Guns: A Necessity in Today's Society?

[foresterx]

yes at no. yes dahil pwede ka makasuhan (depende pa rin) ng owning a gun without license and no dahil napatay mo yung magnanakaw within your premises on the grounds of trespassing and self-defense.

actually cops will still detain you for questioning if you shoot a criminal under any circumstance, it's their SOP. kahit self defense inside or outside your house. yes it is legal to defend your life with your licensed gun but if you shoot someone the process is long and time consuming because of the messed up law in our country. so make sure you have a good lawyer on your speed dial.

^Oh no!

BTW madali ba magpa lisensiya ng baril?

may amnesty ba for unlicensed firearms owners?

right now there's amnesty till december but like i said on my previous post, it is a pain in the ass to get a license renewal, transfer or new. heck i still have one of my guns under processing and it's been processing since the end of the election gun ban. dati 2 weeks lang kuha na ngayon ilan months na wala pa din tapos kung ano ano pa ang hiningi tapos hihingi pa pang miryenda kung di mo bigyan pahirapan maki pag usap kung kani-kanino ka ituturo.

[xwangbu]

me wants a glock26 or a tcm22 from armscor.

[safeorigin]

It is a natural right to defend yourself and what's important to you. To deny yourself defense only makes you a victim. I don't advocate violence. In fact, responsible gun advocates are among the most peace loving people.

"It doesn't mean that I advocate violence, but at the same time, I am not against using violence in self-defense. I don't call it violence when it's self-defense, I call it intelligence."

- Malcolm X

“As we have seen, the first public expression of disenchantment with nonviolence arose around the question of “self-defense.” In a sense this is a false issue, for the right to defend one’s home and one’s person when attacked has been guaranteed through the ages by common law.”

- Martin Luther King

"Jesus said, 'But now whoever has a purse or a bag, must take it and whoever does not have a sword must sell his cloak and buy one.'"

- Luke 22:36

"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his house, his possessions are safe."

- Luke 11:21

"Without doubt one is allowed to resist against the unjust aggressor to one's life, one's goods or one's physical integrity; sometimes, even 'til the aggressor’s death.... In fact, this act is aimed at preserving one’s life or one’s goods and to make the aggressor powerless. Thus, it is a good act, which is the right of the victim."

- Thomas Aquinas

"But if someone has a gun and is trying to kill you ... it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun."

- Dalai Lama

[safeorigin]

But of course, when you support banning guns you end with these people...

"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead to the future!

- Adolf Hitler, 1935

"To conquer a nation, you must first disarm its citizens."

- Adolf Hitler

"All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party."

- Mao Tse Tung

"The measures adopted to restore public order are: First of all, the elimination of the so-called subversive elements .... They were elements of disorder and subversion. On the morrow of each conflict I gave the categorical order to confiscate the largest possible number of weapons of every sort and kind. This confiscation, which continues with the utmost energy, has given satisfactory results."

- Benito Mussolini

[CVT]

kahit wala sa bakuran mo basta may tangay na property mo pwede mo barilin.

di na ba talaga napapa-license ang m4/m16 type rifles? meron kasi nagbebenta ng m4 bushmaster sa akin last May gipit lang daw, almost new for 85k. e nasa 135k ang bago. e madaming contacts yun baka sakali meron ulit. o hangang m1/m2 carbine na lang talaga ang pwedeng pa-license?

Ikaw talaga bro.,- kailangan mo yata ng witness/es kung ganyan....

O, kakilala sa kapulisan..... o alam mo na.....

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[jick.cejoco]

the use of a deadly weapon is based on necessity, proportionality and used as a last resort. this is not the wild west. if it were a child taking someone's property, would shoot the kid? with the same subject property, if it were somebody who is not dressed and looks hard up in life, would you shoot him? if it was somebody whose family looks like they can afford a good lawyer, would you shoot him? this subject matter is very subjective if you think about it. but the need to discharge a firearm is a deadly force which might not be proportionate or just reaction to something you do not necessarily like. this is the distinction whether the person is ready and responsible to own a weapon.

[Manilablock]

the use of a deadly weapon is based on necessity, proportionality and used as a last resort. this is not the wild west. if it were a child taking someone's property, would shoot the kid? with the same subject property, if it were somebody who is not dressed and looks hard up in life, would you shoot him? if it was somebody whose family looks like they can afford a good lawyer, would you shoot him? this subject matter is very subjective if you think about it. but the need to discharge a firearm is a deadly force which might not be proportionate or just reaction to something you do not necessarily like. this is the distinction whether the person is ready and responsible to own a weapon.

a person who is old enough to decide for himself will be responsible for his actions.

once you decide to go against the law, you also remove yourself from the protection of the law.

[Ry_Tower]

the use of a deadly weapon is based on necessity, proportionality and used as a last resort. this is not the wild west. if it were a child taking someone's property, would shoot the kid? with the same subject property, if it were somebody who is not dressed and looks hard up in life, would you shoot him? if it was somebody whose family looks like they can afford a good lawyer, would you shoot him? this subject matter is very subjective if you think about it. but the need to discharge a firearm is a deadly force which might not be proportionate or just reaction to something you do not necessarily like. this is the distinction whether the person is ready and responsible to own a weapon.

Yan ang dapat maging malinaw ang batas at ma-implement nang tama. Hindi dapat easy na magka-baril. Dapat yung talagang PRO-Gun. Peaceful, Responsible Owners ika nga.

[bmacavanza]

No.It is not a necessity in our society.

[yebo]

the use of a deadly weapon is based on necessity, proportionality and used as a last resort. this is not the wild west. if it were a child taking someone's property, would shoot the kid? with the same subject property, if it were somebody who is not dressed and looks hard up in life, would you shoot him? if it was somebody whose family looks like they can afford a good lawyer, would you shoot him? this subject matter is very subjective if you think about it. but the need to discharge a firearm is a deadly force which might not be proportionate or just reaction to something you do not necessarily like. this is the distinction whether the person is ready and responsible to own a weapon.

o sige nga, paano kung pag baba mo sa parking lot e nasalisihan ka at may tumangay ng kotse mo, di mo babarilin?

at dapat pala ang baril e nirereserba lang sa mukhang dukha? pag mukhang mayaman yung criminal e ok lang? so pag valle verde boys ang nang-carjack sa iyo e tameme ka na lang kahit may chance ka na barilin yung criminal?


sa 3 gun safety seminars na nag-attend ako ilang ulit na sinabi, pag may dalang pagaari mo ang isang magnanakaw e pwede mo barilin kahit wala na sa loob ng bakuran mo. may karapatan kang ipagtanggol ang iyong pagaari.

[jick.cejoco]

this society in the filifins tolerates or condone this wild west attitude but toleration is way different from legalization. owning a weapon requires a license. having a license just gives you a privelege or you can say a right, right to bear arms. but it does not in any way giving you a right to discharge a weapon with a purpose of taking someone else's life. what matters is what the result be in the court of law. but then again, most of the time, even the law here in the filifins is for sale.

[safeorigin]

The Phil. constitution does not recognize gun ownership as a right. At the moment it's just a privilege. The problem with this is it discourages people to own guns. I don't know about you guys but people also need to learn the mentality of a responsible gun owner.

[safeorigin]

Since we're also in the subject of self defense, I thought I'd post this video.

[beni23]

Since we're also in the subject of self defense, I thought I'd post this video.

Remember lang po na kapag iinvoke mo ang self defense ay dapat equal weapon. Mamaya hinahabol ka ng itak tapos bigla mong binaril. Hehe.


#Retzing

[safeorigin]

The previous video I posted discusses it ^^

[yebo]

Remember lang po na kapag iinvoke mo ang self defense ay dapat equal weapon. Mamaya hinahabol ka ng itak tapos bigla mong binaril. Hehe.


#Retzing

so pag hinabol ka ng itak sasabihin mo "time out muna, bibili muna ako ng itak" kahit may baril ka? by this same line of logic pag ang babae may gustong mang-rape sa kanya di niya pwede barilin kung walang baril yung rapist?

[beni23]

Self defense. Art 11 of the Revised Penal Code

Art. 11. Justifying circumstances. — The following do not incur any criminal liability:

1. Anyone who acts in defense of his person or rights, provided that the following circumstances concur;

First. Unlawful aggression
Second. Reasonable necessity of the means employed to prevent or repel it.
Third. Lack of sufficient provocation on the part of the person defending himself.

2. Any one who acts in defense of the person or rights of his spouse, ascendants, descendants, or legitimate, natural or adopted brothers or sisters, or his relatives by affinity in the same degrees and those consanguinity within the fourth civil degree, provided that the first and second requisites prescribed in the next preceding circumstance are present, and the further requisite, in case the revocation was given by the person attacked, that the one making defense had no part therein.

3. Anyone who acts in defense of the person or rights of a stranger, provided that the first and second requisites mentioned in the first circumstance of this Art. are present and that the person defending be not induced by revenge, resentment, or other evil motive.

4. Any person who, in order to avoid an evil or injury, does not act which causes damage to another, provided that the following requisites are present;

First. That the evil sought to be avoided actually exists;
Second. That the injury feared be greater than that done to avoid it;
Third. That there be no other practical and less harmful means of preventing it.

5. Any person who acts in the fulfillment of a duty or in the lawful exercise of a right or office.

6. Any person who acts in obedience to an order issued by a superior for some lawful purpose.

#Retzing

[safeorigin]

When your life is in danger, by any means defend yourself. The fact that they're attacking you while you have a gun means they have the intention of killing you at all costs.

[lowslowbenz]

so pag hinabol ka ng itak sasabihin mo "time out muna, bibili muna ako ng itak" kahit may baril ka? by this same line of logic pag ang babae may gustong mang-rape sa kanya di niya pwede barilin kung walang baril yung rapist?

I agree. Just like I said earlier, if I see a guy scaling my fence in the middle of the night, regardless if he is armed or not (most thieves are armed). I will shoot him dead. Fcuk the prevailing laws, thats why we have lawyers for that.

Its a dog eat dog world out there, one reads it on the papers, sees it on the tv news. Criminals won't spare a dime for your life if you encounter them.

[stickers]

Sunod sunod ang holdapan sa buses sa EDSA mismo.. yung isang pasahero tatalon sana para di maholdap, pinutukan tapos nilaglag sa kalsada..

Where else are we safe? Not even in our homes. So better have the capacity to protect yourself. Wag ka umasa sa pulis. madalas pa sa madalas na late sila nadating para rumesponde.