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    #301
    Quote Originally Posted by claRkEnt View Post
    paikot-ikot na ginagawa nila! pinanindigan na yung diesel-methane theory! laughing stock na naman ang Pinoy. Tapos pag nabanggit sa American TV series, mag-protesta!
    mas pagtatawanan tayo kung sariling gobyerno natin ang itinuturing suspek sa pagsabog. lol.


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    #302
    I'm not an expert, but if it's an explosion caused by methane shouldn't there be some fire involved?

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    #303
    Have heard in the news today that the Diesel tank seems to be the culprit. I cannot understand how where they able to come up with the conclusion. In any case, only a clear and proper understanding of the facts at hand can lead us to the 'real' cause of the explosion.

    It would be disheartening to know if indeed it was really an accident and not a bomb. I suspect that the engineers behind the design and construction of the mall are incompetent. Along with the local government officials who have approved the construction of the building.

    Was'nt it not to long ago that we had a bridge collapsing...vehicles falling down from skyway...buildings without fire escapes...kids falling down from rides...etc..etc..all of these are brought about by poor design, engineering and implementation of standards (or lack of).

    Its quite appaling to know that this incidents have claimed innocent lives.

    Since there is a possibility of methane gas to be present in the basement area...there should be Gas Detectors installed and functioning. Electrical devices should be intrinsically safe or ex-proof. Proper venting and dilution can prevent methane gas to accumulate up to it Lower Explosive Limit.

    Presence of a Diesel tank should be accompanied with all the safety systems like smoke detectors, deluge systems, foam extinguishing media, earth grounding etc.

    I do hope that at least some of the safety measures I mentioned are available sa G2. Hay naku...

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    #304
    IMO, if the diesel-methane explosion theory is indeed true, the liability should fall on the property managers of Glorietta 2 rather than the designers. It is the responsibility of the property managers to ensure that the facility is safe, and part of their work as the building operator is to install the necessary safety devices on high-risk areas.

    I just hope they solve this soon.

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    #305
    They seem to be sticking to the dieslel-methane theory and that it was an industrial accident. Sa totoo lang, following their announcements from the start, this conclusion appears very dubious. Normally, that would be maintained by an ALI engineering group. Mataas standards ng mga yan. They can't help but be so because they know the technical specifications. Now, ALI is protesting such a conclusion.

    It looks like they tried to point it at the RSM, but it did not work. If it was a terrorist attack, there would have been a demand right after the incident. Announcements of the presence of traces of C4 have been retracted. It appears now that since the terrorist attack theory is not credible, they are pinning the blame on Ayala Management.

    Something really seems fishy. Baka nga may alam itong si Trillanes...

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    #306
    Quote Originally Posted by A121 View Post
    mas pagtatawanan tayo kung sariling gobyerno natin ang itinuturing suspek sa pagsabog. lol.

    so para di tayo pagtawanan, it is alright to present a whitewashed investigation ??? (although it clearly doesnt look white).

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    #307
    Let's just wait and see.. I'm glad that this hasn't affected the peso-dollar exchange rate.. Too bad that all the commodities are still rising considering the stand of the peso-dollar exchange rates are good.

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    #308
    i believe the methane from septic tank blowing off was already busted by mythbusters....

    yes it exploded but you have to contain the gas and put pressure on it just to make it explode and it created fire when it exploded....

    I do believe that it is a bomb that exploded....

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    #309
    Quote Originally Posted by claRkEnt View Post
    so para di tayo pagtawanan, it is alright to present a whitewashed investigation ??? (although it clearly doesnt look white).
    yan ang sinabi mo.

    wala akong sinabi ukol sa whitewashed investigation or am i agreeing to a government cover-up, if ever there is.



    note: i am just using this as an example and i am not implying that the glorietta blast as a terrorist attack.

    nung nagkaroon ng terrorist attack sa new york, lahat sila nag-unite against sa may pakana nun. tas wala ka man lang marinig na sumisi sa gobyerno nila.

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    #310
    Balita daw sirit na ang pulis, blame Ayala.

    It looks like a bomb blast, but no trace of it. Either SOCO botched the job, or the bomber is so damn brilliant, ala Hannibal Lector with ordnance background.

    Some of the gov't officials referred this blast similar to that gas leak blast in Mexico. I watched the investigation in Nat'l Geographic. The investigators searched long, deep, and hard...and finally pinpointed the cause by the gas utility firm.

    At first, todo tanggi pa yung gas firm. In the end, they accepted the responsibility as the investigators presented hard proof.

    Buti pa sila, they know exactly what happened. Dito, MAYBE pa lang. Talo

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