Having a dual citizenship

[ozcity]

disadvantages and advantages?..aside from pwede ka pumunta/tumira anytime sa dalawang country..

[yebo]

tax. you need to pay tax to both countries of citizenship. the tax you pay in one is considered a deductible expense in the other, but you still end up paying more tax compared to having citizenship in only one country.

[ozcity]

hmm let say na may dual citizenship ako...PH-AU...pag bumili ako ng property sa pinas ibig mo sabihin mas malaki yung tax na ipapatong sa akin?

[yebo]

nope, property taxes are pretty much fixed whether you have single citizenship or dual. i was refering to income tax.

afaik, in australia, if you earn your income outside of australia AND are out of the country for more than 6 months of the fiscal year then you pay no tax for that year. in the philippines you do not pay any tax for income earned outside the philippines, you only pay the residence certificate if you are in the philippines for any length of time of the fiscal year. so dapat sana, kung income earned overseas lahat ng income mo then you don't pay tax, right? but let's say you spend your time between australia and pinas. you have a business in pinas but you spend more time in australia (more than 6 months). so you do not satisfy the 6 months out of the country requirement of the aussie govt then you need to pay tax to the govt for your income earned overseas (from the philippines). so you pay income tax in the philippines since you earned it in the philippines. then you also need to pay tax on that income to australia simply because you were in there more than 6 months, irregardless that you earned it in the philippines. the amount of tax you paid in the philippines becomes a deductible expense on the tax due to the aussie govt, but you will stay pay a minimum amount of tax. so in effect you pay taxes twice, one big, one small. gets? also the situation gets worse when you do earn income in australia. you pay taxes for that income in australia (syempre!), then you earn some income from your business in the philippines (you sold the property for example). then you also need to pay taxes for the income you earned in the philippines to the aussie govt. solution of course is spend more time in pinas so you are out of australia more than 6 months.

i may be wrong ha, my info comes from my aussie workmates here on the rig.

i think the situaton is worse for US citizens since they pay tax wherever they earn their income. so pag dual US-Phil citizen ka then wala ka kawala.

[oldblue]

disadvantages and advantages?..aside from pwede ka pumunta/tumira anytime sa dalawang country..

puwede ka din mag-asawa ng citizen ng bawat isa




joke lang po hehehe

[j_avonni]

Ozcity, you can check the FAQs:

http://www.gov.ph/faqs/dualcitizenship.asp




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[hyperthread]

complicated at magastos din pala.. so pwede naman siguro idrop yung isang citizenship di ba? Kung US-PH.. drop ko na lang PH for practicallity reasons..

[ozcity]

sir yebo thanks sa info...were planning just to get the AU citizenship..tapos apply kami ng dual....then uwi na kami ng pinas for good....just doin this para sa mga anak ko..para anytime..pwede sila bumalik ng aussie..

[ozcity]

eto tanong..pag dual citizen ka..dalawa ang passport mo diba?..pareho mo bang gagamitin ito pag lumabas ka ng bansa?

[ozcity]

complicated at magastos din pala.. so pwede naman siguro idrop yung isang citizenship di ba? Kung US-PH.. drop ko na lang PH for practicallity reasons..

hheeh mahal ko ang pinas..heheh para lang sa mga anak ko yung au-citizenship nila..

[k>b]

let say US saka PH citizen ka, pag nag stay ka sa PH for good mag babayad ka ba ng tax para sa pag stay mo? Kasi pag US citizen ka at gusto mo magtagal at humingi ng extension sa PH kailangan mo ata magbayad ng travel tax o kung ano man yun. TS, mahilig ka kay Satriani? nakanuod nako ng live nya pare. lupit.

[Helios]

Nice to have dual citizenship *Ozcity, you get the best of both worlds and you get more privileges than having only a single citizenship. I've been living here sa Pinas for a year now after applying for naturalisation. The staff from the Phil embassy in Sydney were more than happy (& swift) to process my papers including an electoral enrollment form of some type. The oath of allegiance was just a formality accdg to them It was a wait and see scenario for me eversince the law took effect about 5 years ago, but beside testing the phil political waters first, there were only 2 pinoys from melbourne i'm acquainted with who took the first plunge. I've tried to convince others (incl a couple of aussie blokes i used to work with) to consider the thought but they were either too planted on Oz soil or were still disappointed with our present system. I was glad to find out though that there were few mates who fancied the local culture and finally migrated here along with their families. Like them I consider both native and adopted countries my homes. I'm not sure if my savings could take a beating during the process of unit hunting as an investment in Aus and house hunting here in the Phil for retirement. Good thing my superannuation and tax refund provide much needed assistance. Beside the hassle of moving out to another country (shipping, notifying Auspost about address, billings etc) it's no worries climatizing unless humidity bothers you alot like the way it does to me. Things are improving here so far at a fast rate just as long as you keep a reality check once in a while then it's worth it. My parents and kin are dual holders as well but even if they intend to invest here they opted to stay with Uncle Sam for convenience's sake. A few years ago I have friends who were residents and vowed to raise their families back on Phil shores. After a year or so, one of them sold his property and belongings here and returned to Aus and took their pledge of citizenship in front of the Mayor for good. If you don't mind me asking why prefer our old educational system for your kid/s over Aus progressive approach, or is it an entirely economic issue alone?

[number001]

eto tanong..pag dual citizen ka..dalawa ang passport mo diba?..pareho mo bang gagamitin ito pag lumabas ka ng bansa?

Two passports. One for each country. You don't necessarily have to use the passports at the same time. I use my Philippines passport when I travel around Asia or other areas that does not require my other foreign passport. I use the other passport when I go to places like North America, Europe, etc... so that I don't have to inconvenience myself with getting individual visas for each country in those continents.

[ozcity]

yes we are going back home to PH after getting our aussie citizenship..para lang may fall-back..thanks sa mga nagreply..

[Helios]

hehehe. no more holding back, huh? good on decision mate, and God bless on your return home.

[number001]

Nice to have dual citizenship *Ozcity, you get the best of both worlds and you get more privileges than having only a single citizenship. I've been living here sa Pinas for a year now after applying for naturalisation. The staff from the Phil embassy in Sydney were more than happy (& swift) to process my papers including an electoral enrollment form of some type. The oath of allegiance was just a formality accdg to them It was a wait and see scenario for me eversince the law took effect about 5 years ago, but beside testing the phil political waters first, there were only 2 pinoys from melbourne i'm acquainted with who took the first plunge. I've tried to convince others (incl a couple of aussie blokes i used to work with) to consider the thought but they were either too planted on Oz soil or were still disappointed with our present system. I was glad to find out though that there were few mates who fancied the local culture and finally migrated here along with their families. Like them I consider both native and adopted countries my homes. I'm not sure if my savings could take a beating during the process of unit hunting as an investment in Aus and house hunting here in the Phil for retirement. Good thing my superannuation and tax refund provide much needed assistance. Beside the hassle of moving out to another country (shipping, notifying Auspost about address, billings etc) it's no worries climatizing unless humidity bothers you alot like the way it does to me. Things are improving here so far at a fast rate just as long as you keep a reality check once in a while then it's worth it. My parents and kin are dual holders as well but even if they intend to invest here they opted to stay with Uncle Sam for convenience's sake. A few years ago I have friends who were residents and vowed to raise their families back on Phil shores. After a year or so, one of them sold his property and belongings here and returned to Aus and took their pledge of citizenship in front of the Mayor for good. If you don't mind me asking why prefer our old educational system for your kid/s over Aus progressive approach, or is it an entirely economic issue alone?

a bit OT....

I actually think its better to raise children here compared to in "western" culture countries like US, Canada, Australia, etc..., imo. Education is still better abroad (in most cases), but the environment which plays a part in shaping a child's character, is a point of concern in western culture countries.

[empy]

what are the rules for dual citizenship?

for example, if someone was born of two Filipino parents, but was born, raised and lives in the US, is that person a dual citizen, or US only?

[k>b]

ang alam ko yun batang pinanganak sa US o kahit san US soil (US embassy, US territory, US base) ay US citizen. tapos pag abot nya ng certain age pwede ata siya mamili ng single or dual citizenship.

[oldblue]

noon ba araw pag pinanganak sa Clark o sa Subic, automatic US citizen?

[VtEC]

let say US saka PH citizen ka, pag nag stay ka sa PH for good mag babayad ka ba ng tax para sa pag stay mo? Kasi pag US citizen ka at gusto mo magtagal at humingi ng extension sa PH kailangan mo ata magbayad ng travel tax o kung ano man yun. TS, mahilig ka kay Satriani? nakanuod nako ng live nya pare. lupit.

You are right bro, pero pag dating sa for good na stay di me sure kung may babayaran kapa.