Bakit ka badtrip today?

[_Cathy_]

it was quite a busy night yesterday at that station doc and i have nowhere to go except that pump where's the effing jeepney at. saka nandoon yun pump ng nitro diesel na kinakarga ko.
pinapasadya lang talaga nung driver na pabagalin yun pump, cause they have thoughts that when you fill up your tank with pump at full speed,,, there's nothing more but air "daw" you are flowing with the nozzle.
drip it like pee could eliminate the air daw, imagine 40L to fill na halos patak lang sa straw? ewan ko ba kung saan nila napulot yun teyorya na yun

Why do gas stations allow it? Paging jut703

Please don't take offense pero habaan mo na lang pisi mo next time. I'd feel bad for the driver if they had to resort to that method to save a few centavos (sa paniniwala nila). Ewan ko ba, minsan asar na asar ako sa jeep, pero minsan naman awang awa ako.

BTT: Waxed my car again, talagang overspray talaga! Still no update from Toyota on how they plan to rectify the problem!

[radz15]

Why do gas stations allow it? Paging jut703

Please don't take offense pero habaan mo na lang pisi mo next time. I'd feel bad for the driver if they had to resort to that method to save a few centavos (sa paniniwala nila). Ewan ko ba, minsan asar na asar ako sa jeep, pero minsan naman awang awa ako.

BTT: Waxed my car again, talagang overspray talaga! Still no update from Toyota on how they plan to rectify the problem!

Pag nagpapa full tank ako laging level 2 yung speed na lagi kong sinasabi sa gas boy para normal lang yung flow. OA naman masyado pag level 1 lang. Na eexperience ko na kasi pag level 3 may gas stations talaga na may kasamang hangin na nakakarga not 100% na gas.

[jut703]

Fuel dispenser nozzles have 3 settings for their dispensing speed. You can think of it as slow, medium, and fast. Usually, pump attendants fill it up at the fastest setting to minimize turnaround time, allowing them to serve more customers as well.

Even with the fastest setting though, when the volume is near the limit set (say, P300 pesos), it automatically slows down as opposed to an abrupt stop. Aside from this, pumps are calibrated regularly (especially in MM where LGUs are stricter) so these pumps dispense the correct volume regardless of the speed setting.

I have tried this multiple times with a calibrating bucket and different dispensing speeds and the pump still dispensed the proper volume.

So why do jeepney drivers fill up at the slowest setting? It's mostly because of the misconception that they won't get what they pay for when the nozzle is at its fastest setting. We've tried to explain this to jeepney drivers but of course, these people mostly don't have extensive academic backgrounds and will believe hearsay among their peers rather than science.

However, there is a tiny bit of truth when they say that "you get more when you fill up slowly". Think of a bucket and a faucet - if the faucet is too strong, you'll see bubbles forming on the top of the bucket. This is not because the faucet is dispensing air, but simply because the strong flow of water causes bubbles to form. Also, when filling to the brim, it takes a few seconds for the fuel to settle.

If you really want your tank filled to the brim, the pump attendant will fill your tank until it stops automatically, and then add fuel slowly, then let it settle, then add again, and he repeats this process until your tank is almost overflowing. I always just let the pump fill my tank until the nozzle automatically cuts it (there's a sensor on the tip of the nozzle that cuts fuel flow when it detects that fuel has reached the sensor), but some people prefer having it filled to the brim.

Ultimately though, you still get what you pay for, or rather, you pay for what you get. If you get it manually filled to the brim, you pay more than someone who just gets an automatic full tank because you get more fuel (about 2-3 liters more compared to automatic). In the case of the jeepney driver who fills up P200 worth of diesel, it really doesn't matter if he does it at the slowest or fastest setting. He'll still get 200 worth of pure diesel with no air.

What affects your efficiency though is the number of trips to the pump that you take. When filling up, you idle about 5-10 min (these jeepney drivers don't turn off their engine when filling anyway), which uses gas. If you fill up 3 times a day, then you waste 30 min idling, of course that uses more fuel. Unfortunately, most jeepney drivers are hand-to-mouth and can't fill up just once a day with a full tank.

Why do gas stations allow it? A sale is a sale. These jeepney drivers are a finicky bunch and it takes a while to get them to develop the habit of filling up at your station rather than the several others they pass by along their route. So pump attendants just accept their eccentricities to retain them. Of course, if filling up takes too long and inconveniences others, you should report it to the Team Leader that's present.

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[vinj]

A small leak shows itself. The day after you wrap up the post renovation backjob works. Annoying indeed.

[dr. d]

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these PUJs..
the gentleman's agreement among them, is that the vehicle is handed over to the next driver, with a literally full-to-the-brim fuel tank. it's the only way that everyone is assured of a "full tank".
they take their time with the pump, so's to avoid bubbles.
imagine what would happen, if they fill 'er up the same way you or me do it.. full speed.... small bubbles will form. lots of small bubbles!
and if you see the shape of a jeepney's fuel tank... it's flat as an aircraft carrier at the top.
small bubbles can get trapped somewhere under that huge flat top... hence the "rock the jeep" movement.
come next morning, aba! nakawala na yung bula, at less than brim-full na!
away na yan...

they've been doing this for decades... far longer than most of you have been alive.

[_Cathy_]

So it really does take 30 minutes to fill up??? That's opportunity cost too. Imbis na yung oras e nagagamit sa biyahe, sa gas station naka idle.

[jut703]

Pwede namang patayin yung engine while filling up to avoid idling wastage, but the time wastage is still there.

The bubbles will settle even at the fastest setting. Quickest way to do it is fill up quickly via automatic full tank, then just do the trickle method (combined with the jeep-shaking) for the last 2-3 liters if you really want it full to the brim.

But like I said, old habits die hard.


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[dr. d]

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So it really does take 30 minutes to fill up??? That's opportunity cost too. Imbis na yung oras e nagagamit sa biyahe, sa gas station naka idle.

30 minutes is an overstatement, most of the time.
but the lesson is, never wait in line behind a PUJ, especially at night, if there is an alternative.

maraming PUJ garage sa neighborhood namin.. been there.. done that.. and learned!

[jaypee10]

diba may lane naman sa mga puj or pub

wag na mag pa gas sa shell

he he he...

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diba may lane naman sa mga puj or pub

wag na mag pa gas sa shell

he he he...

[_Cathy_]

^Bakit wag Shell? Pa gas ka kung saan walang Jeep para walang problema. hehe,

[crazy_boy]

badtrip at nag short yung 18650 battery charger ko. now where can i find cheap charger?

[dr. d]

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badtrip at nag short yung 18650 battery charger ko. now where can i find cheap charger?

sa mall. ace. handyman.
panther, etc.
basic. non-intelligent.
local.
molopisya closes at 10 pm.

[crazy_boy]

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sa mall. ace. handyman.
panther, etc.
basic. non-intelligent.
local.
molopisya closes at 10 pm.

salamat! meron palang 18650 charger sa hardware. will check it. thanks doc!

nagkabaliktad kasi + and - when charging

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sa mall. ace. handyman.
panther, etc.
basic. non-intelligent.
local.
molopisya closes at 10 pm.

salamat! meron palang 18650 charger sa hardware. will check it. thanks doc!

nagkabaliktad kasi + and - when charging

[n_spinner06]

Amppp... Ayos na ayos mag isip to, utak katol tulad ng mga puj drivers. "Letse ka mag tiis ka, wala akong paki alam kung nakaka perwisyo ko." Mentality

Ibang level din sense of entitlememt nito. "Pre bilisan natin kasi si sir sa likod naiihi na." It doesn't change my stand that you were rude. Bumisina na, natuwa pa nung muntik mauntog.

There will always be things beyond our control. If we failed to be proactive, adjust. Kung late ako umalis kunwari at naipit ako sa trapik, tama bang magmura at sisihin lahat sa kalsada and label them as 'perwisyo'? Di matatapos dun to e. Pano kung natagalan cashier dahil busy at dami nagpapagas? Perwisyo na din? E kung may biglang tumawid na matanda sa kalsada at mabagal? Perwisyo na din? "Naiihi ako tabi kayong lahat."

At ikaw ata tumitira ng katol tsong. Naiihi ka pala e di sa cr ka pumunta hindi sa dispenser ng gas. Sa likod pa ng jip pumila. Wow.

Btt: bad trip yung mga taong akala nila mas-importante sila sa iba. And there really is truth to the adage that common sense isn't so common...

[minicarph]

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[_Cathy_]

Ibang level din sense of entitlememt nito. "Pre bilisan natin kasi si sir sa likod naiihi na." It doesn't change my stand that you were rude. Bumisina na, natuwa pa nung muntik mauntog.

There will always be things beyond our control. If we failed to be proactive, adjust. Kung late ako umalis kunwari at naipit ako sa trapik, tama bang magmura at sisihin lahat sa kalsada and label them as 'perwisyo'? Di matatapos dun to e. Pano kung natagalan cashier dahil busy at dami nagpapagas? Perwisyo na din? E kung may biglang tumawid na matanda sa kalsada at mabagal? Perwisyo na din? "Naiihi ako tabi kayong lahat."

At ikaw ata tumitira ng katol tsong. Naiihi ka pala e di sa cr ka pumunta hindi sa dispenser ng gas. Sa likod pa ng jip pumila. Wow.

Btt: bad trip yung mga taong akala nila mas-importante sila sa iba. And there really is truth to the adage that common sense isn't so common...

How I wish everyone had the same mindset as you.

[EQAddict]

Ibang level din sense of entitlememt nito. "Pre bilisan natin kasi si sir sa likod naiihi na." It doesn't change my stand that you were rude. Bumisina na, natuwa pa nung muntik mauntog.

There will always be things beyond our control. If we failed to be proactive, adjust. Kung late ako umalis kunwari at naipit ako sa trapik, tama bang magmura at sisihin lahat sa kalsada and label them as 'perwisyo'? Di matatapos dun to e. Pano kung natagalan cashier dahil busy at dami nagpapagas? Perwisyo na din? E kung may biglang tumawid na matanda sa kalsada at mabagal? Perwisyo na din? "Naiihi ako tabi kayong lahat."

At ikaw ata tumitira ng katol tsong. Naiihi ka pala e di sa cr ka pumunta hindi sa dispenser ng gas. Sa likod pa ng jip pumila. Wow.

Btt: bad trip yung mga taong akala nila mas-importante sila sa iba. And there really is truth to the adage that common sense isn't so common...

+100 to this.

Though if I make a slight correction, the guy who called you a Katol sniffer is actually a different poster from the guy who made the original post regarding the jeepney gas filling incident.

In anycase two thumbs up from me. The sense of entitlement of some people here is disappointing.

[CVT]

I fried my (newly-purchased) Belkin Surge Protector...



"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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[ninjababez]

i dont use puj lane sa stations, or iwas pagpila sa likod pujs.
Once a week lang naman ako pa-gas bago pumasok, (intay forecast ni bro jut) kaya matagal allowance ko sa oras.
Mas nakakabadtrip sa akin yun mga MC na sumisingit kahit obvious na nakapila ka eh sisingit bigla tapos nakatingin pa sayo.
Badtrip din yun bumubusina sa likod na pag tanggap ng gasboy ng credit card mo eh, akala nila tapos na agad transaction. Ano ba iniisip nila gusto ko lang tumambay doon.l??! Umaabante naman ako with enough space for them to gas up and move out pagtapos na sila.

[ninjababez]

I fried my (newly-purchased) Belkin Surge Protector...



"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

28.2K _/_/_/_/_/:fish:_/_/_/_/_/

Ako naman ngayon ihahatid ko sa buyer yung belkin surge protector (worth 3.5k, sold it at 1k 1 year used).
Btw bro ilan watts or VA ba capacity ng sayo? Diba fuse lang?