Guns: A Necessity in Today's Society?

[safeorigin]

So I'm guessing you have large hands...

Still waiting for these





I've been drooling over this pistol for over a year

[_Cathy_]

Those are huge guns to keep in a car.

What is the difference between a 9mm and 45 gun? Which is a better gun for a newbie owner?

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[lowslowbenz]

The size of the bullet.
9mm.

[safeorigin]

Those are huge guns to keep in a car.

What is the difference between a 9mm and 45 gun? Which is a better gun for a newbie owner?

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9mm(.39) is much easier to shoot. The .45 calibre has more knock down power. .40 is the middle of the road.

Typically, with a 9mm you would be able to carry more ammunition. If you want even less recoil, there's .380 and .22.

The thing is, knock down power is useless if you can't place your shots on the target. .380 and .22 in most cases are sufficient. In fact, they are much easier to conceal due to their size.

For the .380 and .22, you're looking at "James Bond handguns": Walther, Bersa, CZ 83...

[_Cathy_]

Which bullet goes through a person's body? And which one can really stop a person when shot?

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[safeorigin]

All of the above can incapacitate a person. Typically, you don't want the bullet to go through but instead transfer all of its energy on the target for the "knock down".

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[xwangbu]

glock top models:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddP7...e_gdata_player

medyo ok mga videos nya,

[yebo]

Drooling over an M3 Grease gun at sulit for 75k (ala Asyong Salonga/Band of Brothers)
Economized/simplified version ng Thompson SMG. Slower rate of fire.

Grease gun m3 caliber 45 submachine gun - For Sale - Philippines - 20074874

Add ka lang ng 10k brand new locally made m4 na yan.

[cpsolt]

oo nga noh... HPR na.

[frenchtower]

Eyeing this for a while
http://youtu.be/pnKd6iXHTQg

[safeorigin]

It only becomes an issue if you transfer the stock from right to left shoulder. It can, however, be solved by using a brass deflector which comes standard with Tavor. If you're using AUG or MSAR E4, you can install manticore arms brass deflector

[yebo]

May slightly OT question sa mga experts: Kaya po ba ng polymer 9mm pistols tulad niyang glock yung +p+ 115 grain 9mm JHP? Kelangan ko lang po assurance of some sort kasi may isang box pa ako nito at di ko pa na test dahil mga barkada ko sa range nag freak out pag ni loload ko ito sa polymer, natakot na din tuloy ako.

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All NATO (and almost all european made) pistols can load +p ammo since NATO standard pistol ammunition are +p.

US made pistols are not normally made for +p ammo unless specifically noted on the manual.

I would personally stay away from +p+ ammo. Better to have a functioning gun with ordinary ammo than to have high power ammo and a broken gun. As a rule +p+ ammo is only for pistols equiped with bull barrels. I would not use this type of ammo in a polymer gun.

[Flip]

Thanks sa replies mga sirs, now i know. may reason pala lumayo mga barkada ko at bumalik para pigilan talaga ako. hehe. sayang kala ko kasi the best na highest pressure tapos hollow point pa as defensive round, in theory kasi knock down talaga kahit di mapuruhan.

[safeorigin]

Thanks sa replies mga sirs, now i know. may reason pala lumayo mga barkada ko at bumalik para pigilan talaga ako. hehe. sayang kala ko kasi the best na highest pressure tapos hollow point pa as defensive round, in theory kasi knock down talaga kahit di mapuruhan.

Actually, with higher velocity, hollow points tend to expand less. On the other hand, you get much better penetration.

+p+ is usually reserved for armor piercing capability. You get more knockdown power as you increase bullet diameter and expansion.

[safeorigin]

foresterx, are you using Mepro Reflex Sight on your Tavor? ^^

[foresterx]

yes, that was the sight that came with it from the factory.

[Flip]

Actually, with higher velocity, hollow points tend to expand less. On the other hand, you get much better penetration.

+p+ is usually reserved for armor piercing capability. You get more knockdown power as you increase bullet diameter and expansion.

Oo nga sir eh... elephant ata iniisip kong tumbahin nang binili ko yung ammo...hehe... la lang na excite lang din siguro ako, kala ko ill get almost same effect and power of 45 and hi cap ng 9mm, BTW, eto specs ng ammo... velocity=405m/s Energy=611J...mas malakas pa or almost same lang ng mga popular 45 gold dot at hydrashock...but of course alam naman natin na partial considerations lang yung mga specs sa actual performance...

[frenchtower]

Nice quality collection foresterx!!! Safeorigin show us your arsenal :-)

[foresterx]

Wow you could form an army :shocked:

You're not based in Manila, are you?



Yeah aabangan ko yan kay foresterx.

*foresterx, do you intend to buy one? hehe

Im actually based in metro manila. All of those guns are legal in the philippines naman.

.50cal as much as i want one it's not legal for us civilians so i won't buy one. You could still buy one in the black market but where would you use it? Since you can't bring it at the range.

[_Cathy_]

Wow I'm speechless

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