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    #101
    Arroyo sends 4000 soldiers to hunt Abus



    By Christine Avendańo, Julie Alipala
    Inquirer
    Last updated 02:58am (Mla time) 08/11/2007


    MANILA, Philippines—A month after 10 Marines were beheaded, government forces suffered some of their heaviest casualties in decades—26 dead—in clashes with Moro guerrillas in Sulu that prompted demands from Congress for the military to explain why they were being clobbered in the battlefield.
    “As far as I can remember, this is our biggest casualty in a day,” Armed Forces spokesperson Lt. Col. Bartolome Bacarro said.
    Counting military reports that 31 of the guerrillas were also killed, the death toll from the series of clashes in Maimbung and nearby areas on Jolo Island stood on Friday at 57.
    Outraged by the death of the soldiers, President Macapagal-Arroyo ordered the military to hunt down the attackers and directed relief agencies to attend to thousands of displaced civilians.
    The military said the attackers included the Abu Sayyaf bandits and rogue elements within the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF), a separatist group with which the government signed a peace deal in 1996.
    The 26 military fatalities included 10 soldiers killed during an ambush in Maimbung on Thursday morning and 15 more soldiers killed in a separate gunbattle hours later 7 km from the site of the first encounter, the military said. One of the fatalities was a military officer.
    Another soldier was killed in an earlier encounter in Parang town.
    Seventeen soldiers and 25 Moro gunmen were wounded in the encounters, the military said.
    The soldiers killed in the Thursday morning ambush had retrieved the body of a soldier slain in an earlier clash and were bringing it to the pier when they were attacked.
    Armed Forces Chief of Staff Gen. Hermogenes Esperon Jr. said the military expected “more fierce fighting” in Sulu in the coming days.
    ‘What’s happening?’
    At the Senate, lawmakers said the military must explain its latest debacle, which occurred a full month after 14 Marines were killed—10 of them beheaded—in an ambush on Basilan Island on July 10. The military had also blamed that ambush on the Abu Sayyaf.
    “What is happening in our Armed Forces?” said Senate Majority Leader Francis Pangilinan. “The buck stops with General Esperon. (He should) explain why we are being clobbered in the field.”
    “Are we sending our young men out to die in the fields because of the incompetence of their superiors?” Pangilinan said, adding Esperon should publicly explain “why we are facing a string of setbacks despite the billions being poured into the military establishment year after year.”
    The military said it was fielding two more battalions, roughly 1,000 men, in Sulu to help in the pursuit of its quarry.
    This would bring to about 4,000 the number of soldiers in that area, pitted against some 200 Abu Sayyaf bandits and their allies.
    “I’m very sad about it,” Esperon said of the heavy casualties. “It brings memories of one of the encounters I had when I was a lieutenant when we had similar numbers of casualties.”
    He added: “We are not going to give up because we have suffered casualties.”
    Esperon said suffering casualties in military operations was expected.
    “These are the people who have been beheading people in Sulu and so we want to go after them even at the expense of the lives of our soldiers because that’s our duty,” he said.
    “We will not stop. We will go after them, we will continue to go after them.”
    4 encounters
    He said Ms Arroyo was “very concerned” with what had happened and instructed him to “assess and review some things.”
    Esperon plans to go to Sulu and Basilan on Monday to make the assessment.
    Task Force Comet, the group implementing the so-called Oplan Ultimatum 2 aimed at stamping out the Abu Sayyaf, started its offensive against the group last Aug. 2.
    Bacarro said a series of four encounters had occurred in Sulu since Aug. 8 when the military renewed its offensive against the Abu Sayyaf Group in the towns of Indanan, Maimbung and Parang following tips from civilians that high value targets were in the area.
    He said they were verifying reports that among the dead was the son of Abu Sayyaf leader Dr. Abu Pula.
    3 Abu leaders
    Bacarro stressed that of the four incidents the past three days, three were initiated by the military.
    In Thursday’s second gun battle, where 15 soldiers died, the government forces encountered 120 Abu Sayyaf members and some MNLF elements at Barangay Tambaking in Maimbung.
    Explaining the big number of casualties in that incident, Bacarro said the military clashed with a big group headed by three Abu Sayyaf leaders—Radullan Sahiron, Dr. Abu and Albader Parad.
    He said the first encounter happened on Aug. 7 when soldiers encountered 50 Abu Sayyaf members in Indanan that resulted in the wounding of two Marines.
    The second incident happened on Aug. 8 when Alpha company of the 33rd Infantry Battalion engaged about 40 to 50 Abu Sayyaf members. A soldier was killed while five others were wounded in that clash.
    In that incident, four ASG members were killed, reportedly including the son of Abu Pula and a subcommander.
    Bacarro said the military committed no lapses as “ we were the ones who initiated the engagement.”
    MNLF vice chair Hatimil Hassan said the MNLF was surprised why the military was insisting that those involved in the clashes were Abu Sayyaf bandits.
    Hassan said MNLF forces were the ones engaging the military since Tuesday in retaliation for the death of MNLF commander Jihli Habbi and four others.
    He said the military on Tuesday and Wednesday shelled Sampunay village in Parang and later assaulted an MNLF camp there, killing Habbi and several others, including a minor.
    “Although under attack, our forces on the ground have not declared jihad (holy war). Right now, separate fighting is ongoing in the towns of Parang, Maimbung and Indanan,” Hassan said.
    Appeal to OIC
    Hassan said by their count, at least 30 soldiers had died since the fighting began. The MNLF, he said, lost seven members including Habbi.
    Hassan said the MNLF did not want the crisis to go out of hand and they were appealing to the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) to intervene.
    The OIC brokered the 1996 peace deal between the government and the MNLF.
    “We informed the OIC of the current situation through e-mails and fax direct to Jeddah,” Hassan said. “We requested them to intervene in the fighting that may escalate to other municipalities of Sulu.”
    Angry Tan
    Sulu Gov. Abdusakur Tan could hardly control his anger as thousands of families fled their homes, leaving behind their potential harvests.
    “My understanding with (Maj.) Gen. (Reuben) Rafael was that the operation will only be focused in one area, but apparently it already escalated to other municipalities,” Tan told the Inquirer by phone.
    He was referring to the chief of the Task Force Comet.
    “Rafael will have to give us an assessment of the situation. If he cannot control the situation, then he might as well pull out from the operation and reassess their position,” a fuming Tan said.
    He said that when he talked to Rafael a few days ago, he was assured that the military operation against the Abu Sayyaf would only be confined in the town of Indanan.
    But clashes have spread to Parang and Maimbung towns as well, dragging the MNLF into the fray.
    “General Rafael has to explain why the operation escalated to other towns, he has to shed light on this and somebody has to take responsibility for all of these,” Tan said. With reports from Juliet Labog-Javellana and Dona Pazzibugan in Manila, Edwin O. Fernandez, Jeoffrey Maitem and Dennis Jay C. Santos, Inquirer Mindanao; Jeoffrey Maitem, Dennis Santos and Ryan Rosauro, Inquirer Mindanao, and AP, Inquirer wires


    Marami ng namatay sa sundalo natin

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    oh shucks brace yourselves for bomb scares again here in the Metro

    why cant we just leave them alone. their place is a hell hole anyway. kumbaga sa AFrica godless or god forsaken (at least for our Christian God).

    the vatican will and always send missionaries in the those hi-tension regions. it's in their order of battle. kung makikita nyo lang kung ano ginawa ng mga African genocide campaign sa mga missionaries. that's the risk that they have to do over and over again.

    if these 4000 soldiers can wipe them all out in a week ok lang pero pag tumagal ito ng months, expect these extremists to retaliate here

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue View Post
    why cant we just leave them alone. their place is a hell hole anyway. kumbaga sa AFrica godless or god forsaken (at least for our Christian God).
    Simple. We can't have 2 governments running one republic. Muslim Mindanao is still the sovereign territory of the Republic of the Philippines, with a recognized government. These rebels want the whole of Mindanao to secede from the Philippines and for them to govern themselves. The trouble is, if you have armed secessionists in the south and you eventually give in to their demands, how long before they start laying claims to the Visayas or even parts of Luzon?

    Erap's formula to address these rebels, be it MNLF, MILF or ASG was the correct one IMHO. Too many soldiers have died and its time to really eliminate this problem once and for all.

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    bkit ba hindi kaya ng mga yan lumaban ng harap harapan nlng gzto tago ng tago.

    atsaka bkit hindi pa malupil ng military natin yan mga yan eh mga kuto lng yan. pano na kng ibang bansa sumalakay satin edi yari na.

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    kasi traydor sila by nature, kung nakatalikod yun kalaban saka sila lalaban, pero pag harapan, pero pag susugurin na silacall their backers na kesyo dapat peace talk etc...

    parang yun napanood ko sa news, na member ng MILF or MNLF..inamin na members nila yun nagambused sa military nu n thursday pero dapat daw the gov't should go back to peace negotaition, gago pala siya eh...patayin silang lahat saka na bumalik sa negotiation..

    anyways, gov't should not get muslims to negotiate on their behalf, muslim will always defend muslims, kahit na mali....basta ang kalaban is christian kahit mali yun muslim tama pa rin sa kanila...

    we have treated them like a baby too long. it's time to show them who is the boss....

    ubisin silang lahat!!!!, the muslim insurgents doesn't want improvement sa mindanao dahil mauubusan sila ng mauuto...they want all the people their to remain uneducated para meron silng mauuto...

    pag sila nag ambused ok lang, pero pag sila na ang lulubusin, all this muslims scholars, are up in arms na inaapi sila...kalokohan!!!
    Last edited by shadow; August 13th, 2007 at 12:20 PM.

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    #106
    Hmmm...poverty and fundamentalism are one deadly mix if you give the person a rifle.

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    lintek ang tagal!!!

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    The best solution to this are napalm-B bombs.... burn down the whole forest. Kill all of them and control all the muslims down south. Salvage even those with thoughts of uprising or Jihad. Limit their human rights (so as to be cool with the law). Forget peace talks. It's a waste of time. Control is better.

    ah, napalm-B... imagine people getting burned alive at 1200++ Celcius while suffocating due to lack of oxygen.. . those muslims will go to hell to meet 75 sluts (instead of heaven and 75 virgins). hehehe.
    Last edited by Horsepower; August 13th, 2007 at 04:04 PM.

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    US troops aboard Humvee spotted leading Military convoy



    Inquirer
    Last updated 05:13am (Mla time) 08/15/2007


    JOLO -- Heavily armed US Special Forces troops were seen leading a military convoy Tuesday in Indanan town, Sulu province, where Philippine security forces are fighting Muslim insurgents.
    An Agence France-Presse photographer filmed the US troops aboard a Humvee armored jeep as two soldiers manned a vehicle top-mounted with a machine gun with a miniature US flag clearly visible on the back of one soldier’s helmet.
    The American troops were part of a convoy of Philippine Marines hunting members of the terrorist group Abu Sayyaf.
    Lee McClenny, a US Embassy spokesperson, told AFP the Americans in Sulu were mostly from the Special Forces and “are not involved in any combat roles.”
    They, however, would “fire back if fired upon,” he said.
    McClenny added: “Our role is to advise and assist the Philippine military. This is the main focus of our anti-terror campaign.”
    The Americans headed a convoy of military trucks ferrying Filipino Marines to a base on Jolo island, Sulu’s capital.
    National Security Adviser Norberto Gonzales told reporters earlier this week that the US, British and Australian military maintained “intelligence” units in the southern Philippines, where local Muslim separatist guerrillas are accused of providing training facilities to foreign al-Qaida-linked militants.
    Under the US-Philippines Visiting Forces Agreement, American soldiers deployed in the country are banned from actual combat, but both governments say they provide training and intelligence to Filipino troops going after the militants.
    “Yes, they travel with Philippine military convoys. We rotate our people in and out of Jolo on a regular basis,” McClenny said.
    AFP


    Dapat gamitin rin ng mga kano ang kanilang mga eroplano sa pagtutugis at pagbobomba sa mga terroristang yan

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    Tulad ng parating sinasabi ng commandant namin during my ROTC days. Matagal ng natapos ang gulo dito kung walang pakialamerong pulitiko, at human rights activist.

    Iba ang gyera dito sa mindanao, ang kalaban ng militar puro mag kakamag anak.

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