Fraternity Hazing - uso pa din?

[empy]

"twisted sense of brotherhood" is soooo right.

[sirmykel]

kapag meron mga problema fraternity tahimik talaga noh?
no offense po sa mga merong frat/brods pero parang unfair
dun sa mga biktima talaga.

[badsekktor]

nawala na lahat na members.... nagtago na yata.... hindi ko lang maisip bakit hinayaan nila na magkaganun yun neophyte.... what I mean is there are always a group na in charge sa kalagayan ng neophytes or in some cases may protector ka na member.... unless hinayaan lang nung memcom or nun protector.

I still remember yun protector ko at that time, isang sis namin and older batch sya! di ko alam kung bakit sobrang protective sa kin at feeling ko hinaharass ako! lagi ba naman nakadikit at nakaakap sa kin!

[BlueBimmer]

IMO pag buhay na ang nakasalalay, tama lang iban ang fraternity, pwede naman magform ng mga clubs if talagang maganda ang intensyon.

[badsekktor]

IMO a fraternity is a club but only having male members. nilalagyan na lang ng greek letters at tinatawag na fraternity para tawaging "astig"

Sa mga taga-UP, they can attest that almost all of the orgs or clubs there have initiation processes similiar to fraternities. sometimes mas mahirap pa initiation compared to other fraternities so kung iba-ban nila yun, what keeps these fraternities from changing their classification from a fraternity to a simple organization?

or iba-ban na rin ba lahat pati mga organizations? i do think that banning them is not the solution. remember, hindi lahat ng namatay sa hazing eh galing sa fraternity, meron din galing sa mga organizations. A batchmate of mine got his hand sliced by a knife and take note, hindi frat yun but a well respected science club from up with members na respected researchers and doctors sa bansa natin.

[empy]

my wife came from UP. the "initiations" that the clubs there involved some mild form of public embarrassment (like singing a song in public or something harmless like that), gathering a certain number of signatures from established members, and being active in a minimum number of org activities. that's a far cry from physical torture.

but regardless, any student organization - whether they call themselves a fraternity or not - that practices torture..este, hazing should be banned

[badsekktor]

my wife came from UP. the "initiations" that the clubs there involved some mild form of public embarrassment (like singing a song in public or something harmless like that), gathering a certain number of signatures from established members, and being active in a minimum number of org activities. that's a far cry from physical torture.

actually public humiliation is a part of the initiation process. nagkakaroon ng physical kapag "finals" na. usually meron physical pero self inflicted lang like doing push-ups and the likes. physical torture or bugbugan is a no no unless pasaway ang mga officers.....

but regardless, any student organization - whether they call themselves a fraternity or not - that practices torture..este, hazing should be banned

AFAIK matagal na banned ang hazing bro. 1995 pa. ngayon ang problema eh ang compliance ng orgs or fraternities. I do think that there should be representation from the school admin sa mga "finals" which is a better alternative than banning these orgs. at least these orgs would be very careful in doing their "finals"

[shadow]

kalokohan yan mga fraternity, masyado na silang maraming naloloko....

[kinyo]

The latest new on Cris' case is that a witness, a houseboy, confessed details of hazing and later recants. Now why am I not surprised?

I'll bet my neighbor's ass more witnesses to this case would later recant! Of course there's the usual paid witness who has seen this sigma rho member at a party to dispute the member's presence at the hazing. And I would not be surprised either if those who took Cris to the hospital deny ever going to the hospital at all!

Even if fraternties are outlawed (i doubt it), they would only go underground. The thrill of experiencing pain, and gaining a lot from it, is too irresistible.

[tsupermario]

Miriam is going to have her hands full with this one. Many lawmakers are themselves members of fraternities/sororities. Most likely they'll cross frat lines and close ranks just to oppose this proposal.

her proposal may also infringe the right to form associations..