dice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kung sweldo lang ang pag uusapan madami mga mas malaki ang sweldo nag migrate parin sa States, Canada, etc. yung iba may business pa

    it's no longer about money. it's coz they wanna leave the 3rd world. the incompetence of 3rd world govt

    they wanna be taken care of by competent govt. they wanna be in a country where human life has higher value
    sino ba naman ang ayaw sa competent government at pagpapahalaga sa buhay... pero kung yun lang habol mo eh maka sarili naman yun...

    sabi nga ni JFK ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country

    yung mga kapitbahay natin ganyan din ang thinking serve their country first... look at japan and korea and china.

    sabi ng misis ko pag nag ka giyera daw sa south korea.. yung mga anyo anyo dito obligado bumalik dun para lumaban

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    sino ba naman ang ayaw sa competent government at pagpapahalaga sa buhay... pero kung yun lang habol mo eh maka sarili naman yun...

    sabi nga ni JFK ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country

    yung mga kapitbahay natin ganyan din ang thinking serve their country first... look at japan and korea and china.

    sabi ng misis ko pag nag ka giyera daw sa south korea.. yung mga anyo anyo dito obligado bumalik dun para lumaban
    like pag nagkaroon ka ng chest pain may dadating na paramedics bago ka mamatay

    stuff like that

    a govt that provides services that really work

    tulad ng sabi ni vinj:
    What makes me think about migrating to the US or Canada is the quality of basic services, security, and health care that are provided to citizens.

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    Life in the Philippines is not that simple. Struggle everyday. 70k in the Philippines is nothing. This should not be considered in your equation.

    Try Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmacavanza View Post
    Life in the Philippines is not that simple. Struggle everyday. 70k in the Philippines is nothing. This should not be considered in your equation.

    Try Australia.
    Hundreds upon thousands of people here in the Philippines would take that 70k without batting an eyelash, so consider that in a good financial position. 70k in the US in nothing, that is for sure.

    However, it is worth considering migrating in Australia. Very peaceful life. Lots of outdoor activities, One of the highest standard of living in the world. And isolated from the current problems that the world has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kung sweldo lang ang pag uusapan madami mga mas malaki ang sweldo nag migrate parin sa States, Canada, etc. yung iba may business pa

    it's no longer about money. it's coz they wanna leave the 3rd world. the incompetence of 3rd world govt

    they wanna be taken care of by competent govt. they wanna be in a country where human life has higher value
    This is so true! I know a lot of people with very comfortable lives in the PH that left the country. Recently, I noticed even more FB friends migrating to the West (US/Canada).

    What surprises me, even showbiz people are leaving the PH. They have fame and money here but still chose to migrate to a country where they will be nobodies and second class citizens (they aren't white)

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    What surprises me, even showbiz people are leaving the PH. They have fame and money here but still chose to migrate to a country where they will be nobodies and second class citizens (they aren't white)
    an ex-classmate once told me na masaya din to live a normal life.

    they can go to a mall, eat cheap/street food, and be a normal person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    This is so true! I know a lot of people with very comfortable lives in the PH that left the country. Recently, I noticed even more FB friends migrating to the West (US/Canada).

    What surprises me, even showbiz people are leaving the PH. They have fame and money here but still chose to migrate to a country where they will be nobodies and second class citizens (they aren't white)
    If you do a short research on racially motivated hate crimes on Filipinos, you'll find out most of the perpetrators aren't white. Who they are? Do the research.

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    May friend din ako sa ganyan situation dati, nag migrate at may sure employer, pero pag kalipas ng Isang taon, nagkaron ng massive lay off ng worker yung company, nadamay sya. Di sya makabalik dito ngayon kasi wala na yung dati nya position. Buti may kamaganak na tutulong sa kanya don.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenon View Post
    Hi tsikoteers,

    I need an honest opinion from you guys... I have a chance to migrate to the U.S. but since the economic situation and unemployment rate are not good I'm having a second thought kung tutuloy ako or hindi. Hindi naman sa nagmamayabang ako but I am making a net income of 70K a month (deducted na po ang income tax).. If you are in my shoes are you going to migrate to the U.S.? My wife works in the bank and we have 3 kids (in grade schoool). Would you think it is advisable to just stay here and live a simple life. Any information that you can share will be appreciated. Hindi kami kasi makapag decide. Salamat po.
    What line of work are you in? My parents faced the same decision back in 1982 and they decided to immigrate to the US. My dad was already Vice President of an insurance company here in Manila and his first job in the US was a bookkeeper.

    Looking back, it was the best decision they made for their kids, 3 of us (15,14,9!yrs old).

    PM me if you want more advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenon View Post
    Hi tsikoteers,

    I need an honest opinion from you guys... I have a chance to migrate to the U.S. but since the economic situation and unemployment rate are not good I'm having a second thought kung tutuloy ako or hindi. Hindi naman sa nagmamayabang ako but I am making a net income of 70K a month (deducted na po ang income tax).. If you are in my shoes are you going to migrate to the U.S.? My wife works in the bank and we have 3 kids (in grade schoool). Would you think it is advisable to just stay here and live a simple life. Any information that you can share will be appreciated. Hindi kami kasi makapag decide. Salamat po.

    do you have any relatives there? have you lived outside the country for any extended period of time before? what line of work are you in. and, lastly, how old are you?

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