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    Seems that the ASEAN is wants to expand to an economic bloc to compete with the EU & US. I've read in the papers that PGMA was one of the proponents of this superbody.

    This will also give us access to the emerging China market.

    ASEAN approves talks with Japan

    Tuesday, November 30, 2004 Posted: 0539 GMT (1339 HKT)

    VIENTIANE, Laos -- A day after reaching a deal with China in a bid to create the world's largest free trade zone, the leaders of 10 Southeast Asian nations have approved free trade talks with Japan.

    The Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) also pledged to boost ties with India, Australia and New Zealand on day two of their summit in the capital of Laos, Vientiane.

    On Monday they agreed to create an open market of two billion people by 2010 to compete with Europe and the United States.

    The pact between regional giant China and the 10 nations aims to drop most tariffs over the next five years in a move some analysts have said is a sign Beijing may be moving to undercut America's vast economic influence over the region.

    On Tuesday, leaders of the ASEAN group agreed with Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi to start trade talks in April, with the aim of wrapping them up in two years.

    The talks would center on how to cut tariffs between the world's second largest economy and ASEAN nations.

    Also attending the 10th summit are the leaders of China, Japan, South Korea, India, Australia and New Zealand. It is the first time Australia and New Zealand have been invited to the event.

    CNN correspondent Aneesh Raman said ASEAN "wants to an economic structure similar to that of the European Union."

    While the main focus on the summit is regional economic cooperation, there are political issues simmering beneath the surface.

    Myanmar was given early prominence by Thailand's Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who will meet Myanmar's Foreign Minister Nyan Win on Tuesday for a working breakfast, Reuters reports.

    Thaksin wants ASEAN leaders to address the lack of progress in political reform by Yangon -- a continual source of embarrassment for the association, officials said.

    "Prime Minister Thaksin will suggest at the summit that ASEAN leaders should have an informal discussion on Myanmar to learn about the latest situation there ... But that request would need to be agreed upon by Myanmar," Reuters reported chief Thai spokesman Jakrapob Penkair as saying.

    Many of ASEAN's other members -- including Malaysia, Singapore and the Philippines -- have criticized some of Myanmar's actions, especially the detention of opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi.

    Discussion of internal political issues among ASEAN members is a touchy subject with leaders generally confining themselves to less contentious economic and trade issues.

    Last week, Thaksin had threatened to walk out of the ASEAN summit if the issue of Muslim unrest in Thailand's south was raised.

    ASEAN groups Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam.

  2. Join Date
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    Kung matutuloy yan, it will be the biggest. Just imagine China and India, two of the most populated countries in the world

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    That would be both good and bad for us... The Philippines could assume a more major role in automotive manufacture, but other industries may suffer...

    either way, creating a superbloc in Asia will give the ASEAN as a whole a lot more influence than it has now...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    lmao - ASEAN wants powerhouses China, Japan and India to join it? a true case of the tail wagging the dog if i ever saw one.

    at the very least it should change its name if it ever happens...

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    Originally posted by M54 Powered
    lmao - ASEAN wants powerhouses China, Japan and India to join it? a true case of the tail wagging the dog if i ever saw one.

    at the very least it should change its name if it ever happens...
    not join it... but to form a new coalition... sort of an APEC without the Americas....

    China, Japan & India singularly can't still compete with the EU & US. but with the SEA nations and even Oceania, they will sure have a lot of clout by then. especially against the overprotective tariffs of the EU & US for their heavily subsidized agri products.

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    i'm for this IMHO..expanded oppurtunities, expanded trades, expanded horizons, expanded hopes & aspirations..other economic blocs wont have no choice but toe the line..

    padiscount naman round trip for 4 sa beijing olympics, oh..

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    ASEAN becoming like EU, an intergovernmental body at the same time an international organization ("sui generis") is not possible because ASEAN is under WTO...

    hindi ako pessimistic, gusto ko rin sana kaso hindi talaga pwede eh... akala ko din dati pwede, pero sabi nun ambassador ko na prof hindi daw possible yun, kasi mag go against yun sa WTO treaty nun 1992...

    the planning of EU was decades in the making, starting from the treaty of rome in 1957, with just 6 member states creating the European Economic Community or the EEC, which evolved to EURATOM, EMU, ECSB, and realized through the Single European Act of 1986, the Delors Package of 1989, Maastricht Treaty of 1992, Amsterdam Treaty of 1996/7... Pinayagan ng WTO ang EU na maging isang single block since it is not under the WTO treaty of 1992 since as early as 1957 eh nag-give up na ang EU nations ng kanilang sovereignty regarding the coal and steel industry na unti-unti ay pag-give up sa buong economy ng bansa at pag-form ng customs union na naguniform ng foreign and customs policy nila... ang ASEAN hindi na ito pwede gawin dahil hindi nila ito inumpisahan before 1992...

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    regarding sa pag-join ng south korea, japan, and china... semi-kasali na sila...

    kaya nga ASEAN 10 + 3 ang tawag... parang EU's 15 + 10...

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    last pahabol... about sa customs union, as far as i can remember, pwedeng i-abolish ang tariffs within the region pero for a certain time lang, parang policy or agreement with another nation, pero hindi tulad ng EU... pero ngayon naman hindi na natin kailangan ng visa diba?

Expanded ASEAN