eyeglass lens & frames

[dr. d]

tsikoteers,

sumaliksik kayo pag eyehealth. Kahit ano suot nyo glasses pero nagworsen pa eh sayang mga ginastos nyo.

Again dapat bumababa ang grado nyo sa mata

saan ba 'to gradweyt ?

[Mask Rider Blac]

mas sikat sya sa name na Transition lenses dati, brand pala yung transition parang pag toothpaste eh colgate tawag hehe.

pero pansin ko sa akin eh pag naka full tint windshield eh hindi halos nag d-dark kasi walang nag pe-penetrate the UV light sa windshield.

Thanks. Now I know brand pala ang transition hehe ito din gamit ko..

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[kagalingan]

the use of glasses does not decrease one's grade of the eyes. neither does it guarantee that one's grade will be arrested as time passes.
from what i remember from lectures several decades old, only surgery may significantly lower one's eye grade.

many of our local eye doctors are world-class.

having seen doctors work and train abroad, i can say with straight face,
"foreign doctors do not hold the patent to quality. neither does the pilipino have exclusive rights to stupidity."
perhaps the only advantage the foreign, i.e., US, doctors, have, over us, is their seeming widespread technology.

apologies for the strong words.
i feel strongly, kasi.

doc ill give you an example.

Nung napuntahan ko yung endmyopia.org = napaisip ako ang dami optical shop sa pinas pero pataas ng pataas grado mas lalo pa nasira mata sa prescription glasses. But to summarize = yung grade dapat hindi exacto but less than 0.25 to make the eyes relearn to see hangang magimprove pababa ng pababa.

tapos lastweek bigla ko narecall 20years ago or more pa yung optometrist ko sabi pag nasa bahay ako eh i should use my right eye more para hindi puro left nagdadala. Kasi malabo kanang-mata ko kung ikumpara sa kaliwa. At that time hindi ko pinansin kasi priority ko mambabae at nagimprove naman astigmatism ko sabi ni dr. Bwenas ako sa optometrist na yun.

So ngayon narecall ko na
napapaisip na bumili ng eyepatch para maexercise left eye. Pati sa knowledge na nakuha ko sa endmyopia eh itatry ko.

Bale last ko nagsuot glasses year 2007 ata. Ngayon kailangan ko na dahil lumalabo kakasmartphone. Dati pa ako hesitant gumamit smartphone kasi nga ang liit. Kaso nadale ng datingsite videocall.

Remember nung kabataan "wag manuod malapit sa tv dahil lalabo mata." Ayan nagbago na mundo as in nakadikit na talaga sa mukha.

Kaya i need to be precise sa magiging grado para hindi magworsen. Kasi lahat kausap ko as in pataas ng pataas para makakita.

[kagalingan]

oh ito sa facebook group

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endmyopia official

jon khaykin
1d

3 years of myopia progression reversed in 6 months!

I have attached my scripts since 2018 and you can see every year, my prescription has gone up. Well, for the first time ever, it went down! I couldn't believe it. My current script is what I was prescribed in 2019!

I discovered EndMyopia about one year ago and started more carefully following it January this year.

What I did:
I had kept my 2018 prescription every year since my optometrist said the changes weren't too much (love my opto). So when I discovered EM, I used that (R: -2 L:-2/-0.25) as my baseline. I tried to go without differentials but realized my eyes were straining so I started with R: -1 L:-1/-0.25 (worked best for me). After that, I got a pair of normalized at R: -1.75 L:-1.75/-0.25.

I don't do much active focus but try to most days even just for 5 minutes (not even sure I have quite figured out active focus lol). I am a software engineer which means 8+ hours of screen time so I ensure the text on the screen is big enough and try to take 5 minute distance vision breaks every 30 minutes. When using my phone, I do not wear any glasses.

I could be A LOT more disciplined with my EM and probably get gains faster but I am happy with my progress and how my eyes feel.

Let me know if you have any questions, happy to help if I can!
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[kagalingan]

comments comments

Kirti you should be using your normalized any time you need to do distance vision.
I also highly recommend getting light in your eyes in the morning/early afternoon and potentially wearing your normalized while doing distance vision (either on a walk or just staring far away at things)

anni lee
Jon Khaykin what's the function of getting light in your eyes? I usually wear a glass with coat when i get out, the sunlight is too bright for me, it usually make my eyes feel sour

jon klaykin
Anni Lee there is research showing that sunlight exposure can help with myopia prevention/reduction. If you do a Google search for "sunlight myopia", you can see some of the research
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[dr. d]

doc ill give you an example.

Nung napuntahan ko yung endmyopia.org = napaisip ako ang dami optical shop sa pinas pero pataas ng pataas grado mas lalo pa nasira mata sa prescription glasses. But to summarize = yung grade dapat hindi exacto but less than 0.25 to make the eyes relearn to see hangang magimprove pababa ng pababa.

tapos lastweek bigla ko narecall 20years ago or more pa yung optometrist ko sabi pag nasa bahay ako eh i should use my right eye more para hindi puro left nagdadala. Kasi malabo kanang-mata ko kung ikumpara sa kaliwa. At that time hindi ko pinansin kasi priority ko mambabae at nagimprove naman astigmatism ko sabi ni dr. Bwenas ako sa optometrist na yun.

So ngayon narecall ko na
napapaisip na bumili ng eyepatch para maexercise left eye. Pati sa knowledge na nakuha ko sa endmyopia eh itatry ko.

Bale last ko nagsuot glasses year 2007 ata. Ngayon kailangan ko na dahil lumalabo kakasmartphone. Dati pa ako hesitant gumamit smartphone kasi nga ang liit. Kaso nadale ng datingsite videocall.

Remember nung kabataan "wag manuod malapit sa tv dahil lalabo mata." Ayan nagbago na mundo as in nakadikit na talaga sa mukha.

Kaya i need to be precise sa magiging grado para hindi magworsen. Kasi lahat kausap ko as in pataas ng pataas para makakita.

my one-word response:
HAHAHAHAHA!!!

kags,
you certainly outdid yourself this time.

[kagalingan]

nahihirapan pa ako intindihin ito

kailangan ko magkaroon kakilala optometrist.

Here's my takeaway from Endmyopia, this sums up probably the entire site!

HOW EYESIGHT BECOMES BAD

Close up=Hyperopic Defocus

Excess Close Up(Hyperopic Defocus)+ Lack of Exposure to Sunlight(Reduced Dopamine levels)= Eye Strain

Excessive close up= close up strain
Close up strain+Lack of Sunlight+Insufficient Usage of distance vision=Eye strain

Short term eye strain=Pseudo myopia (Cillary muscle spasms)

Long term eye strain=Myopia (Axial Elongation)

PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE

Why not wearing spectacles is bad:
-No usable distance of clear vision
-No blur horizon to challenge eye

Passive under correction:
-Blur adaption in visual cortex that have to unlearn
-Bad posture, depression, excessive strain on eyes, visual cortex undermined

Don't monkey with lens:
-Confuse eyes and visual cortex in assuring focal plane change
-You want adaptation for reducing diopters

HOW TO REHABILITATE:

1. CILLARY STRAIN AWARENESS
-Put a sign and look at it before & after close up

-Frequent breaks: Every 20-30 mins of close work, do 1-5 mins of distant gazing/tracing

-Making this a habit

2. CENTIMETRE MEASUREMENTS
-Eye tracking for progress measurement

3. DIFFERENTIAL GLASSES
-Blur horizon at 50cm
-active focus
D1: Edge of clear vision
D2: Some blur/double vision
D3: Edge of readability
Spend time between D1-D2

4. NORMALISED GLASSES
-Blur > double vision > clear > reduce prescription
-repeat until you reach 1-2 diopters

[dr. d]

nahihirapan pa ako intindihin ito

kailangan ko magkaroon kakilala optometrist.

you are actually posting things you do not understand, and want your viewers to believe it?

[kagalingan]

yes doc kasi = result ang importante. Ang naintindihan ko.yung basic na wag mataas ang grado.

naconfuse ako sa terms eh alam mo naman ako kung pwede pasimplehin eh doon dapat.

Gaya nung kay ray peat nung una hirap din ako pero eventually nakuha ko din though not blinded ah. I tweak.

Hindi ko strength ang cognitive im more application type the feel for the game ung gut feel ko.

[WallyWest]

Wag na lang kaya mag-salamin ang mga malalabo ang mata? Let natural selection take its course. For sure, we'd all die off due to accidents. Pag nawala na sa gene pool ang mga myopic, we would have eradicated myopia.

/s

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[kagalingan]

kailangan pa din magsalamin pero not exact grade at iba pag lalabas bahay at magbabasa.

And naintriga ako doon sa advice na tumingin lagi sa malayo and sunlight yung maexpose but not magpasilaw magpaluha. Kaya pala mga fisherman malilinaw eyes kasi field of vision nila endless ang lawak lagi nakikita.

check nyo endmyopia may sarili website at facebook yan and talaga nagiimprove mababasa mo.

Maghahanap ako ng kukulitin ko na optometrist. Yung student or kakagraduate pa lang para malawak pagiisip.

[papi smith]

Just bought a new pair for 4.7k, 4k for the lens and 700 for the frame. Frame should have been 2.5k but the lens was to thin to be fitted on it, nakatipid pa tuloy pag pili ng iba

[oj88]

Does anyone have eyeglasses specific for computer use? And I don't mean those "blue filter" BS... but rather actual prescription glasses that corrects vision and is good up to an arm's length or so distance. Like reading glasses but calibrated for maybe around twice the distance from your eyes.

[papi smith]

Doesn't progressive do that for you? I think that can be done pero hassle if you have to look far or near and it's woozy.

BS lang ba ang blue filter? Kasi I had it as an add on kasi plus 500 lang naman.

[dr. d]

Does anyone have eyeglasses specific for computer use? And I don't mean those "blue filter" BS... but rather actual prescription glasses that corrects vision and is good up to an arm's length or so distance. Like reading glasses but calibrated for maybe around twice the distance from your eyes.

when i have my eyes refracted, i specifically ask the optometrist to set me up for computer use.
the printed material that i read is not the usual newspaper-close to my eyes, but much farther, as how far the usual tabletop computer monitor is.
it's easy to do for the optometrist, naman. and cost is the same as the usual lenses.
some optometrists even ask, "pang-diaryo ba, o pang-computer?"

in the doble-vistas i have, i even ask the optometrist to increase the area of the reading lens. tinataas niya yung location, so's i can more easily do computer work.

kung pareho ang grado ng left and right eyes ninyo, you can purchase the cheap ready-made reading lenses in the convenience stores.
sukatin ninyo kung anong grade ang bagay for computer work.
it's as easy as trying on one grado after another, until one gets comfortable reading that monitor.
or, you can ask the optometrist to determine your eyes' reading grado, and that is what you get from the convenience store.
my colleague always misplaces her reading glasses. so she went to divisoria and purchased a dozen of those cheap gafas. if she misplaces one, she simply pulls out a replacement from her bag.

my left and right eyes have different grados, so i can't use ready-made.
... buy the two sets with two grados and do some lens transplant? hmmm... thinking about it.

[papi smith]

when i have my eyes refracted, i specifically ask the optometrist to set me up for computer use.
the printed material that i read is not the usual newspaper-close to my eyes, but much farther, as how far the usual tabletop computer monitor is.
it's easy to do for the optometrist, naman. and cost is the same as the usual lenses.
some optometrists even ask, "pang-diaryo ba, o pang-computer?"

in the doble-vistas i have, i even ask the optometrist to increase the area of the reading lens. tinataas niya yung location, so's i can more easily do computer work.

kung pareho ang grado ng left and right eyes ninyo, you can purchase the cheap ready-made reading lenses in the convenience stores.
sukatin ninyo kung anong grade ang bagay for computer work.
it's as easy as trying on one grado after another, until one gets comfortable reading that monitor.
or, you can ask the optometrist to determine your eyes' reading grado, and that is what you get from the convenience store.
my colleague always misplaces her reading glasses. so she went to divisoria and purchased a dozen of those cheap gafas. if she misplaces one, she simply pulls out a replacement from her bag.

my left and right eyes have different grados, so i can't use ready-made.
... buy the two sets with two grados and do some lens transplant? hmmm... thinking about it.

I'll try this also, baka pwede nga, I'll just pick the cheapest eyeglass package which is 750 kesos.

[oj88]

I do have progressive lenses but I also have at least 2 or 3 large monitors in front of me. I often have to remove my glasses because the constant head movement with the progressive is seriously taxing. In fact, it feels so much better without them when using the computer... even though I had to use the zoom function to read smaller texts occasionally. But at least I can move my eyeballs freely without distortion in my peripheral vision.

So I believe I will have to get fixed-grade eyeglasses for computer use only. Maybe those buy 1, take 1 is the ticket.

[dr. d]

some folks are blessed, in that the grado of their eyes is perfect for their selected activities.
for example, my ophtha prescribes lenses for me, for my computer monitor activities, as well as for driving. i don't need reading glasses for the newspapers.

[Walter]

Does anyone have eyeglasses specific for computer use? And I don't mean those "blue filter" BS... but rather actual prescription glasses that corrects vision and is good up to an arm's length or so distance. Like reading glasses but calibrated for maybe around twice the distance from your eyes.

Have them ... zero grade ... just to correct slight astigmatism ... works well ... less eye fatigue and dizziness (after hours of using computer) ...

[kagalingan]

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Positive Update:
I started EndMyopia in February 2021, so its been 1 year and 3 months. My November 2020 optometrist visit measured my prescription at -3.25 Left / -2.25 Right. My first centimeter measurements were 40cm (-2.50) Left / 58cm (-1.75) Right, so I believe I was way overcorrected. For the most part, I have been pretty diligent in following EndMyopia; however, like most people, I have had my slip ups, periods of back to old habits of staring at my phone for too long, and also having to contend with a 8-5 computer job and life getting busy. Although even when I fell backwards, and even with the hurdles, I pushed myself to not give up and get back on track and incorporate good habits whenever and wherever I could.
I am now measuring 60cm Left / 100cm Right and wearing normalized lenses at -1.75 Left / -.75 Right and I am absolutely thrilled and amazed at my progress and that I can see very well with these. I am soon to order another pair of normalized to equalize and will lower my left eye only by another -.25. I am waiting for another month before I get optometrist confirmation just to get some good use of the summer sun and to solidify my progress. Just wanted to share that this works and don't give up.

I will be back in a month to post my optometrist confirmed prescription improvement.