Guns: A Necessity in Today's Society?

[safeorigin]

https://www.facebook.com/lancspolice...567334/?type=1

and this is why brits are still subjects of a monarchy

[b_9904]

Owning arms has been and will always be a necessity.

[dr. d]

Owning arms has been and will always be a necessity.

that would depend.. on...
where do you live?

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Owning arms has been and will always be a necessity.

that would depend.. on...
where do you live?

[b_9904]

that would depend.. on...
where do you live?

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -



that would depend.. on...
where do you live?

Question: what do you use to defend yourself?

A weapon.

What are arms?

Weapons.

Can you be sure you will never need a weapon, ever?

No.

Hence, it is a necessity because self preservation is a basic need.

[xwangbu]

magrerenew dapat erpats ko. ang sabi nung nakausap namin sa camp olivas daw kami kesa sa crame.
sa haba at dami ng steps na involved, balak na lang na isurrender ng matanda yung mga baril nya.
gusto nya ipangalan na lang sa amin ng kapatid ko kaso di daw pwede dahil kailangan daw sa erpats ko pa rin nakapangalan.
expiry nung lisensya nya this april pero pwede pa daw until end of this year.

[foresterx]

magrerenew dapat erpats ko. ang sabi nung nakausap namin sa camp olivas daw kami kesa sa crame.
sa haba at dami ng steps na involved, balak na lang na isurrender ng matanda yung mga baril nya.
gusto nya ipangalan na lang sa amin ng kapatid ko kaso di daw pwede dahil kailangan daw sa erpats ko pa rin nakapangalan.
expiry nung lisensya nya this april pero pwede pa daw until end of this year.

bullshit yan, fully automatic rifles lang bawal transfer ngayon. pero kung pistol or semi auto rifle lang pwede transfer yan. yung ibang kilala ko na nag expire this year ang license di na nila nirenew antay na lang daw sila next at baka mag bago ang process pag bagong presidente na naman ang naka upo. yung iba naman dineclare na lang as lost kahit di naman. it's up to you kung you'll take that risk sa kagaguhan ginagawa ngayon ng FED di ko masisi mga tao kung bakit bumibili ng lose firearms to protect themselves.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

magrerenew dapat erpats ko. ang sabi nung nakausap namin sa camp olivas daw kami kesa sa crame.
sa haba at dami ng steps na involved, balak na lang na isurrender ng matanda yung mga baril nya.
gusto nya ipangalan na lang sa amin ng kapatid ko kaso di daw pwede dahil kailangan daw sa erpats ko pa rin nakapangalan.
expiry nung lisensya nya this april pero pwede pa daw until end of this year.

bullshit yan, fully automatic rifles lang bawal transfer ngayon. pero kung pistol or semi auto rifle lang pwede transfer yan. yung ibang kilala ko na nag expire this year ang license di na nila nirenew antay na lang daw sila next at baka mag bago ang process pag bagong presidente na naman ang naka upo. yung iba naman dineclare na lang as lost kahit di naman. it's up to you kung you'll take that risk sa kagaguhan ginagawa ngayon ng FED di ko masisi mga tao kung bakit bumibili ng lose firearms to protect themselves.

[yebo]

bullshit yan, fully automatic rifles lang bawal transfer ngayon. pero kung pistol or semi auto rifle lang pwede transfer yan. yung ibang kilala ko na nag expire this year ang license di na nila nirenew antay na lang daw sila next at baka mag bago ang process pag bagong presidente na naman ang naka upo. yung iba naman dineclare na lang as lost kahit di naman. it's up to you kung you'll take that risk sa kagaguhan ginagawa ngayon ng FED di ko masisi mga tao kung bakit bumibili ng lose firearms to protect themselves.

.

Magrerenew din sana ako 4 weeks ago. Sa dami ng process di ko na nirenew. Antay na lang na mapalitan ang system nila tutal wala na si purisima. Bayad na lang ng penalty pag nirenew ko na.

[Flip]

Wala pa ba kumatok sa inyo to remind daw of new licensing? Meron daw sabi ng officemate ko at nasa barangay at local police precincts na daw yata names ng mga residenteng may baril. Di ko alam kung meron na pumunta sa bahay dahil lagi ako wala. Due ako sa May gusto ko na asikasuhin as early as now kaso kakatamad. Worried lang dahil batas pa rin ito

[compact]

Magrerenew din sana ako 4 weeks ago. Sa dami ng process di ko na nirenew. Antay na lang na mapalitan ang system nila tutal wala na si purisima. Bayad na lang ng penalty pag nirenew ko na.

Wala bang kaso kapag hindi nag renew? Meron kasing home visit ang mga taga FED kapag expired license.

[yebo]

Last time nag renew ako 1 year expired licenses ko, penalty lang naman.

[kimbon]

sabi ng ukol ko mahirap at maraming additional requirements daw para magrenew ng gun license simula umupo bilang chief PNP si purisima? ganun rin ba sa inyong mga gun owners?

[b_9904]

Wala bang kaso kapag hindi nag renew? Meron kasing home visit ang mga taga FED kapag expired license.

May hinuli naba sa mga nakatok? If wala pa, no worries.

If meron pa, then its their chance to challenge the current IRR of renewal and whatnot.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Wala bang kaso kapag hindi nag renew? Meron kasing home visit ang mga taga FED kapag expired license.

May hinuli naba sa mga nakatok? If wala pa, no worries.

If meron pa, then its their chance to challenge the current IRR of renewal and whatnot.

[yebo]

Para ka na din kumuha ng new license sa dami ng requirements. RTC clearance, Court clearance (iba ito sa rtc), Police clearance, NBI clearance, gun safety seminar, psycho test, plus one more i forgot what. Di kaya ng 1 day lang, while before 1 hour lang tapos na renewal.

[nelany]

Para ka na din kumuha ng new license sa dami ng requirements. RTC clearance, Court clearance (iba ito sa rtc), Police clearance, NBI clearance, gun safety seminar, psycho test, plus one more i forgot what. Di kaya ng 1 day lang, while before 1 hour lang tapos na renewal.

Requirement para sa LTOPF:
1. Neuro Psychiatric test - ~ 3 hours exam
2. Drug test - intay ka ng ilang araw
3. DI clearance - immediate release
4. Biometric - immediate release
5. Police Clearance - sa area mo. They will ask you for your barangay clearance bago Police clearance.
6. RTC clearance
7. MTC clearance
8. Gun safety seminar

Documents Required:
1. NSO Birth certificate
2. Proof of latest billing
3. ID's (at least 2)
4. ITR (For OFW/Balikbayan, certificate of employment)

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Para ka na din kumuha ng new license sa dami ng requirements. RTC clearance, Court clearance (iba ito sa rtc), Police clearance, NBI clearance, gun safety seminar, psycho test, plus one more i forgot what. Di kaya ng 1 day lang, while before 1 hour lang tapos na renewal.

Requirement para sa LTOPF:
1. Neuro Psychiatric test - ~ 3 hours exam
2. Drug test - intay ka ng ilang araw
3. DI clearance - immediate release
4. Biometric - immediate release
5. Police Clearance - sa area mo. They will ask you for your barangay clearance bago Police clearance.
6. RTC clearance
7. MTC clearance
8. Gun safety seminar

Documents Required:
1. NSO Birth certificate
2. Proof of latest billing
3. ID's (at least 2)
4. ITR (For OFW/Balikbayan, certificate of employment)

[b_9904]

Kaya ang daming hindi maka renew eh. Sana lang magbago yan by sept.

I wont have with court clearances pero yung nbi at police hindi madali makuha.

Anong legal argument kaya ang maganda dyan. Hmmm...

[Juan Martinez]

as a former cop, and coming from a family of policemen, guns are already part and parcel of our way of life. a policeman's issued FA is part of his body. so the question of it being a necessity is a no-brainer.
unlike in the US where gun ownership is a right, here in the Philippines it is only a privilege and that accounts for those numerous requirements. you cannot lawfully own one or your previous license cannot be renewed without complying those mandatory requirements. the reason for this is not really difficult to fathom-- guns should only be in the hands of those who are responsible enough to own or carry them.
nung naging fiscal po tayo dami-dami din tayong na- prosecute na lumabag sa PD1866 pa nung una during the time of marcos at naging RA8294 (tinatawag na Robin Padilla law), ngayon RA10591 na yata. Kahit na may lisensya pero walang PTCFOR meron din. pag ganyang kaso huwag na sana makapag probation para makulong talaga. ngayon under RA10591, RTC na yata lahat. in my experience, dami din naging hambug o naging matapang na kasi may bakal. yan ang rason sa NPE (neuro - psychiatric examination) pero naging hawsyaw din yan cguro. kung iistriktohin daming di makapasar dyan. sana PNP HEALTH SERVICE ang mag-conduct nyan, kagaya ng pumasok ka sa pnpa or psbrc ba.

[Juan Martinez]

the first is a photograph of a 5.56 AR15 Bushmaster; the second is a Danao - made 9mm AR15 (these are NOT mine). I think Filipino gunsmiths are really good, and they can even copy HKs MP5.

[maki mi]

Dapat exempt na sa neuro-psychiatric test at gun safety seminar ang firearm holder with at least 3 renewals and walang record sa NBI at mga Korte. It should be enough to presume na matino yung owner.

[Juan Martinez]

Dapat exempt na sa neuro-psychiatric test at gun safety seminar ang firearm holder with at least 3 renewals and walang record sa NBI at mga Korte. It should be enough to presume na matino yung owner.

sana. but psychological assessment should be periodic. soundness of one's mind is never constant. the ability of our mind to handle stress changes as we go through the vagaries of life. in fact, this is the number one requirement in the list underscoring its importance. you carry a gun and you're a basket case you're a ticking bomb. neuro-psychiatric examination is non-negotiable if one seeks to join the pnp, a lesson learned of what transpired in aklan in 2005 wherein at least 7 policemen including the PD of aklan and COP of kalibo were dead because a PO1 ran amuck. it should be made non-negotiable too to those who want to carry FAs.

[maki mi]

I agree with your point. The LTOPF i think is good for 2 years, so do we undergo all the requirements again everytime we renew it, or bayad na lang for renewal like the driver's licence? Kasi for me, if one has to undergo the bloody routine of securing all those requirements every renewal time, baka mag loose FA na lang ang ako, iwas hassle and more practical dahil tambay lang naman sa bahay ang FA for defense purposes. Tutal, when you shoot someone in your own property you can make it appear that the other party owns your loose FA.

sana. but psychological assessment should be periodic. soundness of one's mind is never constant. the ability of our mind to handle stress changes as we go through the vagaries of life.