Guns: A Necessity in Today's Society?

[rfgoons]

Great posts sir safeorigin. Informative

[safeorigin]

Well, I guess it's the main reason why I like CZ-75. You can hold the pistol very high and have a very low bore axis. If I had the money to burn I would have bought a Steyr L9-A1 even though the Walther PPQ and PPX have better triggers.

[rfgoons]

This boils down to proper gun education and gun safety handling. Licensed gun owners are mostly responsible for owning guns,unlike criminals whose primary purpose of having guns is for their criminal activitivies. I think most gun related incidents are perpetrated by people who have unlicensed guns. Licensed gunowners should not be made scapegoats for the irresponsible and illegal use of guns by criminals.

[rfgoons]

Moreover, licensed gunowners do not go about town brandishing their guns and shooting bullets. The gun must always be concealed and the only time you are allowed to use it is when there is need to defend oneself or others.

[rfgoons]

Take for example switzerland. All its citizens have guns and they are taught proper gun education. Almost nil in gun related incidents. You do not see them killing each other. They are legitimate and responsible gun owners.

[dr. d]

Take for example switzerland. All its citizens have guns and they are taught proper gun education. Almost nil in gun related incidents. You do not see them killing each other. They are legitimate and responsible gun owners.

switzerland is a neutral country. if it gets attacked, it has nobody to turn to for defense, except its own people.
in the event of attack, all the mayor has to do is to ask the people to bring their guns and fall in line.
such a disciplined people.. one of the lowest crime rates, i believe..
macarthur wanted that in the philippines.. a citizens' army.. but... what do we do? abolish rotc!
now, we have china ... buhayin ang rotc!

[rfgoons]

switzerland is a neutral country. if it gets attacked, it has nobody to turn to for defense, except its own people.
in the event of attack, all the mayor has to do is to ask the people to bring their guns and fall in line.
such a disciplined people.. one of the lowest crime rates, i believe..
macarthur wanted that in the philippines.. a citizens' army.. but... what do we do? abolish rotc!
now, we have china ... buhayin ang rotc!

There was a story told that during WWII, Hitler wanted to invade Switzerland despite its neutral status. Although stubborn headed, Hitler was persuaded by his generals not to because they shall be having a difficult time doing so as the people of Switzerland were all armed sharpshooters. Likewise, Stalin imposed his reign of terror to a disarmed citizens of Russia. Ditto with Pol Pot of Cambodia, Idi Amin of Uganda and all tyrants of the world. Despite criticism, America like Switzerland remained free because of its time-honored right of its citizens to arm themselves. Thus, guns in the hands of responsible citizens are deterrents not only to the tyranny of governments but also of criminals. No one shall dare commit a criminal act against you if he knew that you have the capacity to meet force with force. Without actually using your gun, you have prevented a criminal from doing his thing.

[frenchtower]

[Monty]

A gun is a lot like a knife, baseball bat, dos por dos or tubo.

[rfgoons]

To each his own on the concept of the origin and basis of the right to self defense and preservation. The Holy Bible can attest that the right is a God-given right. At any rate, whatever you look at it, said right is a natural and inalienable right.

[rfgoons]

If I may inject a little religious and moral dimension to the discussion as this may also involve qthe morality of owning and using the gun as well as the violence associated with guns. Anti-gun people see the gun as an evil instrument. Anti-gun people also based their stand on non-violence and the preaching of our Lord Jesus Christ to love one another, to love our neighbors including love of enemies.Christian love enunciates that we must develop the capacity to love those who have done us harm or have hurt us. Definitely on that basis, enemies would include criminals of our society who harmed or threatened to harm us. I agree with that because as good christians, we must love and care each other. Nevertheless, another principle will come to play. God has given us the gift of life, our lives which we must take care and preserve to glorify His kingdom. We are forbidden from harming ourselves (that is why suicide is a mortal sin), or to allow others to harm us. Life is precious that God intends us to give utmost attention and to preserve it as intended. Thus, it is imperative that in preserving my life, I must not allow others to destroy it. I have to protect and defend myself if there is a need to do so. I shall love my neighbors including my enemies (criminals) as well as to forgive them if the threat is already gone or I am not faced with imminent danger. A gun is not evil, what is evil is the man behind the gun whose intent is to commit a crime against another man. I hope I can convince anti-gun people on this.

Besides, my post above was meant to show to anti- gun people opposing gun ownership on religious or moral grounds that their objections are indeed baseless

[frenchtower]

http://youtu.be/q9ZEbyDee8A

http://youtu.be/W9eCrs_MXxo

[safeorigin]

^yup, here's a much better explanation

[rfgoons]

Well, if you have to show the correctness of your side and the fallacy of the other side, you have to cover every angle and show that your side can be supported on practical, societal, philosophical, academic, legal. moral, theological and religious grounds.

[frenchtower]

My next gun... If I can find one

http://youtu.be/dyBzdBg3FWY

[Vodka]

My next gun... If I can find one

Lionheart Industries LH9 Mk II Full Review by Colion Noir - YouTube

that's just a tweaked Daewoo DP51 which i used to have. not a fan of the tri-action trigger system, too gimmicky. i sold it

[xwangbu]

ot: gano katagal at kahirap pagkuha ng LTOPF for type 1 and 2?

saka kayong mga currently licensed using the old process, pano kayo magrerenew or kukuha ng LTOPF?

[safeorigin]

Video review of the Arsenal Strike One pistol :D

[safeorigin]

wow... it's like the gun has no muzzle flip(well, there is but just a little)

[userfriendly]

may nakasubok na magrenew ng lic this year? Parang ang dami ng requirements. Ano ba processo? Pwede ba sa gun store aat non appearance sa LTOP at FA lic?