Eight Reasons Why ‘Global Warming’ Is a Scam

[ghosthunter]

Heard from the news that if there is a severe winter this year, world oil prices will go up. A mild winter can mean either a stable oil price or we can even see prices go down as demand is down.

Realistic natural global warming scenarios have projected milder winters and wider warmer regions. Historical past global warming trends have resulted in improvements in the economic prosperity.

Conspiracy mode on... So does that mean the oil cartel is working hand-in-hand with the "green movement" groups prevent another global warming trend because it would result in lower global demand for their product? If the green-movement can be "successful" it would mean cooler summers and harsher winters leading to increased oil demand for heating and power. This increased demand would result in driving the price of oil higher and higher.

Wow! ... this global threat of the oil price conspiracy is really devious!

[ghosthunter]

just my opinion, assuming it is a hoax...would you encourage
1) the use of non-biodegradable plastics
4) dumping of waste in the common water ways (no waste water treatment)
etc...

In what way does "global warming" have to do with the stuff above?

1) the use of non-biodegradable plastics

Even bio-degradable plastics do not degrade unless they are exposed to air and sunlight. Getting buried in a deep hole doesn't let the microbes start the bio-degrading process.

Recycling is a better option because you don't have to produce as much more raw material YET even that solution is flawed because even the act of recycling often doesn't pay for itself, it much be financed by the government to keep it going. And in some cases, it produces more CO2 than simply burying it in a landfill.

Just remember that green solutions & materials are often costs more to use. In the end, we pay for it in more expensive products and services.

2) unlawfull cutting of trees

Trees are more important to control erosion on land and to create the proper habitat for wildlife. A large portion of the oxygen we breath actually comes from the algae in the oceans.

And why just stop at the unlawful cutting of trees?... Why not simply call for the total stop in the cutting of natural growth trees and forests. Shouldn't that be much much better and even more "green"?

3)smoke belchers

In what way is this have to do with the discussion? It is like saying if you are a pro-life supporter, you support in having a convicted murderer bound for a death sentence released from prison.

Current "global warming" is heavily based on CO2 production. Unfortunately humans are only responsible for a fraction of the global greenhouse gas production. Other major greenhouse gas producers are: cows, volcanoes, natural forest & grass fires, decomposition of organic matter, and even the ocean itself.

are you in for all these stuff na alam naman natin nakakasira rin ng tao (in the long run)...

I guess if you are a pro-choice supporter, you are also considered a murderer then?

personally hindi ako papayag... I would rather embrace the "global warming scare" HOPING to make things better in the future.

Better future for who? Using the reasons of the global warming scare, the 1st world countries are preventing developing nations from using some naturally available cheaper sources of fuel to generate power. They force developing nations to adapt so-called "renewable" green power sources which only delivers a trickle of power for the money spent on it. These are countries who can barely afford to feed & shelter their population, much less able to afford expensive "green" technology.

Why not let those first world countries lead in adapting on a wide scale green & renewable technologies? Stop forcing developing nations to use green technology if it doesn't fit their requirements.

Example: a village clinic had a solar power system installed to light up the clinic and power a fridge to keep it's medicines from spoiling. Yet the problem is the system is not enough to keep both the lights and fridge going, either just the lights or the fridge. The clinic ends up using the lights and letting the fridge go used.

[scharnhorst]

Better future for who? Using the reasons of the global warming scare, the 1st world countries are preventing developing nations from using some naturally available cheaper sources of fuel to generate power.

Good point. It never occurred to me that environmental concerns could be used as a tool for oppression. It's just so easy to target the smog-covered cities of developing countries.

But I still believe that humanity, on the whole, should still cut down on pollution for health, sanitary, and environmental concerns.

[Gerbo]

Warming and Cooling cycles are natural... what we're ooncerned with is whether the contribution of human activity is enough to tilt that cycle in a direction that's disadvantageous to us.

There's a certain elasticity and resilience to the biosphere... one which allows it to recover after extremely hot or cold spells. But human activity has reduced the variety of Earth's biota... including a huge portion of it which acts to regulate planetary climate.

The question is... will the combination of the reduced ability of the biosphere to influence global temperature, along with man's increased ability along the same lines, lead to a situation from which recovery becomes problematic?

Exactly..and well said.

[valvura]

Conspiracy mode on... So does that mean the oil cartel is working hand-in-hand with the "green movement" groups prevent another global warming trend because it would result in lower global demand for their product? If the green-movement can be "successful" it would mean cooler summers and harsher winters leading to increased oil demand for heating and power. This increased demand would result in driving the price of oil higher and higher.

Wow! ... this global threat of the oil price conspiracy is really devious!

Well, the so called "green movement" or Greenpeace or other UN resolutions on climate change, etc. seems to be encroaching on the sovereignty of every country particularly developing and poor countries, by giving sanctions e.g. as condition in multilateral loans, grants or aid. These 'movements' are financed by blood money and to keep their lifeline going, they have to arrive at "issues" against humanity...

Conspiracy mode OFF...Peace!

[valvura]

I really appreciate the exchanges of ideas here 'coz it's very informative and entertaining.
There are advocates saying that if global warming is prevented as in controlling CO2 emissions, we are in effect, accelerating the earth's cycle in moving to another ice-age, in my own layman's perception. We are currently in the peak of the about 100,000 years warm cycle. Bombarding the atmosphere with CO2 is healthy (daw) to maintain the warmth compaired to a chilling icy environment (green house vs ice house).
Hoping the ff. link is credible enough:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age

[valvura]

I really appreciate the exchanges of ideas here 'coz it's very informative and entertaining.
There are advocates saying that if global warming is prevented as in controlling CO2 emissions, we are in effect, accelerating the earth's cycle in moving to another ice-age, in my own layman's perception. Bombarding the atmosphere with CO2 is healthy (daw) to maintain the warmth compaired to a chilling icy environment (green house vs ice house).
Hoping the ff. link to be credible enough:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age

[JiggeR671]

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theres some people already making money out of this global warming thing.. there are some websites you can buy eco credit out of your eco guilt.. this sound like a good business..hehe.. pls watch video....

[ghosthunter]

Help keep oil prices low! Oil prices go up when there is a major demand for heating fuel in the northern countries experiencing severe cold winters. Contribute your share of greenhouse gasses to help maintain mild winter temperatures. hehehe!

[valvura]

theres some people already making money out of this global warming thing.. there are some websites you can buy eco credit out of your eco guilt.. this sound like a good business..hehe.. pls watch video....

LOL...so who's stupid?...

[wildthing]

.... Contribute your share of greenhouse gasses to help maintain mild winter temperatures. hehehe!

Pardon my sarcasm, but I think this type of thinking is more **u*** than claiming that "Global Warming Is a Scam"

Not to offend you... pero nawala bilib ko sa iyo... from a rating of 10, now its down to nothing...

[ghosthunter]

Pardon my sarcasm, but I think this type of thinking is more **u*** than claiming that "Global Warming Is a Scam"

Not to offend you... pero nawala bilib ko sa iyo... from a rating of 10, now its down to nothing...

Too bad for you for taking a joke too seriously.

[valvura]

Everybody is entitled to his own opinion. Since there are 2 groups of scientists with differing stands, only time can tell which one is right and we're talking of tens of thousands of years here, even longer than all of human history...Peace

[niky]

Too bad for you for taking a joke too seriously.

And you for taking a joke too far... :hysterical: ?

There's an interesting point Penn and Teller bring up... carbon credits...

That particular invention, personally, IS complete B***S***. Pollute all you want, just buy carbon credits and cleanse yourself of guilt? Stupid... Why not just save the money and practice more efficient production, instead?

I guess one of the big problems with "Global Warming" is all of the overinflated hyperbole coming out of the politicians and radicals about their doomsday scenario... a doomsday scenario that the media like to parrot over and over again just to generate revenue for their publications.

[v6dreamer]

I have a good Idea. Why not call our selve's a TSIKOTER'S SCIENTIST !

Facts and Theories are categorically different types of propositions. One can never graduate into the other. Me, you are probably not really capable of understanding the distinction,(perhaps in time) so let talk more w/o degrading others input....lets read and understand every knowledge of our fellow TSIKOTERS SCIENTIST base upon their observation here.

[e-bundok]

saw this old thread and it reminded me of two relatively recent environmentally-themed project proposals with international funding that i was asked to review re feasibility/profitability. there was a cashflow provision for carbon credits which translates to significant profits starting at the 10th year to last until the life of the project. for the life of me, hindi ko mawari how said carbon credits will convert to cash and if funding agency will actually live true to its word in awarding said rewards for contribution to humanity in tangible value.

[light2light]

there is a group of scientists that believe in GW. another group disproves this. there are two sides of a coin.

AFAIMC, i saw the pasig river in the '60s. kulay brown na ang tubig pero pwede pang paliguan, at walang amoy pusali. ngayon, halos di mo na malapitan ang ilog dahil iba na ang 'halimuyak'. this is because human activities in the city had polluted the river.

GW or not, we should strive to keep the city clean. hindi ba maganda kung makita natin ang ilog na maraming isda; na hindi nakakalason ang tubig?
the clean air act helped in reducing the smog along edsa. sana maibalik ang dating ganda ng metro manila. let the scientist decide among themselves if GW is an issue or not. Manilans deserve a clean environment.