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  1. kimpOy
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    October 20th, 2006 01:10 PM #21
    i told you..there's no such thing as easy money....
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    October 20th, 2006 01:28 PM #22
    AFAIK...sarado na yang FQ....

    naimbistigahan pa yan at yung mismong nag-umpisa nyan eh sinabi na nagbitaw na raw sila at wala na silang kinalaman (read: wala ng pakialam) sa mga nangyayari at kasalukuyang transaksyon ng FQ..... napa-dyaryo pa yan.....nakaluklok sa pwesto sa ating gobyerno ang may pasimuno nyan....

    ngayon, kung hanggang ngayon eh nagpapatuloy pa yan eh.......:spider: :screwloose: dami pa rin palang nagaganso sa panahong ito....
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    October 20th, 2006 07:51 PM #23
    Isa ang tatay ko sa mga nagoyo dyan sa First Quadrant. Actually, hindi naman nagoyo dahil na-recover niya yung paunang "investment" niya na tinatawag nilang "membership fee". Ang kawawa eh yung mga na-recruit ng huli at wala ng ma-recruit pang iba. Hindi nila nabawi yung pera nila.

    Ang haba pa ng debate naming dalawa ng tatay ko dyan. Sabi ko sa kanya, yung mga taong sumasali sa First Quadrant kalimitan eh hindi naman interesado dun sa "merchandise" na binebenta nila. Interesado lang sila dun sa "commission payment" na binibigay kapag nakapag-recruit ka ng bagong biktima.

    Napanood ko pa yung VCD niyan. Ang gagaling magsalita nung mga speakers nila. Buti na lang hindi ako pumunta dun para mag-gate crash with my calculator to bust their "profit arithmetic", malamang binugbog ako nung mga goons nila.
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    October 20th, 2006 08:30 PM #24
    Hi!

    Dont be fooled by the word "MLM" because yun iba dyan sinasabi lng nila na MLM sila pero "pyramiding scheme" talaga ang format nila....

    Ako...if there's a membership money involved and u have a "cut" on the fee that they give....be VERRRYYYY afraid....although sinasabi nila na may "product" sila basta may element na may "cut" ka sa binabayad nilang membership fee...eh masyadong delikado.....kapag ganito ang format...in the long run ang bagsak ng organization eh pyramiding scam....

    there are legitimate MLM (but i wont say their name kasi baka ma-brand ako na kaya ako nagsasabi ng negative thing eh gusto ko lang mag-recruit)....
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    October 20th, 2006 09:38 PM #25
    Quote Originally Posted by EL Chicane View Post
    Napanood ko pa yung VCD niyan. Ang gagaling magsalita nung mga speakers nila. Buti na lang hindi ako pumunta dun para mag-gate crash with my calculator to bust their "profit arithmetic", malamang binugbog ako nung mga goons nila.
    Hindi na kelangan ng calculator, simple math lang... eto personal demo ko ng "sustainability of pyramid schemes".

    Assumption: To sustain the pyramid, each person must recruit. In our case, para simple, bawat isa sa kanila 10 ang recruit.

    TOP LEVEL
    1 recruits 10
    10 recruit 100
    100 recruit 1000
    1000 recruit 10k
    10k recruit 100k
    100k recruit 1M
    1M recruit 10M
    10M recruit 100M
    100M recruit 1B
    1B recruit... 10B? <-- unsustainable na, 6B lang tao sa mundo!
    BOTTOM LEVEL

    Talo na agad pyramid scheme natin at the 10th level! O diba?
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    October 20th, 2006 10:10 PM #26
    Nawala nadin yung isang MLM na madaming mayayabang na SUV hehe
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    October 20th, 2006 10:30 PM #27
    I pity those who were victimized by this racket. Ingat na lang sa susunod at huwag magpapabola at paloko.
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    October 21st, 2006 12:13 AM #28
    Yung iba kasi talagang sumasali sa scam hoping na tumubo muna sila bago mag-collapse. Swerte yung mga nauna. Yung kapitbahay namin nakabili ng kotse dahil lang dyan sa First Quadrant recruitment.
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    October 21st, 2006 12:45 AM #29
    Quote Originally Posted by taptap View Post
    Hi!

    Dont be fooled by the word "MLM" because yun iba dyan sinasabi lng nila na MLM sila pero "pyramiding scheme" talaga ang format nila....

    Ako...if there's a membership money involved and u have a "cut" on the fee that they give....be VERRRYYYY afraid....although sinasabi nila na may "product" sila basta may element na may "cut" ka sa binabayad nilang membership fee...eh masyadong delikado.....kapag ganito ang format...in the long run ang bagsak ng organization eh pyramiding scam....

    there are legitimate MLM (but i wont say their name kasi baka ma-brand ako na kaya ako nagsasabi ng negative thing eh gusto ko lang mag-recruit)....
    may mga tsikoteers yata tayo member ng MLM .
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    October 21st, 2006 01:43 AM #30
    Quote Originally Posted by theveed View Post
    Nawala nadin yung isang MLM na madaming mayayabang na SUV hehe
    Yung taga-Legacy for Life? Ooopppsss...
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    October 21st, 2006 02:12 AM #31
    Yun hehe... tumahimik na Garnett road since mid this year hehe.
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    October 21st, 2006 06:49 AM #32
    yung mga tiga-LEGACY meron na sila HQ sa ortigas home depot and they hang-out dyan sa steakout resto beside their HQ.

    ako para gusto ko sumali sa kanila, not for the money but to multi-level on connections. kahit x-deals lang ok na sa'kin. and I get to meet people from all walks of life.

    dito sa Gloria Jean's sa Gold's gym, andami din MLM dito nag-hangout usually kahit 12am na andun pa din sila with laptops to boot. before, parang nababawan ako sa kanila pero lately parang na-feel ko, I'm missing a lot. masarap din makipag-chat sa ibat ibang tao siguro. lalo na lately, pansin pa-***y ng pa-***y yun iba ni-recruit nila. puros mini-skirt and plunging necklines and nasa photographic memory ko of Gloria Jeans.
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    October 21st, 2006 08:16 AM #33
    See it's working already.






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    October 21st, 2006 08:27 AM #34
    Where in ORTIGAS HOME DEPOT is Legacy located? First Quadrant was putting up a building in the ORTIGAS HOME DEPOT compound, but didn't complete it. The building was foreclosed or something like that. From what I heard, it is now being converted to a call center or a call center's dormitory/residence.

    If First Quadrant is that good, then why did this happen to their building that was under construction?
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    October 21st, 2006 08:32 AM #35
    Showing off does not equal being good.








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    October 21st, 2006 08:55 AM #36
    eh yung lifestyle (may juice pa silang tinitinda) sarado na rin ba?
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    October 21st, 2006 09:36 AM #37
    pansinin nyo ang galaw ng pasimuno ng FQ...

    saturated na ang FQ w/ more or less 1M members worldwide, kaya naisip nilang ireformat to FQ Vitaplus, same old members need to re-invest 6999 to be an FQ Vitaplus member, pro d yata nag succeed...

    JC Martin was formed but later on become JC Spice (coined maybe from Spice Boys)

    Now, meron silang RSI (reals savers) na sabi ay kay cong Ricky Sandoval...

    still, they are trying to build another First Quadrant, ay sori, they are trying to make money as what they had in First Quadrant.

    People out there who want to try mlm, better not to. ive been a member of FQ, UCLA, LLI, TBC pero alang nangyari. hah, ang gaganda pa naman ng products namin!

    MLM is not an easy money, pag d ka gumalaw, alang mangyayari sayo. Dont believe on them na tutulungan ka, d totoo yun... but if you really feel na kaya mong trabahuin ang MLM with yourself and just a little or no help from uplines, napakasarap ng return nyan.

    its really true na may mga kumikita o kumita w/ MLM. pero ilan lang sila... yung nasa taas lang at magaling mag basketball (mambola)

    Power! Upline Power!
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    October 21st, 2006 09:43 AM #38
    Quote Originally Posted by alsosing View Post
    MLM is not an easy money, pag d ka gumalaw, alang mangyayari sayo. Dont believe on them na tutulungan ka, d totoo yun... but if you really feel na kaya mong trabahuin ang MLM with yourself and just a little or no help from uplines, napakasarap ng return nyan.

    its really true na may mga kumikita o kumita w/ MLM. pero ilan lang sila... yung nasa taas lang at magaling mag basketball (mambola)

    Power! Upline Power!
    So what then makes MLM different from any old traditional retailing business, aside from the stuff being (usually) more expensive (except for members) and your membership fee going to the uplines?
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    October 21st, 2006 09:58 AM #39
    vandruff.com/mlm <=== interesting read







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    October 21st, 2006 10:08 AM #40
    Nagpamember din ako dati sa MLM, nasilaw kasi ako sa auto ng kumausap sakin. Langya na hype ako kasi nga naman dating waiter naka BMW at gen 3 pajero. Kumita rin ako kahit papano pero ang problema nagsara(hindi FQ ha iba pa to). Yung reputasyon ko tuloy ang nasira sa ibang kakilala ko. Langya reputation=priceless! kaya parang wala din.

    Madami din ako nakilala na biglang yaman as in 500k to 800k per week ang income pero nung nagsara yung co. isa isang binenta yung mga property(Puro luxury cars at mansion) ngayon walang wala na. Dun ako nasasayangan kasi hindi nila ginamit yung pera wisely.
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