Late ninetys Benzes - Are they expensive to own/maintain?

[Bry]

I was 'classified dreaming' not too long ago when I saw a '97 CLK for sale. I forgot how much pero I think around 1.2M.... The price is good, pero I'm thinking to myself baka madaming gastos na and mahal ang piyesa and labor. The idea in me sparked again when I saw this 97-98 CLK drive in front of me today. WOW. Ganda talaga.

Mga experts, what do you think? Are there other shops na mahusay naman mag-service? Kasi I heard sa casa sobrang mahal daw talaga.

[theveed]

Well, lahat naman ng oto ganyan eh, the higher the entry price, the higher the maintenance costs will be as well.

I suggest you check out European or US boards/forums for frequently mentioned problems and how much they cost to replace (I don't think a lot of things can be "repaired" with late model Euros without costing an arm and a leg anyway).

[nycboy]

Check these websites www.mbworld.org and www.benzworld.org.

[empy]

yes, they are. but a well-maintained benz or bmw doesn't really break down all that often. my experience with a '95 w202 c-class (my brother's car) is that the parts cost much more, but it didn't require expensive repairs more than once a year.

so, if you can self-maintain, or find a trusted person to maintain the car and fix the small stuff inexpensively, i think it will be fine.

[hens]

CLK200 Kompressor? Coupe or Convertible?

bilhin mo na agad!!..para eb na tayo..hehehe

[edl100]

a 97 CLK for 1.2 is quite cheap specially if it is in good condition.

Owning and buying this type of Mercedes requires a dedicated owner and driver. This is not an ordinary car that you just put gas and drive off just like any Japanese car.

Reliability of BENZES are attested to the older W124s below 1995. The 97 still has problems but it can all be repaired. Mechanics and Parts are abundant. Just buy the CLK first. Later mo na problemahin yung sira.

Problems I can think of:

1) Aircon Blower motor and regulator. Plus evaporator sensors etc.. -est. P40,000 or more. Due to fail specially after 9 years of service.
2) Transmission -- Electronic type. It is a sealed type without a dipstick. Only the dealer can check this. Very expensive to replace if this slips while driving.
3) If the evaporator has a leak, you have to pull down the entire dashboard and probably ruin a few electrical connections in the process.
4) Also, this car is computerized. Bawat galaw mo dito, baka kailangan ng OBDII scanner or the "check engine" lights and warnings will light up the dashboard.
5) Uses a DENSO 7sb16C compressor that fails earlier than usual. Compressors have a life span of 6 years at most. Cost about P30,000 to replace.
6) Starter motor fails by this time. -- cheap to repair
7) Brake pads and rotors may need replacing. P4,500 pad set (pagid brand) for front. The rotors are Brembos so it is expensive too.
8) The steering rack should be in perfect condition without any noise and leaks.. Casa says it cannot be repaired but should be replaced if it breaks. Cost about P250,000. Anyway, if it is broken, I can help you find a mechanic and parts for repair.

[edl100]

Oo nga. Benz EB na tayo!!


hens: did you go to the MBCP EB last saturday? Absent ako.

[hens]

Oo nga. Benz EB na tayo!!


hens: did you go to the MBCP EB last saturday? Absent ako.

OT: natuloy ba? di ko rin alam eh. sobrang lakas ng ulan di ba?

[edl100]

OT: natuloy ba? di ko rin alam eh. sobrang lakas ng ulan di ba?

OT: I am not sure too if it pushed through.. Naka ready na akong umalis mga 8:00pm but umulan ng malakas. Di na ako umalis since madudumihan lang yung car.

[IJD180]

Im really disappionted in the quality of MBs these days
The Depreciation & Resale value pretty much says what its worth.
I used to own a 98 ML320. first owner ako and it was my first benz. Things that normally dont break in any new car broke on this benz. It required so much repairs and maintenance that I became good friends with the managers of Cats and Europhil. I even had their cellphone number in case of emergencies.

I sold it last year with just 40t mileage and bought something Japanese. Now I only like japanese and korean cars. I never felt any remorse selling that benz.

My dads late 90s benz also had plenty of mysterious ilnesses despite being 1st owner and really low mileage. He is now a big japanese car fan too.

[Flagg]

Bulok Benz...BMW na! Oops, no offense sir hens & edl100... personal experience lang...

[hens]

Bulok Benz...BMW na! Oops, no offense sir hens & edl100... personal experience lang...

oist, matagal na di nag-tatampo yung kotse ko..hehehe (bati na kami)

napapansin ko yung mga nasa casa..panay mga low mileage laging sirain..(kulang sa excercise).. parang tao lang yan..buong araw ka naka-upo. tapos, bigla kang tatayo..syempre, sasakit din balakang at tuhod mo.

parang gusto ko na rin mag-BM..hehehe

[edl100]

hehehe. I agree with you. There are times when newer MBs do break down a lot!!

This is the reason why I know a lot of repairs regarding MBs is because I have first hand experience with it. It is really a money drainer. It is such an accomplishment to have a good running Mercedes on our hot Philippine roads.

BTW, BMWs are not immune to this, isa pa itong problematic car. Basta euro car, expect a lot of things to break down.

[BlueBimmer]

da best are 90s BMs, fewer electrical gremlins than new BMs

[theveed]

Hens: 3 years mo na sinasabi yan! hehe

[hens]

Hens: 3 years mo na sinasabi yan! hehe

LOL..ayaw pang maniwala yung isa dito..hehehe kumontra pa eh.

It required so much repairs and maintenance that I became good friends with the managers of Cats and Europhil

Natawa ako dito..LOL kilala na rin ako sa CATS. pati yung mga security, company driver & janitor...

[Flagg]

Sir edl, wag sa CATS, pag di na nila kaya e sa CMC din bagsak auto nyo. Diretso CMC ka nalang, or para tipid, dun kami sa Basic sa Libis nagpapagawa. Very good.

Kontra ko lang statement mo sa BMW, yung mga maintenance logbook ng mga MB namin average 4 pages each... sa mga BMW namin, 2 pages each...

Sir hens, di pa kita na-update dun sa latest kalokohan ng S namin... one day, naging 0-100 in 20 secs, top speed 110km/h... why? gas pedal sensor... WTF? Pati ba yan e electronic na? Buti pa yung naka-cable lang e...

[theveed]

Hehe, the more electronics, the harder to fix (kasi puros replace lang)

[scarab]

....yung mga W124/W126 na benzes sirain din ba? yung W202 ni erpats medyo nabibwiset ako (pero sarap i-drive). medyo trip na trip ko pa rin yung mga early 90s na benz kaya iniisip ko baka less complicated to' compared sa late 90s na benz.

[theveed]

Not really, mechanical karamihan eh... yun yung mga last era na matitibay na benz hehe, afaik si Henry Sy 126 na bulletproof padin gamit nya.