Filipino Traitors - as defined...

**Jun aka Pekto** · March 27th, 2007 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by uls

U think the govt doesnt protect local industry?

read this:

part 1 http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=55474

part 2 http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryID=55601

Well, at least the clothes will smell nice because of it. Too bad you can't eat it...... It's Gloria the labandera's best friend.

**mazdamazda** · March 27th, 2007 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto

Why can't the Philippines be more selective and protect a few key products like rice for example?

Actually the Philippines has been protecting its farmers by obtaining a much debated rice import limitation agreement with the WTO. The Philippines imports cheap rice from Vietnam / Pakistan but in return exports premium rice to 1st world countries.

The Philippines is having hard time catching up with its domestic requirements simply because of the surge of storms that have wreaked havoc on our farms not to mention pests. The new hybrid rice that is being used nationwide (and subsidized by the government) have already boosted rice production significantly and would ensure that the Philippines will be rice sufficient come 2012/2013 (which will also be aided by the completion of the new irrigation projects currently being undertaken).

**Jun aka Pekto** · March 27th, 2007 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by mazdamazda

Actually the Philippines has been protecting its farmers by obtaining a much debated rice import limitation agreement with the WTO. The Philippines imports cheap rice from Vietnam / Pakistan but in return exports premium rice to 1st world countries.

The Philippines is having hard time catching up with its domestic requirements simply because of the surge of storms that have wreaked havoc on our farms not to mention pests. The new hybrid rice that is being used nationwide (and subsidized by the government) have already boosted rice production significantly and would ensure that the Philippines will be rice sufficient come 2012/2013 (which will also be aided by the completion of the new irrigation projects currently being undertaken).

Ok. So the effects of the losses from those typhoons are still being felt then. Kind of sad though because the losses from those typhoons effectively put my brother-in-law out of business. We had to help buoy him (and his family) up until he established another business. My bad then for reacting to the Philippines importing rice.

If it's any comfort, it's that same "grown in the Philippines" premium rice my wife favors over any other.

**baker123** · March 27th, 2007 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by mazdamazda

I don't think that this piece or writing or that website is from an element of the military.

Compared to the other REAL patriotic & nationalistic groups within the military who are just espousing for clean governance & leadership (right leaning).

But the wordings and ideology of this writing leans too far to the left to be believed as coming from the military. Seems like some external elements wants to believe us or our soldiers that this group does exist. Phrases like "global interest", "massive layoffs", "free traders", "foreign ownership", etc. betrays the source of this write-up.

you're right sir.

masyadong magaling sumulat. hehehe

naging economist e.

**niky** · March 27th, 2007 06:31 PM

One side problem in rice-self-sufficiency is the leftist-militants teaming up with the Greenpeace junkies and sabotaging efforts to use genetically modified hybrid rice strains.

Now, I'm not saying that there would be absolutely no problems with using GM rice, but, come on... research and facts before crass sentimentality and overzealous paranoia.

Massive Lay-offs? Like those that have happened in numerous multi-national companies due to efforts by the KMU to create work stoppages? Many thanks to those kind people who have our people's best interests at heart. Lots of newly-christened "traitor-class" Filipinos (factory workers who attained middle-class status through high wages and benefits) are now "true" Filipinos again. :hysterical:

And this is as if it was all one way. Pity the poor Americans who lost jobs to Filipinos who were raking in the dough.

**uls** · March 30th, 2007 01:31 PM

Guess the govt wasnt able to protect Chemphil after all

from yesterday's news:

http://archive.inquirer.net/view.php...story_id=57619

**Alpha_One** · March 31st, 2007 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by mazdamazda

Actually the Philippines has been protecting its farmers by obtaining a much debated rice import limitation agreement with the WTO. The Philippines imports cheap rice from Vietnam / Pakistan but in return exports premium rice to 1st world countries.

How ironic.

Honestly, trade protectionism, globalization and whatnot is a moot point, from an economic standpoint. For the most part, they're really political issues with economic implications (take note the difference).

As for trade protectionism, for me Solita Monsod in her Economics 11 class couldn't have put it better. If she doesn't mind that I paraphrase her:

The only decent excuse I've heard for trade protectionism is the startup of infant industry. The problem is the infant industries need to grow up, but they often don't want to.

Re uls and survival of the fittest:

When a dad bails out his idiot son from some stupid act, the son gets away as if the stupid act never happened at the expense of the family (financial, legal, moral, whatever).

When the government bails out an industry from some stupid act, the said industry gets away as if the stupid act never happened - at the expense of everybody else.

Government should be an impartial referee who whistles upon a foul. NOT a dad who spoils his son by showering him with gifts AND bailing him out when he does something stupid.

If you can't play the game, if you aren't qualified to play the game, you don't deserve to be winning - especially not by default. Hence the survival of the fittest.

**oldblue** · April 1st, 2007 01:39 AM

i dont know ha, mahirap kung ang role lang ng govt. is to become a referee.

in most developed countries, their governments have some sort of provision to bail out a malfunctioning member of society. I think they give allowances pa nga for the citizen to get back on his/her feet.

in govt. - citizen relationship, there's no such person as not qualified.

kahit na taong grasa na hindi nag-contribute sa society, pag namatay sa kalsada, obligation pa din ng gobyerno na ilibing sya kung walang ibang maglilibing. hindi dahil, puwede magbigay ng disease ang bangkay niya dahil kakalat-kalat sa lansangan, kungdi dahil he is still human.

kung corporation ang maglilibing, the former reason will apply. bec. corporations are self-serving -> a characteristic of every man for himself or "survival of the fittest".

**LHV** · April 1st, 2007 01:49 AM

dati nung high school pa ako nakita ko sa diyaryo yung isang leftist, nasigaw siya ng " ibagsak ang imperyalistang kano " habang nakataas ang nakaposas niyang kamay na may sindi ng Marlboro na blue seal

**heightdeprived** · April 1st, 2007 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by uls

Haynako...

We live in a free market system... heck, we live in a free market world.

Why should our govt (or any govt) protect local businesses/industries if they are unable to adapt and compete with others in their field be it local or foreign.

If ur company cant produce something more efficiently... if ur company cant price its product competitively... if ur company cant simply compete, then it should die.

Dont go around complaining that ur competition is killing u and asking the govt to impose tarriffs on ur competitor's product to save ur ass.

Protectionism... nationalism... that's what causes world wars.

When people become way too nationalistic, resentment towards outsiders (foreigners) builds. That results in hatred.

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Survival of the fittest ang buhay sa mundo.

If u cant make it in this world (person or business), dont blame the govt. It isnt the govt's job to help u.

People acquire new skills that make them more money. If u fail to acquire those skills, who do u blame? the govt?

If other companies use high technology to manufacture better quality products faster and they can sell more cheaply that yours, who do u blame? the govt? And u also go ask the govt to harrass ur competitor?

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To the "Filipino Traitor" writer ----

Reality check dude, we dont live in La-La Land where someone will always save ur ass when u fail to make it.

We live in a jungle called the free market. Matira ang matibay,

So I think this reason justifies the existence of JDM scrap auctions here and there and the pack-up of current japanese automakers from the country to Thailand and mass lay-off of automaker plant employees...