Bakit walang double-decker bus sa Manila?

[niky]

Boundary nalang kaya?

I doubt you could consider most jeepney drivers as illegal... they hardly make enough money to be taxed.

[impulzz]

veed they pay taxes daw...when they register...road user tax... at pagbumili yung driver ng yosi...hehe

[theveed]

niky: that's no excuse, jeepney drivers make more than you average janitor or messenger, but they get taxed, sss, etc... do the math, if each jeepney can carry 20 passengers per trip, each passenger pays 5.50 per trip, that's P110/trip, each jeepney (like those in high traffic urban areas) usually does 10 trips a day balikan that's P1110/day or P26,640 if they drive 6 days a week! Magkano lang cost nila sa diesel? They don't follow the 5000km change oil stuff either...

How much do most janitors get paid? 5K/month!? They pay tax and they pay those doggone PUV drivers as well.

Tricycles are absurd as well, P5-20 bucks for short trips!!!

[Bogeyman]

The closest thing I remember to a double decker bus are the open-air Matorco ones plying the Roxas Blvd. route. Ewan ko lang kung meron pa nito ngayon. Sa sama ng hangin ngayon, kelangan mo nang magbaon ng astringent bago ka sumakay.

OT: Totoo ngang mahina na ang kita ng mga jeepney drivers, in part because there are now so many of them. Nagkaka-agawan na ng routes at pasahero, bukod pa sa krudo at piyesa. Kaya puro fare hike na lang ang isinisigaw nila. What they don't realize is that kahit itaas ang pasahe, kung dumadami din ang mga tsuper, balewala din. They'll end up asking for even more fare increases, at ang mga pasahero ang laging kawawa.

If I were the LTFRB chair, I'd impose a moratorium or ceiling on the membership of jeepney transport groups. Siguro kung every year sila tumatanggap ng members, dapat gawing every other year or every two years na lang, para hindi saturated ang mga daan. Mabibigyan pa yung mga current members ng chance para mag-thrive, before giving way to the new ones. This will also force the groups to adopt more stringent standards in selecting members, para hindi mga kung sinu-sino na lang ang nagmamaneho ng jeepney.

[pajerokid]

Originally posted by niky
Boundary nalang kaya?

I doubt you could consider most jeepney drivers as illegal... they hardly make enough money to be taxed.

dude, you'll be surprised on how much drivers and operators make.

[pajerokid]

On double deckers, yeah we had them in the 80's running on EDSA together with the Love Buses.

Aliw nga sumakay before.... although hassle mag egress pag puno ng pasahero hehe.

[niky]

problem is... HOW will you tax jeepney drivers and operatiors? Make them issue receipts? :p

I've got an idea... have a toll box (a la American buses) wherein people put their pay... the driver/conductor is there just to change bills for coins.... good racket kaya? We'll make these boxes for them!

[orly_andico]

theveed, yung 1100/day that you calculated, that's gross. i believe the boundary is now between 700 and 1000 per day. sa'yo pa ang cost of fuel. so actually the jeepney drivers live a really marginal existence..

[RafRaf]

the most viable replacement for the jeepney is the multicab/minicab ng Norkis... matipid sa fuel, less pollution, compact pero kaya isakay ang kasing dami sa jeep, PINOY MADE, mura pa... pwede pa ipa-aircon... dito sa cavite dumadami na sila... sa south yata tinatalo na nila ang mga tricycles...



Norkis Multicab website

double deckerbuses... pwede rin, mas marami sakay... basta ba huwag buwaya ang drivers sa pagmamaneho nito...

[jolog1]

Flat tax is one solution. The other solution is to tax the boundary fee instead. Boundary sa Manila is P900. I don't know how much they make pero yung kakilala kong jeep driver, ok yung buhay niya. Yung pedicab driver na kakilala ko, sabi niya ang pinakamababang kita niya sa 1 day is P500. Walang boundary, walang gas expense. Depende lang sa tiyaga mo.

Minsan kung maglakad kayo sa EDSA, Taft, Avenida, Recto, pagmasdan ninyo ang mga dumaraang jeep. Tatlo o minsan apat na jeep magkakalapit, competing for the same passengers. Bihirang puno mga ito unless rush hour. Sa non-peak hours, ikot lang sila ng ikot, minsan 50% capacity lang. Imagine mo imbis na 3 jeep, you only see 1 double-decker bus. Imagine mo, instead of black smoke belching in the air, it's natural gas. Kailangan ng matuto ang pinoy ng bus system tulad ng ibang bansa. Unload/load only at bus stops. 1 bus for every 15 minutes. Less jeeps on the road means luluwag ang daan. More efficient ang public transportation. Less traffic. Mas mabilis din ang biyahe. Hindi na kailangan magmadali magmaneho ang mga bus driver kasi wala ng competition, regulated na each stop.

[konde]

ok lang double deckers te ease traffic and pollution and kung katulad sa ibang bansa na they are time-bound. sa buwaya ng mga bus drivers natin, pupunuin yon kaya kung pasahero ka, mamumuti rin mata mo sa tagal ng biyahe!

[gearspeed]

Pwede pa siguro noon ang mga double deckers na bus pero ngayon hindi na...dahil marami na ang mga bus driver na kaskasero..:D

[xam]

masyado yata mataas mga double deck buses...sasabit na sila sa mga electric cables...hehe!!! although cool kung meron...less traffic...kaya lang maraming jeepney driver ang mawawalan ng trabaho...sad...

[pissword]

yeapp mukhang sasabit ang double decker ngayon nga... kasi ang baba naman ng mga wires dito sa atin, at isa pa d kasi underground dumadaan ang mga utilities natin except water.

yun sinasabi niyo naman po sir niky, before mga 3 or 4 years ago may nakita akong g-liner na bus (the green one, plying quiapo - rizal route).. na may ala-ibang bansa style, na maghuhulog ka ng pera pag sakay at bago iikot ang bar na parang sa grocery, but i guess to uncomfy for pinoys kasi d sanay.

pag akyat napapatigil ng matagal kasi d naman handa ang pera bubunot pa lalo tuloy natatagalan pag pick up hehe

[niky]

Well, sanayan lang yan... if it can be enforced on the LRT... if people can be forced to line up and pay, can't we make them keep change out for the jeep? Di rin naman kailangan ng turnstile... basta may cashbox kung saan ihuhulog ang pera... hay, sana.

[carlocaraddict]

i could still remember na nagkaroon ng double decker dito sa manila. Bata pa ako nun nakasakay ako nun w/ my dad. I think Love Bus yun.

[odell]

baka naman tumaob ang dobol decker bus niyan sa kakaswerve ng mga ogags!

[kiper]

Originally posted by Karding
And what will happen to those jeepney drivers who will lose their livelihood?

Is this another thread created to satify "oneself"?

I give up....

nah..I don't think so.