Thinking of migrating? or already a migrant?

[KoKoNAT]

Why?

Where?

Reading a few threads about Pinoys migrating to other countries, makes me wonder about what are your reasons for doing, or planning to do, so.

For those who have taken the plunge:

Would you recommend this life-changing event to anyone? Are you satisfied with with your decision for doing so? Will you go back to the Philippines? How do you feel when some members of our society label you as 'deserters'? Have you regretted your decision, or have your ever thought that you made a mistake?

So you've taken the plunge, are you going the whole nine yards by being a citizen of your chosen country? Why? Why not? What if your chosen country doesn't allow dual-citizenship? Would it affect your decision?

For those planning/working on it:

How do you feel about starting all over again? How about language and cultural differences in your target country? Having second thoughts?



I know I may be opening a can of worms with this topic but I believe that any topic, no matter how controversial, if discussed in a civil and respectful manner, is a measure of how truly open our society is.

So fire away...

edit: added some more questions...

[GlennSter]

my parents decided to migrate because of my younger sisters..education ang pinaka reason nila.

sobrang hirap mag umpisa..daming kailangan bayaran.start from scratch.swallow your pride.

dad ko businessman sa pinas.dito sa canada wala pa siyang trabaho. investor lang.

yung kasabay namin lawyer ng sikat na fastfood chain jan.dito server siya ng same company.

yung isa naman sucessful businessman din jan...dito clerical jobs ang ginagawa.

all have the same reason: education ng children nila.life of their children. i dont know..maybe i dont fully understand because im not yet a parent.

i know some of you sasabihin na "ok naman sa up...sa ateneo..sa lasalle..or wherever..."

but they have different perceptions talaga eh. lumalabas ngayon walang tama at mali. nung una nakikipag talo pa ako sa kanila...kasi ko personally i dont wanna go here.

but then...kaniya kaniya talagang opinion sa buhay eh.

[budakdak]

i've taken the plunge and never looked back since. kung ikukumpara ko talaga, ok na ok kesa diyan sa atin kasi somehow ramdam mo ang binayad mo sa tax. dito walang masyadong pila, accessible at malilinis ang toilet, maraming parks na puwede mong i-enjoy with your kids at may mga benefits din from gov kung wala kang trabaho.

[Rediesel]

Worth it, won't exchange it (green card) even for 10M PHP.

Deserter? So what who the f*ck cares, I just know at the end of the day I have a fatter bank account a nicer ride and a happier life. In the Phil can't even dream of buying a decent SUV, here, hell I can go to the local Lexus dealer and get one even tom.

Go back to the Phil? honestly speaking I don't even have the desire (for now) to visit, gastos lang, dahil mga tao sa Pinas feeling nila ikaw ang solusyon sa lahat ng problema nila financially. They think na dinadampot mo lang ang dolyar dito, dito sa america kung kakayod ka meron kang pera pero kung hindi gutom aabutin mo.

[Chip]

Deserter? So what who the f*ck cares, I just know at the end of the day I have a fatter bank account a nicer ride and a happier life. In the Phil can't even dream of buying a decent SUV, here, hell I can go to the local Lexus dealer and get one even tom.

+1

kaya gusto ko rin mag migrate hehe :D

[Imau]

Go back to the Phil? honestly speaking I don't even have the desire (for now) to visit, gastos lang, dahil mga tao sa Pinas feeling nila ikaw ang solusyon sa lahat ng problema nila financially. They think na dinadampot mo lang ang dolyar dito, dito sa america kung kakayod ka meron kang pera pero kung hindi gutom aabutin mo.

di naman lahat ng tao dito Sa Pinas ganun bro. baka mga kamag anak mo lang yun

[FrankDrebin]

Go back to the Phil? honestly speaking I don't even have the desire (for now) to visit, gastos lang, dahil mga tao sa Pinas feeling nila ikaw ang solusyon sa lahat ng problema nila financially. They think na dinadampot mo lang ang dolyar dito, dito sa america kung kakayod ka meron kang pera pero kung hindi gutom aabutin mo.

Kawawa naman talaga ang mga tao sa Pinas. Hindi naman kami uutang at walang balak umutang sa iyo eh. :D Hehehe.

ditto! I'm still hoping pa din na someday this country will be great again. I'm not earning that much but I'm currently happy with what I have right now. I still drive a beat up corolla and have a meager cash in the bank, but I don't care, as long as I'm happy and thankful for what I have. I guess it all boils down to contentment with what you have wherever you may be.

Nice one.

For me, if given a chance then why not.

[Jun aka Pekto]

I'm second-gen Fil-Am here. Even though I wasn't born in the Philippines, I have kin and friends over there. It's the land of my heritage and it'll always have a soft spot in my heart.

That said, my home is here. Uncle Sam owns me should I have to bear arms in defense of this country. Actually, I've already done my time (20 years) so it probably won't happen again. I was raised here. So no matter how much I love the Philippines, my ultimate loyalties lie here. If other Pinoys have a problem with that, then I'll just have to live with it to my dying days.

For those Pinoys on work visas, it's no problem regarding the Philippines as the motherland.

For those immigrating, think carefully about what you're doing. You're not just going abroad to make money. You're giving up a large part of your loyalty to the Philippines and transferring that loyalty to your adopted country. If you think otherwise, then you're immigrating for the wrong reasons.

For some, it'll be akin to burning bridges and not looking back. When I returned here, I thought I was done with the Philippines for good. But you know, I just can't turn my back on my friends or my kin over there. The best memories of my life was in the Philippines. The ties simply endure.....

[voltes_V]

Why? Sa akin lang for safety purposes not so much financially but to get away from threats like kidnappings and other bad things.

Where? Anywhere basta ideal living conditions. Although I grew up in the states being a navy brat, I find Canada a more simpler and easier place to live in and the people here are much more friendlier than anywhere else.
And did I mention the women here are so hot hot hot.

[n2knee]

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And did I mention the women here are so hot hot hot.

then you have not seen enough :lol:

Cali Pinays are probably one of the hottest!!!!!!!!

[theveed]

Technically, nagmigrate na ako dito hehe di ako taga rito eh... But if may dumapo na opportunity that's hard to pass, won't even think twice coz providing for my family comes first.

[Bandido]

Will be migrating soon, mixed emotions natutuwa at natatakot

[onie]

Will be migrating soon, mixed emotions natutuwa at natatakot

I felt the same way when i left. Excited to finally see places that i can only dream of but also a bit nervous if i'll be able to assimilate. I was homesick the first few months (left behind a gf). Then life started getting really busy.

[66bunny]

I'm still contemplating. I'm doing OK here so far but I always think I can do more outside the country.

It's a pinoy thing not to leave their comfort zone.

For example: A son gets married but he moves in to his wife's parent's house or vice versa. Para makatipid. Or ayaw lang talagang sumugal at gumastos kung magsasarili. It's more of a comfort thing than a challenge.

My kudos to all Pinoys who made it big in foreign lands.

I wish I'm like you. Driven and hardworking.

[oldblue]

last resort ko na talaga migration. I have relatives in L.A. area na pinondohan ng dad ko late 90's pa. ngaun kahit papano nakaka-settle na. noon, nagseselos kami sa kanila, kasi nga naman pambili lang ng kung anu-ano tinatawag pa dito eh sila na nga nasa US. ngaun, I understand why my dad did all of it, para may matakbuhan kami magkakapatid if ever lumalala na ng husto Pilipins. and from the looks it, ganun na nga talaga direction ...

but my heart says otherwise pa din. i want to play along with what's happening here in country. there are different kinds of pinoys. some have low risk tolerance and can only be productive if there is an atmosphere of order and hope and so they venture in other developed countries. am just training myself on the opposite of that just like other pinoys who have had success here. maybe it's the key ...

[Imau]

but my heart says otherwise pa din. i want to play along with what's happening here in country. there are different kinds of pinoys. some have low risk tolerance and can only be productive if there is an atmosphere of order and hope and so they venture in other developed countries. am just training myself on the opposite of that just like other pinoys who have had success here. maybe it's the key ...

ditto! I'm still hoping pa din na someday this country will be great again. I'm not earning that much but I'm currently happy with what I have right now. I still drive a beat up corolla and have a meager cash in the bank, but I don't care, as long as I'm happy and thankful for what I have. I guess it all boils down to contentment with what you have wherever you may be.

[oldblue]

ditto! I'm still hoping pa din na someday this country will be great again. I'm not earning that much but I'm currently happy with what I have right now. I still drive a beat up corolla and have a meager cash in the bank, but I don't care, as long as I'm happy and thankful for what I have. I guess it all boils down to contentment with what you have wherever you may be.

contentment. you said the right word bro. dito naman sa Pilipinas madali din naman mabuhay kung simple lang

for example:

* upgrade your cellphone in 3 year (not month!) intervals. KISS -> call & text & shoot.

* buy only a new car after 7 years or so, dont drive aggressively para hindi mag depreciate kagad parts and, avoid rush hour as possibly as you can.

* dont drink coffee worth > P100 everyday

* fine dining/leisure/travelling/alcohol intake must be done only in groups (tipid chip in technique)

* invest on home theatre cinema and internet access * home for entertainment. home library also recommended.

* keep body physically fit all of the time (like regular gym, badminton, etc). if fit no tendency to overeat, less food/beverage/sweets, less cravings/consumption/expenses. less consumption -> less trips to the doctor

* mind your own business. avoid things that dont really concern you or that takes away a lot of your productivity or leisure time - like political issues and the like. but remain vigilant. read, learn, accept but dont judge. the moment you judge then you're involved to very end, at least emotionally.

* and best of thing of all, avoid the bandwagon effect at all cost. (like trends, seasonal fashion, new technology, new cars, signature brands etc.)


if above followed religiously, imagine the savings!

[the_wildthing]

contentment. you said the right word bro. dito naman sa Pilipinas madali din naman mabuhay kung simple lang

for example:

* upgrade your cellphone in 3 year (not month!) intervals. KISS -> call & text & shoot.

* buy only a new car after 7 years or so, dont drive aggressively para hindi mag depreciate kagad parts and, avoid rush hour as possibly as you can.

* dont drink coffee worth > P100 everyday

* fine dining/leisure/travelling/alcohol intake must be done only in groups (tipid chip in technique)

* invest on home theatre cinema and internet access * home for entertainment. home library also recommended.

* keep body physically fit all of the time (like regular gym, badminton, etc). if fit no tendency to overeat, less food/beverage/sweets, less cravings/consumption/expenses. less consumption -> less trips to the doctor

* mind your own business. avoid things that dont really concern you or that takes away a lot of your productivity or leisure time - like political issues and the like. but remain vigilant. read, learn, accept but dont judge. the moment you judge then you're involved to very end, at least emotionally.

* and best of thing of all, avoid the bandwagon effect at all cost. (like trends, seasonal fashion, new technology, new cars, signature brands etc.)


if above followed religiously, imagine the savings!

Not everyone can afford this.

[FrankDrebin]

contentment. you said the right word bro. dito naman sa Pilipinas madali din naman mabuhay kung simple lang

for example:

* upgrade your cellphone in 3 year (not month!) intervals. KISS -> call & text & shoot.

A lot of peeps don't change their cellphone everyyear or every three years and yet they still make it big.

* buy only a new car after 7 years or so, dont drive aggressively para hindi mag depreciate kagad parts and, avoid rush hour as possibly as you can.

A lot of peeps don't change their cars everyyear or every seven years and yet they still make it big.

* dont drink coffee worth > P100 everyday

A lot of peeps don't drink a Php100 coffee everyday and yet they still make it big.

* fine dining/leisure/travelling/alcohol intake must be done only in groups (tipid chip in technique)

A lot of peeps don't dine/leisure/travel/drink alcohol yet they still make it big.

* invest on home theatre cinema and internet access * home for entertainment. home library also recommended.

A lot of peeps don't buy the latest home theater system and yet they still make it big.

* keep body physically fit all of the time (like regular gym, badminton, etc). if fit no tendency to overeat, less food/beverage/sweets, less cravings/consumption/expenses. less consumption -> less trips to the doctor

A lot of peeps don't regularly goes to the gym and yet they are healthy

* mind your own business. avoid things that dont really concern you or that takes away a lot of your productivity or leisure time - like political issues and the like. but remain vigilant. read, learn, accept but dont judge. the moment you judge then you're involved to very end, at least emotionally.

A lot of people does that.

* and best of thing of all, avoid the bandwagon effect at all cost. (like trends, seasonal fashion, new technology, new cars, signature brands etc.)

A lot of people really does that.

if above followed religiously, imagine the savings!

A lot of people really, really does that.




Simple Life, Simple Problem. ;)

[Imau]

for example:



A lot of peeps don't change their cellphone everyyear or every three years and yet they still make it big.



A lot of peeps don't change their cars everyyear or every seven years and yet they still make it big.



A lot of peeps don't drink a Php100 coffee everyday and yet they still make it big.



A lot of peeps don't dine/leisure/travel/drink alcohol yet they still make it big.



A lot of peeps don't buy the latest home theater system and yet they still make it big.



A lot of peeps don't regularly goes to the gym and yet they are healthy



A lot of people does that.



A lot of people really does that.



A lot of people really, really does that.




Simple Life, Simple Problem. ;)

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