vow of poverty is hypocrisy
in a church in the Legarda Ave area in Manila, a priest drives a Corolla AE89. kinda amusing part is its plate number, it ends in 666. :D
Minsan nga hindi talaga sa pari yung mga sasakyan. Yung lola ni commander may 'alagang' pari (na madalas mong makikita sa TV at nagtatatalon!). At pinapagamit ni lola ang Pajero Field Master niya kay father ng libre and with driver kahit saan niya gusto pumunta. Gusto na nga atang bumili ng bagong sasakyan ni lola dahil nalaspag na ang Pajero. Nabigyan na din si father ng retreat house at panay ang mga big time party para sa kanya.
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Hindi naman beat-up old truck iyon. Hehehe. They bought that Nissan Power pick-up (yung maroon) as brand-new nung nasa LSQC pa ko. Parati ko ngang tinitignan iyan sa parking dati. Bagong-bago kasi.
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oips ano yan ha. wag lagyan ng issue yan kesho vow of poverty ek-ek. zip-zip.
Usually, ang mga parishoners nag spo-spoil sa pari. Mga kotseng nakikita nyo minsan eh PAHIRAM ng mga parishoners para maka go-around ang mga pari nila. Money for the cars (kung sakaling brand new) eh galing sa parish. Some priest i know eh galing sa mayayaman na pamilya kaya usually (kung may gamit na sasakyan) eh galing sa mga magulang nila na pinahihiram para may transpo lang ang mga pari.
pag parish priest hindi required ang vow of poverty. pwede silang magkaroon mg ari-arian.
mga paring hesuwita, svd, dominicano, na kasama sa religious order-- yan ang may vow of poverty.
punahin mo na lang ang mga sect na nag-dedemand ng tithe. yan ang mga tunay na k*pal.
I think hindi vow of poverty yung tinutukoy ninyo kundi "VOW OF CELIBACY". Yung mga kakilala kong mga pari mayayaman ang pamilya kaya yun binibigyan sila ng family nila ng magagarang gamit. Personally ok lang na magkaroon sila ng magagarang cars basta ba hindi yung galing sa kaban ng parokya.
tama ang vow of poverty eh directed sa mga religious order.
OT: sabaysabay pala tayong lahat nag post hehehe aliw lang![]()
You're right Diocesan priests take oaths of celibacy and obedience. Religious priests belong to a religious order, such as the Jesuits, Dominicans, or Franciscans. In addition to the vows taken by diocesan priests, religious priests take a vow of poverty.
Last edited by OTO; April 11th, 2005 at 03:02 PM.
teka just wondered... nde ba lahat ng pari belonging to an order? teka pano kung nasa order ang pari tapos parish priest sha? is that possible? hehehe does the vow of poverty applies to him then?
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Last edited by ts1n1ta; April 11th, 2005 at 06:15 PM.
If I recall correctly these large monetary/property donations to the Roman Catholic Church was an an issue of contention that led to Protestantism.
not about the large property...Originally Posted by OTO
but by the RC Church's teachings (back then) that you can buy your way into heaven (through pardons).
27. They preach man who say that so soon as the penny jingles into the money-box, the soul flies out [of purgatory].
28. It is certain that when the penny jingles into the money-box, gain and avarice can be increased, but the result of the intercession of the Church is in the power of God alone.
42. Christians are to be taught that the pope does not intend the buying of pardons to be compared in any way to works of mercy.
43. Christians are to be taught that he who gives to the poor or lends to the needy does a better work than buying pardons;
Just curious... ano kaya sasakyan ni Cardinal Sin? How ironic that "Sin" is his last name...
I think they had to rename a PS2 game to Cardinal Syn because of Jaime. Pati pa naman yung me terminal ailment tinitira pa.Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
He probably gets driven in a car donated to the Roman Catholic Church.
A white Toyota Crown. Katulad nung mga ginamit sa WYD '95.Originally Posted by ILuvDetailing
IMHO, malakas talaga ang pasok ng donations sa mga pari. And a lot of them are not even intended for the church. Sadyang donations for the particular priest. Parang living allowance ba.
Yung pari sa last retreat na pinuntahan ko, niregaluhan ng parishoner ng Nokia 9500 Communicator.
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the dioceses of here in the cordilleras have a fleet of 4X4s. hiluxes, a vitara and a gen1 pajero. a practical means of getting to their far-flung parishes. the rest are old school beetles.
magpapari kaya ako, para me ride? kaso, celibacy naman. hmmm...ride or ***? decisions, decisions...
I think the pope does not have a Ferrari in his garage.
He drove a Ferrari in 1988.
He was given a F1 scale model last year
The president of Ferrari announced that he will build a special edition F1 car for the pope for him to auction off and use the money for charity.
What they do have are Lamborghini Town Life for the security of the whole Vatican.
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I think the priests needed a reliable, high capacity and very secure vehicle, that's why some of them use Suv's and Auv's. I think we should put our focus more on our politicians and public servants dahil pera natin mga iyon.
kaya nga sometimes i'd rather give to charities than to the church. recently i saw a fundraising activity for the completion of a church. it's total cost would exceed 60 million pesos! i know a church is supposed to be the "House of God" and we must give Him what He deserves, but sometimes you'd think that it's just too much and that they should practice what they preach. And by the way, that new church/parish is just about a kilometer away from another one. Anyway, i believe that it's better to be spiritual than religious.
Last edited by coiter; April 11th, 2005 at 04:15 PM.
vow of poverty ba dahilan bakit nyo sila pinupuna? bakit luxury na ba ang pajero? ang altis? 2004 lancer? ordinary vehicles lang yan. ang luxury eh yung M-class, yung Lexus, BMW, Rolls Royce...
there are a lot of priests who come from very rich families mind you. some of their families have haciendas and big businesses. it is a tradition after all in some provinces to consider it prestige and honor to have a priest in the family. so how come if these vehicles were given by their families, what is wrong with a little luxury when they were so used to much much more when they were growing up as ordinary men like you?
dami nyo napupuna kala mo naman nagbibigay sa simbahan ng malaki pero barya-barya lang naman kung offertory!