Does school really matter?

[Yatta]

pero doc, when were you in UP? I think the AB population in UP keeps increasing over time. I have friends who went to UP in the 90s to early 2000s puro mga may kaya. Yung mga taga province bibilhan condo at kotse for use here in Manila.



Yes, I agree



My cousin went to UP in the early 90s and she was already commenting about how there are so many rich students in UP and that the AB should just go to other schools to give chance to those without money to get into a good/top school. What's funny is, sa mother's side ko sila pinakamayaman! But then again, she's taking med kaya UP talaga.

Well, thats not how UP was conceived by the Americans (yup kasalanan ng mga Kano). Its supposed to take in the best the country has regardless of income, creed or religion. Unfortunately nga some are more prepared than others...

[Verbl Kint]

Well, thats not how UP was conceived by the Americans (yup kasalanan ng mga Kano). Its supposed to take in the best the country has regardless of income, creed or religion. Unfortunately nga some are more prepared than others...

I'm perfectly fine with rich kids going to state universities, so long as they pay their own way. Scholarships should only be just for students who really need it.

[_Cathy_]

Don't they ask for the ITR of the parents of all students?

[dr. d]

admission to UP is still largely by merit, i.e., grades and entrance exam.
unfortunately, it is the more affluent who can afford to enrol in high-quality high schools, thus affording them better chance at garnering higher entrance exam grade.
nung panahon ng 'merika kasi, our public school system is good or better, than the private schools.
some say that in the philippines, those who "have issues" are the ones who enrol in private schools, back then.

in some UPs, (all UPs?), family income is considered. thus, the richer ones pay higher, while the poorer ones pay less.

[_Cathy_]

My brother passed UPd but my parents didn't allow him to go to UPd. That really pissed my brother off hehe

I wonder, sa generation ngayon, do parents still control the education of their children? Kuya ko grade school pa lang alam na ng family saan siya mag MBA Kami mga babae hindi masyado pinapakialamanan kasi sa family namin mas valued ang lalaki

[Yatta]

Don't they ask for the ITR of the parents of all students?

Even back then no, not unless you are applying for scholarship or financial assistance.

admission to UP is still largely by merit, i.e., grades and entrance exam.
unfortunately, it is the more affluent who can afford to enrol in high-quality high schools, thus affording them better chance at garnering higher entrance exam grade.
nung panahon ng 'merika kasi, our public school system is good or better, than the private schools.
some say that in the philippines, those who "have issues" are the ones who enrol in private schools, back then.

in some UPs, (all UPs?), family income is considered. thus, the richer ones pay higher, while the poorer ones pay less.

Because of the law on free college tuition (RA 10931 of 2017), state colleges and universities are now free of tuition (for the duration of the baccalaureate course, 4-5 years if I'm not mistaken, after that you start paying para hindi naman maabuso). Before this one had to pay up or apply for assistance.

My brother passed UPd but my parents didn't allow him to go to UPd. That really pissed my brother off hehe

I wonder, sa generation ngayon, do parents still control the education of their children? Kuya ko grade school pa lang alam na ng family saan siya mag MBA Kami mga babae hindi masyado pinapakialamanan kasi sa family namin mas valued ang lalaki

Obviously since even with free tuition there are still bills to pay (allowances, dorm/house fees, other expenses). So even if UP is free there are still those who withdraw lalo kapag taga-probinsiya and yung program is at a specific campus only.

[dr. d]

Because of the law on free college tuition (RA 10931 of 2017), state colleges and universities are now free of tuition (for the duration of the baccalaureate course, 4-5 years if I'm not mistaken, after that you start paying para hindi naman maabuso). Before this one had to pay up or apply for assistance.

yup. bachelors' degrees are now tuition-free.
but medicine is considered postgraduate. our students pay graduated fees, based on parents' ITR.

[dr. d]

Obviously since even with free tuition there are still bills to pay (allowances, dorm/house fees, other expenses). So even if UP is free there are still those who withdraw lalo kapag taga-probinsiya and yung program is at a specific campus only.

there are several reasons why they do not proceed to UP.

loyalty to one's alma mater.
peer pressure.
malayo sa bahay.
dorm expenses, atbp.
scholarship offerings by competing university.
perceived culture shock, from the student or from the relatives.
non-Catholic atmosphere.
and in our case of medical students, walang pang-matricula, pang-aklats, pang-uniporme, pagkain sa araw-araw, tirahan ('ciano, 'ika nga. heh heh)! advice namin, "hijo, mag enrol ka na. hahanapan ka namin nang iskolarship."
atpb.