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    My 230e misfires, stalls, drives rough, chokes, hesitates acceleration.
    After days of finding out with different mechanics, we came to a conclusion that the spark plug no. 3 (always wet with oil and does not work after a few kilometers of run from engine start) is caused by a problem inside the valve or gasket (maybe piston). So, we have decided to have it overhauled. Now, would anybody care to share their knowledge:

    -Where can I have my 102 engine overhauled/top?
    -How much would it cost me?
    -Who has experience having his benz engine overhauled?

    TIA

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    By the way, the spark plugs looked like the "oil fouled spark plug" in this picture:

    http://www.aa1car.com/library/s_reading_spark_plugs.jpg

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    McBenz: From where are you? If you're in QC, you might want to try visiting Mike and the Mechanics. Shop is located along Kamuning St. From EDSA, it should be on your right.

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    you have pm.

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    Pinasok ko sa sunshine motors yesterday. The mechanic did some troubleshooting on the fuel distributor. Okay na ulit takbo. After taking it home (Fairview) okay pa din sunog ng spark plug. So, I guess it's just the fuel distributor. Brand new daw nun pag nasira is 30k.

    New problem: Exhaust Tunog jeep na sya... (paahon na jeep) And quoting from Mike Lugtu "tunog bangka"

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBenz View Post
    New problem: Exhaust Tunog jeep na sya... (paahon na jeep) And quoting from Mike Lugtu "tunog bangka"
    Hehehe! Check this website out. A good number of co-enthusiasts has actually tried using their products (as an alternative to OEM muffler)

    http://www.mufflerland.com.ph/

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBenz View Post
    Pinasok ko sa sunshine motors yesterday. The mechanic did some troubleshooting on the fuel distributor. Okay na ulit takbo. After taking it home (Fairview) okay pa din sunog ng spark plug. So, I guess it's just the fuel distributor. Brand new daw nun pag nasira is 30k.

    New problem: Exhaust Tunog jeep na sya... (paahon na jeep) And quoting from Mike Lugtu "tunog bangka"
    Mura na yung quote ng Sunshine na 30k for a brand new fuel distributor, alam ko nasa mga 75-80k ang brand new nyan for a M102 engine, baka surplus yang 30k pero kung talagang brand new yan, bilhin mo na yan para pang spare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBenz View Post
    My 230e misfires, stalls, drives rough, chokes, hesitates acceleration.
    After days of finding out with different mechanics, we came to a conclusion that the spark plug no. 3 (always wet with oil and does not work after a few kilometers of run from engine start) is caused by a problem inside the valve or gasket (maybe piston). So, we have decided to have it overhauled. Now, would anybody care to share their knowledge:

    -Where can I have my 102 engine overhauled/top?
    -How much would it cost me?
    -Who has experience having his benz engine overhauled?

    TIA
    ganitong ganito din nangyari sa w201 190e ko. eksakto sparkplug number 3 din yung nababasa ng oil after a few km of driving. . . . nagstart yung problema nung sakin, hard starting, after maayos yung hard starting, pumapalya na yung makina, then nadiscover ko na nababasa na nga ng oil yung sparkplug number 3. . . ang culprit bad valve seals, and since bubuksan na rin yung makina ko pinapalitan ko na rin yung mga piston rings and main bearings since malapit na ring bumigay para isang bukasan nalang. . . sa charon trading along congressional ave. ko pinagawa yung auto. . . mura na mabait pa yung mayari. . . 1 week nang nandon yung auto ko hopefully next week makuha ko na. . . look for charlie bro kung pupunta kang charon and tell him nirefer ka ni Jr Onia, I'm sure bibigyan ka ng big discount nun. . .

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    *deadly elegance: Thanks for your info and tips.

    Ayaw i-overhaul ng sunshine motors yung benz ko. As I have said, instead, nag-adjust sila sa fuel distributor. Okay na ulit yung takbo at wala na yung palya na parang nasisinok at hesitant mag accelerate at all gears and speeds. Ngayon 1 week na sya maayos ulit takbo, dinala ko na ng antipolo from fairview and to bacolor, pampanga and back. Okay pa din so far.

    Checked on the spark plugs kanina at maganda pa din sunog nilang apat (red-orange kulay) unlike dati na para silang may sakit at nangingitim yung gitna.

    Someday I know i'll have this engine overhauled. Pero sana not at the soonest. Plan ko budget-an muna yung fuel distributor at alternator eh hehe..

    Goodluck sa overhaul mo and I hope maging okay na din ulit takbo nya!

    Cheers!

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    baka meyle ang brand nun FD na yun hehehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBenz View Post
    *deadly elegance: Thanks for your info and tips.

    Ayaw i-overhaul ng sunshine motors yung benz ko. As I have said, instead, nag-adjust sila sa fuel distributor. Okay na ulit yung takbo at wala na yung palya na parang nasisinok at hesitant mag accelerate at all gears and speeds. Ngayon 1 week na sya maayos ulit takbo, dinala ko na ng antipolo from fairview and to bacolor, pampanga and back. Okay pa din so far.

    Checked on the spark plugs kanina at maganda pa din sunog nilang apat (red-orange kulay) unlike dati na para silang may sakit at nangingitim yung gitna.

    Someday I know i'll have this engine overhauled. Pero sana not at the soonest. Plan ko budget-an muna yung fuel distributor at alternator eh hehe..

    Goodluck sa overhaul mo and I hope maging okay na din ulit takbo nya!

    Cheers!
    aw. . . sorry kala ko kasi consistent na nababasa ng oil yung sparkplug tulad nung sakin, buti nalang hindi mo dinanas yung gastos ko. . . sana nga bumalik yund dati nyang takbo i really love this car kase. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by afrasay View Post
    baka meyle ang brand nun FD na yun hehehehe.
    Not sure kasi diko naman natanong yung brand... sana mas magandang brand anyway, no choice naman ako if ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by deadly_elegance View Post
    aw. . . sorry kala ko kasi consistent na nababasa ng oil yung sparkplug tulad nung sakin, buti nalang hindi mo dinanas yung gastos ko. . . sana nga bumalik yund dati nyang takbo i really love this car kase. . .
    Magiging okay yan one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBenz View Post
    *deadly elegance: Thanks for your info and tips.

    Ayaw i-overhaul ng sunshine motors yung benz ko. As I have said, instead, nag-adjust sila sa fuel distributor. Okay na ulit yung takbo at wala na yung palya na parang nasisinok at hesitant mag accelerate at all gears and speeds. Ngayon 1 week na sya maayos ulit takbo, dinala ko na ng antipolo from fairview and to bacolor, pampanga and back. Okay pa din so far.

    Checked on the spark plugs kanina at maganda pa din sunog nilang apat (red-orange kulay) unlike dati na para silang may sakit at nangingitim yung gitna.

    Someday I know i'll have this engine overhauled. Pero sana not at the soonest. Plan ko budget-an muna yung fuel distributor at alternator eh hehe..

    Goodluck sa overhaul mo and I hope maging okay na din ulit takbo nya!

    Cheers!

    Bro, sino pala contact mo sa sunshine motors? i have the same problems

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    Anong klaseng adjustment ginawa sa fuel distributor?

    EHA valve baka na-adjust, or yung air meter tower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbeige View Post
    Anong klaseng adjustment ginawa sa fuel distributor?

    EHA valve baka na-adjust, or yung air meter tower.
    Niluwagan yung apat (?) na connectors from the FD then the mechanic observed the flow of gas. Sabi nya yung isa medyo mahina ang buga. I don't see any difference though maybe it's just me. Anyway, pinukpok nya ng konti yung side ng medyo mahina daw ang buga using (i forgot the tool). Then ayun okay na daw yung buga. He tightened the screws back in place.

    Then yung sa AF meter tower naman medyo inikot-ikot nya left.. right.. i forgot basta kinalikot nya for a while. Then punta sa likod sa exhaust inaamoy parang adik na nga ang dating eh.

    Yun ang mga ginawa nya. Then back to "normal" na yung acceleration.
    It's been almost 3 months (?) since that palya moments.. Okay pa din takbo. Gas consumption naman ang aayusin kasi medyo matakaw * 7km/l.

    Cheers!

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