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    #741
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post




    Bro.,- mahal ang Bosco generator; mahal din ang Honda Elemax sa link mo....

    My sister bought a genset a month ago,- around P38K for a 6KVA unit....

    When we were scouting earlier, we found a 5.5KVA genset for P36K at Wilcon....

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    "The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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    Tama Ito. Walang kwenta yun mga 1kva na yan.

    Sayang lang Pera. For me minimum dapat 3kva and even for that 2Kva+ na lang talaga output.

    Mukhang Marami nanaman balak bumili ng genset for the impending earthquake ah. [emoji51]

    Baka nakkikiuso lang kayo at everyday ninyo Makita genset tapos nasa isip Nino sayang lang hinde magagamit. Pero once na nagamit mo tapos Ikaw lang Meron electricity na Bahay. Priceless! [emoji23]

    Paayos niyo pala mabili wiring palagay kayo ng transfer switch just to be sure.

    Bili na lang kayo ng china made sa Manila. Mura pa. Huwag na mga inverter-inverter na yan or mga portable and other pautot na features.

    Basta keep it simple. Hinde Naman talaga nagagamit eh hinde ko pa yata nagagamit na for 2-3 years genset namin. Just seating there waiting for that MasterCard moment.

    Fancy nga genset nabili mo tapos sobrang habang kva naman Doon na lang ako Sa basic pero mataas na kva.

    For the same amount of money I will go with the higher KVA than full featurse na genset.

    Huwag na kayo mag learn from experoencd. Buy the highest KVA you can afford now para hinde na mag upgrade. Believe me mabibitin kayo pag mababang kva lang kukunin ninyo.


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    #742


    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post

    Baka nakkikiuso lang kayo at everyday ninyo Makita genset tapos nasa isip Nino sayang lang hinde magagamit. Pero once na nagamit mo tapos Ikaw lang Meron electricity na Bahay. Priceless! [emoji23]


    For the same amount of money I will go with the higher KVA than full featurse na genset.

    Huwag na kayo mag learn from experoencd. Buy the highest KVA you can afford now para hinde na mag upgrade. Believe me mabibitin kayo pag mababang kva lang kukunin ninyo.
    Agree here on the high power capacity genset..... Worth it.

    It's not the features of the genset,- it's the electrical power when you need it.

    Minsan mo lang magamit,- tapos ang mga kapitbahay mo na walang kuryente,- bayad na kaagad ang pinambili mo..... Talbog silang lahat sa iyo... Sa buong street mo,- ikaw lang ang may kuryente (at ilaw...)...


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    #743
    Thanks for the replies guys. Akala ko nakakasira ng appliances yung mga hindi inverter type? In our house in Bicol yung electric cooperative notorious for having fluctuating electricity supply. Pansin namin hindi tumatagal yung mga appliances doon. While di rin naman daw maganda electricity supply ng Meralco, much better pa rin daw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Thanks for the replies guys. Akala ko nakakasira ng appliances yung mga hindi inverter type? In our house in Bicol yung electric cooperative notorious for having fluctuating electricity supply. Pansin namin hindi tumatagal yung mga appliances doon. While di rin naman daw maganda electricity supply ng Meralco, much better pa rin daw.
    Not really bro.,- am using ours for many years with (pressure) water pump, ACs, refrigerators, electric fans (motors)

    And TV (CRT before) and now LED TVs, desktop PCs, modem>wifi.... [with internal AC-DC converters] etc... LED and CFL lights.....

    No issue. Marketing blah blah,- "creating a need"...


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    #745
    Make sure your genset has built in AVR or install AVRs on sensitive appliances ...

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    #746
    Here my two cents regarding generators. FYI, I ended buying a small capacity (rated at 1000W, 1500W max) - enoug to power lights, TV, maybe 2 electric fans, and a desktop computer (maybe more small appliance pwede pa).

    So bakit nga ba maliit lang binili ko?

    Naiisp ko kasi kung saglit lang brownout, yung basic needs lang kelangan ko i-power up. Fans, lights, maybe TV, and computer kung may deadline or kelangan tapusing report. No need for aircon and refrigerator kasi saglit lang naman ang brownout.

    Eh paano kung matagalang ang brownout (say 1 or 2 weeks)? Magandang tanong. I still won't plug-in the aircon and ref and other appliance na malakas ang consumo. Bakit? Malakas na ang gastos niyan sa gasolina. So alisin lahat ng laman sa ref at bumili na lang ng for one day.

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    #747
    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    Here my two cents regarding generators. FYI, I ended buying a small capacity (rated at 1000W, 1500W max) - enoug to power lights, TV, maybe 2 electric fans, and a desktop computer (maybe more small appliance pwede pa).

    So bakit nga ba maliit lang binili ko?

    Naiisp ko kasi kung saglit lang brownout, yung basic needs lang kelangan ko i-power up. Fans, lights, maybe TV, and computer kung may deadline or kelangan tapusing report. No need for aircon and refrigerator kasi saglit lang naman ang brownout.

    Eh paano kung matagalang ang brownout (say 1 or 2 weeks)? Magandang tanong. I still won't plug-in the aircon and ref and other appliance na malakas ang consumo. Bakit? Malakas na ang gastos niyan sa gasolina. So alisin lahat ng laman sa ref at bumili na lang ng for one day.
    Good for you paps wala ka sa lugar namin, bicol location ko, and kapag tinamaan ka ng amtinding bagyo dito, mahina ang two weeks.

    Kapag ganito sa amin area mo, get a diesel genset and get the highest kVA you can afford.

    Ang genset ko is a makeshift 14HP kubota clone engine (Golden Bow) matched with a 5kVA dynamo, then ang output is connected sa 5kVA (around 8k ata kuha ko) voltage regulator, will give you a running time for 12 hours, then pahinga mo lang mga 1 hour, takbo mo na ulit. Belt driven para low speed ang prime mover ko. Kasama ang ref namin, for normal household use, di nga aabot ng 0.5 kVa ang load mo nyan sa bahay that is around 5A load... Pero kung plano mo magplantsa, iba ng usapan yan.

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    Thanks bro. Problem ko din with bigger gensets is the space. The only open spaces I have left is a tiny balcony, laundry area (always wet) and my dogs' den. Parang gusto ko sabihin kay mrs mag hotel na lang kami pag brownout.

    Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

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    #749
    3kva is already more than enough for household consumption. The only thing I'm concerned right not (or when I use the genset) is the noise! It looks (sounds) like those Chinese made mufflers are no good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vvti2.0 View Post
    Good for you paps wala ka sa lugar namin, bicol location ko, and kapag tinamaan ka ng amtinding bagyo dito, mahina ang two weeks.

    Kapag ganito sa amin area mo, get a diesel genset and get the highest kVA you can afford.

    Ang genset ko is a makeshift 14HP kubota clone engine (Golden Bow) matched with a 5kVA dynamo, then ang output is connected sa 5kVA (around 8k ata kuha ko) voltage regulator, will give you a running time for 12 hours, then pahinga mo lang mga 1 hour, takbo mo na ulit. Belt driven para low speed ang prime mover ko. Kasama ang ref namin, for normal household use, di nga aabot ng 0.5 kVa ang load mo nyan sa bahay that is around 5A load... Pero kung plano mo magplantsa, iba ng usapan yan.
    Better explore other off-grid options if your are using your genset for that long period of time.

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    #751
    Sometimes it's more convenient to go to a nearby hotel during brownouts ... the money you save from the purchase and maintenance of a decent generator (15KVA-20KVA) would be more than enough to pay for hotel bills ... not to mention the income it earns if placed in a good investment ... well, assuming you just go to a decent 3 star hotel ... Had a 30 KVA generator before but sold it ...

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    #752
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Sometimes it's more convenient to go to a nearby hotel during brownouts ... the money you save from the purchase and maintenance of a decent generator (15KVA-20KVA) would be more than enough to pay for hotel bills ... not to mention the income it earns if placed in a good investment ... well, assuming you just go to a decent 3 star hotel ... Had a 30 KVA generator before but sold it ...
    30KVA??? That a big big big one. Definitely for a big house.

    That is why I chose a small genset over a big one. I wont bother powering the whole for long periods of time. Eh kung saglit lang naman brownout, tiisin ko na lang.

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    #753
    mga sirs patanong naman. i'm planning to add some wood planks on the base of the genset house para mabawasan yung vibration. Plano ko is just enough wood so that the base rests on the wood, and nakaangat yung mga gulong.


    OK na kaya coco lumber or scrap plywood?

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    #754
    coco lumber wouldn't last yata lalo na kung exposed sa weather. solid wood planks na gamitin mo bro, tingin ka sa mga scrap yards.

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    Hindi naman po mababasa sir, nasa loob sya ng bahay bahay. But yeah denser wood would be better

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    #756
    used tires!
    brand new tires, for better look-ability.

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    #757
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    mga sirs patanong naman. i'm planning to add some wood planks on the base of the genset house para mabawasan yung vibration. Plano ko is just enough wood so that the base rests on the wood, and nakaangat yung mga gulong.


    OK na kaya coco lumber or scrap plywood?
    Post ka ng pics...
    I have vibro isolators for gensets.. ano rating ng genset mo paps?

    Wood or tires i dont recommend... pwede pa.. Gravel.. pero in time uusog or hahawi ang gravel..

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    Sorry forgot to attach earlier:

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Sorry forgot to attach earlier:

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    Paps... ganyan lang talaga yan...

    Pero if you want better vibra isolations.. you can get the smallest engine support you can buy and customized it on all for corners.. .

    Paps... poor ang ventilation? ... mag overheat yan... yung exhuast pipe lagyan mo ng extension palabas... dapat maganda ventilation...
    Last edited by glenn manikis; April 23rd, 2017 at 11:12 PM.

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    #760
    parang walang vibration damper pads bro... parang maliit wire gauge for 5500..

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