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    what does it mean when he says "net profit"? does that 3% refer to margin (revenue - cost of sales), PTI (pretax income), or net income?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M54 Powered
    what does it mean when he says "net profit"? does that 3% refer to margin (revenue - cost of sales), PTI (pretax income), or net income?
    AFAIK... that's net income already

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    my take on this. business is business. somehow, the stakeholders want profit, no matter what.

    now, if there is a loss, management did not do its job.
    i am sure some tsikoteers here who have their own business think this way too. that simple.

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    the largest oil company in the world, ExxonMobil, also had it's best-EVER earnings quarter in 1Q 2006 after a similarly record breaking 2005. the 12 largest US oil companies are all reporting earnings windfalls as well (hooray for my mutual funds! )

    but i read an interesting article in Business Week - according to BW the 5-year average profit for oil and gas companies is only slightly above the average for all industries...bumabawi lang ba sila? more likely, as a couple of people have already said - the cost of exploration and extraction just to find a few million barrels is staggering...especially considering the fact that you strike black gold only a few times if you drill in a hundred places.

    another interesting fact - in 2005, the average profit for oil/gas companies was only seventh highest among all industries. the highest?

    #1 - pharmaceutical/biotech
    #2 - banks
    #3 - diversified financial services
    #4 - software
    #5 - telecom
    #6 - food and beverage


    these are US company figures. it would be interesting if somebody posted the figures for philippine companies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by M54 Powered
    the largest oil company in the world, ExxonMobil, also had it's best-EVER earnings quarter in 1Q 2006 after a similarly record breaking 2005. the 12 largest US oil companies are all reporting earnings windfalls as well (hooray for my mutual funds! )

    but i read an interesting article in Business Week - according to BW the 5-year average profit for oil and gas companies is only slightly above the average for all industries...bumabawi lang ba sila? more likely, as a couple of people have already said - the cost of exploration and extraction just to find a few million barrels is staggering...especially considering the fact that you strike black gold only a few times if you drill in a hundred places.

    another interesting fact - in 2005, the average profit for oil/gas companies was only seventh highest among all industries. the highest?

    #1 - pharmaceutical/biotech
    #2 - banks
    #3 - diversified financial services
    #4 - software
    #5 - telecom
    #6 - food and beverage


    these are US company figures. it would be interesting if somebody posted the figures for philippine companies...
    i just think of it this way *m54_powered, businesses whether pharmaceutical, globe, smart, software, food require energy. hence, we can safely say that power companies have their "cut" on the gross sales of each company. each service/ product produced require energy (ewan ko na lang handicraft na ginagawa sa kubo lang with meralco/napocor submeter ). and san pa ba dependent power companies? syempre oil din.

    simple as that lang naman. today, countries would go to war first bec. of oil, secondary na lang ang food and other basics.

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    WTF!!! audit nga natin nakaw nyo sa bayan? ang bobobo nyo mga tongressman kayo. PWE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isuzoom
    WTF!!! audit nga natin nakaw nyo sa bayan? ang bobobo nyo mga tongressman kayo. PWE!!!
    +1

    MISMO

    magician kasi yugn mga politicians natin, magaling sa MISDIRECTION.
    para di makita yung kurakot nila, gagawa ng issue to divert the poeples attention (and subsequent ire)

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    you'll be surprised kapag nalaman nyo kung magkano lang ang cost ng isang clusivol na nabibili nyo ng 7 pesos ata per piece...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chieffy
    you'll be surprised kapag nalaman nyo kung magkano lang ang cost ng isang clusivol na nabibili nyo ng 7 pesos ata per piece...
    and u will also be surprised how much ang cost ng mga branded na pain reliever like alaxan, advil, biogesic, etc

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    Yup, they should audit the likes of Lito Lapid and his son for the millions in sand quarrying fees that they pocketed at the expense of the people in Laguna. That type of activity really penalizes ordinary citizens who could have received better services if the money collected in such activities went into the right places.
    Also, the low priority that local companies seemingly place in social/civic responsibility cannot be considered out of place especially when the local institutions that should be prioritizing those responsiblities like the government, the military and the Church do such a poor job at it.

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    Which is why I NEVER use multivitamins and rarely use pain relievers.

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    Hehe, lahat naman ng branded eh... nasa perception nalang ng buyer yan.. Do you really think a pair of Florsheims really cost that much to make? or a bottle of Coca Cola really costs that much more than Pop to produce? Or those beloved iPods really cost that much to make?

    Pricing is based on demand... kung walang paki ang tao to pay more for a brand's image, then whose fault it is that a particular item is priced that much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by theveed
    Hehe, lahat naman ng branded eh... nasa perception nalang ng buyer yan.. Do you really think a pair of Florsheims really cost that much to make? or a bottle of Coca Cola really costs that much more than Pop to produce? Or those beloved iPods really cost that much to make?

    Pricing is based on demand... kung walang paki ang tao to pay more for a brand's image, then whose fault it is that a particular item is priced that much...
    Yes, indeed. That's business. A seller will price his product or service as high as the market can bear. No argument there.

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    BTW, that 3% should be taken in context... at a 0.50p increase, which is, say, 3% of the TOTAL price of gas, that 3% affects the overall margin (MAYBE between 5-25%) very very little. As for record profits, guess what? Thanks to higher than ever demand, sales of gas are through the roof... thus, record profits. The oil supply isn't growing as fast as demand, thus, rising retail prices. Econ101.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    ok lang na kumita sila ng malaki basta ayusin nila ang serbisyo nila. ang problema karamihan gusto tubong lugaw kaya nagiging kawawa tayong mga consumer.

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    Econ101
    Apparently too many people in this planet hasn't taken this course or flunked it during HS and College.

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    btw, if our company had a net income margin of only 3% we would all be fired :lol:

    re: biotech....their business model is quite similar, actually. they spend billions of dollars in "exploration" - research to develop new drugs - and the overwhelming majority of their R&D ends up in failure. so whenever they get a winner that is actually approved by drug administrations globally, they have to charge ridiculous margins to make back their losses (and also take in a huge profit).

    whether this is moral behavior or not, it's what the company's officers think they have to do to survive and/or win in the market. but it really looks bad sometimes when you have people dying of AIDS and not being able to afford a million dollar experimental cure....

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    Negosyo ito hindi CHARITY.....

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    Yaman na siguro ni Charity hehe.

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