[Edit] Pedestrians or Motorists: Who's liable?

[niky]

To eliminate options... If I'm driving behind a guy at 60 km/h, I'm usually two or three car lengths behind him, and looking ahead of him (if you can't see around him, you're too close)... I usually brake before the guy in front of me does when there's trouble.

You'll never find me travelling beside anyone at 60 km/h. Pacing the vehicle next to you is a stupid and dangerous habit I see too much of in the Philippines.

So, I could only be the guy right in front of the guy. I would try to avoid the guy at all costs. Any of us in any of the vehicles has a decent chance of surviving a fender bender... he doesn't.

I've been driving on C5 since it opened. So far, my record there is spotless. (though I've had my share of scrapes elsewhere) No matter how fast you're going, it's your solemn duty to scan the road ahead for obstacles/pedestrians. If you don't see them coming, you're going too fast and not looking. I've had my share of close calls, yes, but I've never hit a man, child or animal (well, not a breathing animal).

I don't like the idea of paying through the nose for someone else's stupidity, but I consider it fair, if I've killed or injured someone, to help that person or their family, even if I'm not at fault.

That's what we did for a girl my brother hit (ran out in front of him in a parking lot... parents did not press charges because they considered themselves at fault, but we paid for her therapy (broken femur)).

In this country, if it's an accident, no jail time results. The most you can get is a hefty fine. I've seen this in two or three cases, even where it was obvious the guy driving was going way over the speed limit (try 140 km/h)... I don't see this law as changing much. Even if the victims were to press charges, the judge would throw it out anyway if they were shown to be jaywalking.

At least now, they can't even threaten to press charges. but it's still a matter of honor, I believe, for you to offer help of some kind for the injured/deceased. It's the human thing to do.

Your car is insured. The worst that can happen to you is a participation fee.
What's the comparison between property and life? Is the former worth more than the latter?

What's the price of a life?

[niky]

*oldblue: good point.

[niky]

*oldblue: good point. Naranasan ko na rin yan. But I'm pretty sure mas traumatic yung sa inyo.

[oldblue]

*niky, thanks. what happened sa'yo?

[niky]

*oldblue: good point. tama ka. usually you only have time to brake, swerve and pray. naranasan ko rin ang ganung klaseng shock, but I can't imagine how much worse yours was.

[nugundam93]

Lets say that u are driving at say 60 kph on the highway without any pedestrian crossing... suddenly u see someone cross and u know u will hit him will you

a. slowdown and pray that the impact won't kill him

-choice ko ito if pajero dala ko. no ABS eh. i'll be causing a bigger chain accident if the pajero loses control as well.

b. press hard on ur brakes and pray it won't hit him and that the car or the truck running at 60 kph behind you won't hit you too hard that may cause you to hit the jaywalker and injure yourself.

-if dala ko outlander with ABS.

c. swerve to the vehicle to your right or left?

-no swerving. at that speed, sh1t can happen na, you can cause a bigger accident.

now please change shoes... what if you are that stupid *$$h0le jaywalker. what will you do?

-pray na lang that i survive. our actions will always have consequences.

now change again what if you are driving at 60 kph behind the vehicle who is about to hit the jaywalker. having not enough room to come to a full stop you hit the vehicle causing either to hit the jaywalker infront which would not have been hit or adding damage to the hit jaywalker or worst running over.

-won't happen with me. at that speed, i ALWAYS give a 2 second margin.

and lastly what if you are the one driving at 60 kph on either side of the vehicle about to hit the jaywalker? how would you feel if the driver swerve at you and hitting you? but did not hit the jaywalker.

-again, actions bear consequences. dapat niya panagutan ito.

sorry, mejo jaded sagot ko, buset yung kausap ko na customer, nagmamagaling, pinangungunahan ako, and has the nerve to say na patient ako. namfuts.

[niky]

*oldblue: andami... like the time I spun a car (half asleep, half tipsy, very fast and dusty... should've not gone out, should've slept more) or when I got mauled by frat boys (should've run, hesitated, could have fought, too... nice?... I've never hit anyone in my adult life), you always regret not doing something else or reacting faster... but in the end, you just have to learn to move on.

[Flagg]

The only life I've ever killed was this lousy cat over at the Sta. Rosa road going to Tagaytay mga 10pm. I was going mga 80km/h, so no way am I gonna stop. Usually, at that speed, I'm always alert, scanning both sides of the road aside from the front. Pero ito, iba talaga...

The *#$% cat fell from an overhanging tree branch! Cost me 2 tow hook covers.

When I couldn't find the tow hook covers, sa sobrang inis ko, inatrasan ko 2x the *#$% flattened cat.

[Flagg]

Tingin ka sa pinanggalingan nila and say mo sa kanila: "Oh s**t, cops!" Ehehehe. Whoops. Peace to my egoy friends...

[nugundam93]

fxt: hahahahahaha! roadkill ftw! :lol:

[cablespy]

minsan may jaywalker walked straight into the side of our van. He wasn't looking so gulat sya bigla nalang tumama mukha nya sa side ng van namin. sinigawan ako sabi, "magbusina ka naman"!

ha?