yasser arafat 1929-2004

**van_wilder** · November 13th, 2004 12:03 AM

yasser arafat 1929-2004 died yesterday, one of the good political liberators of the modern world... wala lang, sobrang grabe yun funeral niya, hindi na nacontrol ang mga tao... pati yun military naging emotional... mahal na mahal ng mga palestinians si yasser arafat... pero mga israelis nag-celebrate... mundo nga naman...

**Ch|p^^** · November 13th, 2004 01:44 AM

hmm... totoo bang kahapon sya namatay? diba may mga usap-usapan na namatay na sya a few days back pero they denied it and said he was still alive? >.> nakita ko sa news un >_<

**van_wilder** · November 13th, 2004 01:54 AM

yan ang hindi ko alam... basta alam ko november 11... bakit naman nila idedeny tapos aaminin din?

**Ch|p^^** · November 13th, 2004 01:59 AM

Ewan ko nga kung bakit... pero bakit nga may lumabas na news item na patay na daw then they strongly deny na buhay pa >.> hmm...... labo..... lol

**Karding** · November 13th, 2004 03:22 AM

one of the good political liberators of the modern world.

A revolutionary leader trying to lead a democratic nation. He agrees to peace talks alright, but he always back-out prior to doing it. I mean, if I was Arafat and I'm a revolutionary leader, why would I want peace? That means I get nothing out of my agenda.

Now that he's finally dead, hopefully peace has a better chance.

**empy** · November 13th, 2004 04:12 AM

naunahan ma ako sa pag-komento Karding ah.

i guess it's a matter of perspective. one man's "political liberator" is another man's "terrorist".

i have a lot of sympathy for Arafat's cause, but his terrorist methods disgust me. also, i think the man is no saint.

RIP though. if nothing else, he's successfully elevated world consciousness to the plight of the Palestinians.

**van_wilder** · November 13th, 2004 01:58 PM

karding: yun nga lang ang malabo sa kanya, pero at least naging conscious tayo regarding sa situation ng mga palestinians

tama ka dun m54 powered, pero wag mo na sabihin, patay na eh... multohin pa tayo...

wala lang: baka buhay pa siya... since hindi matuloy-tuloy yun state nila, nagtago na lang and faked his death... ehehehhe...

**mazdamazda** · November 13th, 2004 03:37 PM

the way he died was quite alarming... i mean he is in a coma... but different groups are saying different thigs...

btw, what REALLY caused his death? did they pull the plug off the respirator? we all know that he is in a coma - but comas can last for months... even years for some people...

though he really did bungle the Israeli-Palestinian peace process IMO. he maybe speakin like a lamb but his followers are acting like wolves. he always disclaims the acts of other Palestinians (involved in terrorist attacks) and yet he does nothing concrete to stop this.

**Monseratto** · November 14th, 2004 10:31 AM

Originally posted by Karding
A revolutionary leader trying to lead a democratic nation. He agrees to peace talks alright, but he always back-out prior to doing it. I mean, if I was Arafat and I'm a revolutionary leader, why would I want peace? That means I get nothing out of my agenda.

Now that he's finally dead, hopefully peace has a better chance.

The last peace talk in Camp David w/ Bill Clinton and Ehud Barak failed because the Jews refused to allow Palestinian refugees living outside the territories the right to return. It is like asking Jews not to allow Russian Jews into Israel. Sometime extreme methods are required in extreme circumstances. Only did the Palestinian cause came into the world stage when Arafat PLO hijacked and attacked Jewish interest. Remember it is the Palestinians who are suffering the most, not the Jews.

**pissword** · November 14th, 2004 10:35 AM

sabi, hindi daw nagsusupport ng euthanasia ang mga palestinian so it means d hinatak ang plug

then 2nd, arab siya dba? 1 to 2 days lang po talaga sa mga muslim brothers natin ang lamay... actually within 24 hrs lang. its possible na coma nga lang talaga siguro sya the past few days

at the same time baka sabi ng iba eh patay na since brain dead na nung huli at dami na nagfail na organs..

**empy** · November 14th, 2004 10:53 AM

Originally posted by Monseratto
Sometime extreme methods are required in extreme circumstances. Only did the Palestinian cause came into the world stage when Arafat PLO hijacked and attacked Jewish interest. Remember it is the Palestinians who are suffering the most, not the Jews.

am i reading your words right? are you rationalizing terrorism as "extreme measures in extreme circumstances"? if so, what do you think about september 11? is it justifiable so that osama bin laden can bring world attention to his cause?

let's keep going - what about abu sayyaf bombing malls in manila, etc?

let me say that one of my best friends is a palestinian refugee who fled the west bank to lebanon, and fled again to the US. through him i have gained a lot of knowledge and sympathy about the Palestinians' plight.

guerrilla tactics against military or government targets might be justifiable. bombs in crowded civilian marketplaces and on children's school buses is simply barbaric and despicable. i don't care how just your cause is. like any decent human being, my friend condemns this.

actually, imo his way - intelligent conversation and facts - is a much better way than Arafat's (or Hamas's). he certainly convinced me to support a free Palestine...and he didn't even have to blow up any 6-year old children in the process.

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