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    Is the catholic church feeding us the wrong stuff?

    1. OF ALL THE HUMAN TRADITIONS taught and practiced by the Roman Catholic Church, which are contrary to the Bible, the most ancient are the prayers for the dead and the sign of the Cross. Both began 300 years after Christ............................................ ....................................310

    2. Wax Candles introduced in church about............................................. ..............................320

    3. Veneration of angels and dead saints about............................................. ......................375

    4. The Mass, as a daily celebration, adopted........................................... ..............................394

    5. The worship of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and the use of the term, "Mother of God", as applied to her, originated in the Council of Ephesus in................................................ ..............431

    6. Priests began to dress differently from the laity in................................................ .................500

    7. The doctrine of Purgatory was first established by Gregory the Great about the year.......593

    8. The Latin language, as the language of prayer and worship in churches, was also imposed
    by Pope Gregory I. 600 years after Christ............................................ ...................................600

    The Word of God forbids praying and teaching in an unknown tongue ( I Cor.14:9).
    9. The Bible teaches that we pray to God alone. In the primitive church never were there
    prayers directed to Mary, or to dead saints. This practice began in the Roman Church about............................................. .................................................. .......................................600




    Complete list can be found here:
    http://www.baptistpillar.com/bd0293.htm

    No offense to catholics pero the link above tells you the difference between the truth and lies. Ako di ako nagsisisi kahit di ako nagsisimba nung bata pa ko.

    Kayo guys?
    Last edited by Lucius; July 25th, 2007 at 10:17 PM.

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    oooohhh... religion thread.

    so what church do you go to now, Kapitan?
    or agnostic / atheist ka na?

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    #3
    Nope. Christian. Alala ko lang bigla diba inallow ni ratzinger ung pag-mass in latin. Kaya walang himala pag ang gumawa ng himala eh ung mga santo santo na kahoy lang hahaha

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    komplikadong topic.basta kanya kanyang belief at faith lang yan.in the first place ala pa namang nakapagsabi na nakakapagligtas ang religion sa wrath of God,Allah,Yahweh, Mohammed etc etc etc..at the end of the day, lahat ng tao mamamatay..for the mean time respect other's religion nalang.
    Last edited by VtEC; July 25th, 2007 at 10:41 PM.

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    #5
    + kay Vtec

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    #6
    I get your point, pero base yang mga yan sa bible di naman imbento lang solid hard facts ika nga

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    here we go again :popcorn:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapitan View Post
    Is the catholic church feeding us the wrong stuff?

    1. OF ALL THE HUMAN TRADITIONS taught and practiced by the Roman Catholic Church, which are contrary to the Bible, the most ancient are the prayers for the dead and the sign of the Cross. Both began 300 years after Christ............................................ ....................................310

    2. Wax Candles introduced in church about............................................. ..............................320

    3. Veneration of angels and dead saints about............................................. ......................375

    4. The Mass, as a daily celebration, adopted........................................... ..............................394

    5. The worship of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and the use of the term, "Mother of God", as applied to her, originated in the Council of Ephesus in................................................ ..............431

    6. Priests began to dress differently from the laity in................................................ .................500

    7. The doctrine of Purgatory was first established by Gregory the Great about the year.......593

    8. The Latin language, as the language of prayer and worship in churches, was also imposed
    by Pope Gregory I. 600 years after Christ............................................ ...................................600

    The Word of God forbids praying and teaching in an unknown tongue ( I Cor.14:9).
    9. The Bible teaches that we pray to God alone. In the primitive church never were there
    prayers directed to Mary, or to dead saints. This practice began in the Roman Church about............................................. .................................................. .......................................600




    Complete list can be found here:
    http://www.baptistpillar.com/bd0293.htm

    No offense to catholics pero the link above tells you the difference between the truth and lies. Ako di ako nagsisisi kahit di ako nagsisimba nung bata pa ko.

    Kayo guys?
    My answer (in a general way, please exclude 5 and 9)

    Fundamentalists commonly attack the Church by citing those examples but they fail to recognize that the Church that they're attacking is the only church that can trace it's roots back to the apostles time. Since it can be traced back to the apostle's time it has the authority to make decisions as describe at Mt 16:19.

    Holy traditions of the church are permitted and done by the early Christians (1 Corinthians 11:2).

    Other things to ponder

    - Who compiled the bible?
    - With the guidance of the H.S, who are the people responsible in compiling whose books are inspired or not?
    - Before the bible there were oral tradition and holy tradition, wala pong nakasulat sa papel nun o saan mang parchment.
    - Is your denomination in full communion with the works of Thomas (yes Thomas the Apostle!) in India? To those who don't know, Thomas travelled to India to spread the good news there. His works are in full communion with the Catholic Church.


    My answer to 5 and 9.

    The Catholic Church doesn't worship saints, mama mary. Catholics worship only the true God.
    Last edited by froshie1; July 26th, 2007 at 02:28 AM. Reason: high light and wrong grammar hahaha.

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    makapag stock-up na rin :eat: hehehe.

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    the simplest explanation would be the wordly Church being mostly mortal, na-infiltrate din ng mga demons. instead of opposing the Church by disproving the beliefs, ine-exaggerate ng mga "demon" priests ang mga paniniwala noon araw beyond human comprehension para nga naman lalo ka lituhin. syempre pag confused na, morality will be affected.

    that's how the devil works.

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