Impending Water Crisis??

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[kagalingan]

Si kags nag post regarding sa ayala na di maganda pamamalakad. Lols.

Still not thinking this is election related though. Ano sila, sabihin ng mga politiko, let there be water, tapos dadaloy na ang mga tubig sa gripo. Parang walang sense. Pwede pa siguro divert attention.

Bulok parking ng glorietta, trinoma basta ayala mallls makipot, maliligaw at hihiluhin ka.

Tapos last year puro balita about sa banks of the philippien islands nahahacked yung automated teller machine, credit card, online.

Oh di ba nakakabwisit yan pero mas ibang level ito sa tubig. Sobrang may problema na talaga sila.

Dapat ang ayala wag mag negosyo na involve ang masa. Just stay sa pasosy business. Mas forte nila ang paprojek-projek lang!!!

[_Cathy_]

An interesting read from Boo Chanco on today's Star.

EXPLANATION HOLDS NO WATER
Demand and Supply (Boo Chanco) Philippine Star



There is something Manila Water is not telling us. This could have all been avoided or better managed.

My offer still stands

Back in the 80s ba QC never had a water issue? I have a friend from the south, laki ng bahay pero walang tubig at kung meron man ang hina ng pressure [emoji14] Almost everyone had deep well or overhead tank. I hope Metro Manila never has to experience that again.

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[baludoy]

^ that's how it was in the south until maynilad became a water concessionaire.

Actually siguro mga 10 or so yrs pa lang na solusyonan yan. My own village even had its own deep well to serve its residents. Mura pa singil ng tubig noon [emoji16]



do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

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Laking queezon city ako.

Walang problem tubig sa banawe, quezon avenue, araneta avenue, new manila, scout area, timog, tomas morato, aurora blvd.

Ang alam ko lang problema tubig ayon sa classmate ko yung sa white plains. Pero tingin ko kasi pag bandang katipunan na eh hindi na tunay na quezon city. Sandali pala yung farview parang alam ko nagkaproblem sa tubig din yan Tingin ko sa farview parang paranaque yan ng quezon city.

Dapat kasi ihiwalay na yung novaliches, farview, tandang sora, katipunan. Hindi ko mafeel na queozn city mga yan. Sa commonwealth pag umabot na ng ever gotesco eh hindi na dapat qc yan.

Masyado kasi malaki qc. Hatiiin na lang.

[baludoy]

things that make you go hmmm....

Twitter

so justification ba ito from sec dominguez for the chinese loan package? ka-ching!

[baludoy]

Laking queezon city ako.

Walang problem tubig sa banawe, quezon avenue, araneta avenue, new manila, scout area, timog, tomas morato, aurora blvd.

Ang alam ko lang problema tubig ayon sa classmate ko yung sa white plains. Pero tingin ko kasi pag bandang katipunan na eh hindi na tunay na quezon city. Sandali pala yung farview parang alam ko nagkaproblem sa tubig din yan Tingin ko sa farview parang paranaque yan ng quezon city.

Dapat kasi ihiwalay na yung novaliches, farview, tandang sora, katipunan. Hindi ko mafeel na queozn city mga yan. Sa commonwealth pag umabot na ng ever gotesco eh hindi na dapat qc yan.

Masyado kasi malaki qc. Hatiiin na lang.

halos lumaki ako sa loyola heights pero wala naman naging problema sa tubig sa experience ko doon.

[Wh1stl3r]

things that make you go hmmm....

Twitter

so justification ba ito from sec dominguez for the chinese loan package? ka-ching!

Ang swabe ng pasok ni sec. 😂

[baludoy]

Ang swabe ng pasok ni sec. [emoji23]

You can see through the script eh [emoji58]

do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

[remzam]

You can see through the script eh [emoji58]

do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

At ang kawawa ay di ang nasa palasyo at mga alipores nito kundi ang pobreng Pilipino.

Isla sa dagat pinamigay na. Construction workers at POGO staff kanila na rin. Pati ba utilities? Probinsya na nga ata tayo...

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[Little Missy]

You can see through the script eh [emoji58]

do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

But manila water is private. Anong link between the DU30 admin and this Ayala company for this narrative to make sense? [emoji848]

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[chronicle]

Turo turo

MWSS criticizes Manila Water for unfinished Cardona treatment plant | News | GMA News Online

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[Wh1stl3r]

You can see through the script eh [emoji58]

do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

They should hire better scriptwriters bro. Alam agad ang ending eh 😅

I'm just gonna leave this here as a refresher:

Integrated PPP vs Hybrid PPP: The case of Kaliwa Dam | BusinessWorld

Integrated PPP vs Hybrid PPP: The case of Kaliwa Dam
November 7, 2018 | 10:17 pm

Bienvenido S. Oplas, Jr.
My Cup Of Liberty
By Bienvenido S. Oplas, Jr.

Integrated PPP vs Hybrid PPP: The case of Kaliwa Dam

Integrated Public-Private Partnership (PPP) means the construction then operation and maintenance (O&M) phases will be done by a single entity while Hybrid PPP means the construction is done by one entity, the O&M to be done by another entity. Funding of the former therefore will be fully shouldered by that entity while in Hybrid PPP, construction cost to be funded via ODA/foreign loan or Philippine government budget appropriation, O&M by a local private firm.

So if one will build a dam near Metro Manila, a Hybrid PPP route means taxpayers from Northern and Southern Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao will contribute to pay for that loan. In an integrated PPP, only the users and consumers of the water from that dam will pay, the users-pay principle works.

The Metropolitan Manila Waterworks System (MWSS) is pushing an important project, the proposed New Centennial Water Source Project (NCWSP). It will involve the construction of a dam at the Kaliwa River (Laiban Dam), and a smaller dam (Kaliwa Dam) downstream to maximize the water supply, give additional 600 million liters per day (MLD) to augment the 4,000 MLD from Angat Dam in Bulacan which provides potable drinking water. This is important not only because of rising water demand but also for backup, in case the old Angat Dam will be damaged by a strong earthquake.

A Japanese firm, Global Utility Development Corp. (GUDC), signed an MOU with MWSS in 2008 for an Unsolicited Proposal on Kaliwa Intake Dam Project, BOT scheme. The proposal was completed in November 2009.

Somehow plans have changed, MWSS has amended bid contracts, the integrated PPP later became hybrid PPP. I checked old BusinessWorld reports on the subject, I found these four stories.

1. San Miguel mulls legal steps as Kaliwa dam project to be funded by China ODA (Oct. 3, 2017).

2. MWSS expects three Chinese firms to buy Kaliwa dam project bid documents (Feb. 16, 2018).

3. China-funded Kaliwa dam, LGU surveillance projects seen making progress (July 19, 2018).

4. Manila Water flags risk of water shortage between 2021 and 2023 (Aug. 30, 2018).

So the original proponent GUDC, then San Miguel, Datem, other bidders were somehow lost in the process when the Duterte administration came.

Then GUDC was given consideration because its proposal is about 30% cheaper than the China-funded one. From various sources, I gathered these info and summarized them in this table.

Integrated PPP vs Hybrid PPP

So there. Not only that the cost is higher under China contractors because of its oversized design and other factors, the rest of Philippine taxpayers will be involved in paying this higher cost. This is anomalous because the users-pay principle under integrated PPP works just fine.

The MWSS website said that “Project Cost P18.7 Billion, to be funded from ODA from China. Loan Signing scheduled on the state visit of China President Xi Jinping on Nov. 19-21, 2018.” Wow, formalizing the anomaly.

Incidentally, public vs. private funding of infrastructure and other social services will be among the topics that will be covered by the various panels in the Philippine Economic Society (PES) annual conference today, Nov. 8, then the Federation of ASEAN Economic Associations (FAEA) conference, Nov. 9-10, 2018. Both to be held at Novotel Hotel, Cubao, Quezon City.

Economists have elaborate explanations on the beauty of users-pay principle, far superior than all taxpayers-pay policy under the Hybrid PPP scheme. This administration is compromising current and future taxpayers with this suspicious scheme, Kaliwa dam and other projects.



Bienvenido S. Oplas, Jr. is the president of Minimal Government Thinkers

Just like to add that aside from the 30% overprice for the China ODA option, it comes with a significant interest rate vs the PPP model which has none.

[kisshmet]

^nak ng kamote

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[Yatta]

LOOK: Angat Dam water level normal

CNN - Philippines

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Ito ang water rates ng maynilad.

First 10cubic = 164.16 basic rate All-IN whether umabot ng 10cubc or kahti less magamit eh yan na babayaran. So wag na kayo mag-anak para makatipid.


Dito eh per cubic na charge.

11-20 = 20.03

21-40 = 38.09

41-60 = 50.03

61-80 = 58.45

81-100 = 61.13

101-150 = 63.93

151-200 = 66.78

Over 200 = 69.60

MEron pa miscellaneous chargers hindi ko na sinali nalito na ako percent percent pa. Next time ko na busisiin.


Ako simula minomonitor ko tubig eh billing naman eh around 500 to 800 so around 21 to 28 cubic meters. Apat to limang adults na yan na shower ang gamit umaga gabi. Washing machine pero hindi araw-araw. Yung tapon ng washing machine eh iistore naman yan sa tatlong drum na pang bakery so madami yun. Giinagamit yan panglinis ng garahe at flush outdoor comfort room.

Nagugulat ako sa ibang bahay ang taas billing nasa dalawang libo!!!! Madami ata bata.

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Aha! I knew it. May kinalaman din tong Orocan at iba pang plastic container manufacturers sa Manila water conspiracy.

[badkuk]

Pansin ko lang ha...the old man is very quiet about this

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Pansin ko lang ha...the old man is very quiet about this

Nasa narco list pa yun utak. Mabagal mag process na.


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