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    hi guys,

    sideline ko kse mag-edit ng videos pero small-time pa lang (weddings, birthdays, VCD souvenirs, school projects, etc.). gusto ko na sana mag-upgrade pra makakuha ng bagong clients..i've been using Pinnacle DC10 capture card for a couple of years now. Analog capturing lang sya and i want to add digital na since marami na gumgamit ng DVcamcorders.. and para DVD output na rin.

    i'm not sure if pwede na bibili lng ako ng firewire port for the digital inputs and still use my DC10 for analog (para mas mura). if ganun, will there be an issue sa rendering? or bili nlng ako ng totally new AV/DV capture card? (un sa Pinnacle kse costs around P10-15thou, mjo mabigat din).

    also, ang licensed software ko is Pinnacle Studio 7 lng. Gusto ko sana ng Pinnacle Studio 9 or Adobe Premiere. San po kaya merong licensed editions na mura lang? Mahal din kse ung online purchasing nila.

    Hope you can help me out! ;) Thanks!!

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    Since your budget is tight, just buy a firewire card. You can get one from PC shops for about 1K. So with the firewire card and your existing DC10 card you can do both digital and analog capture. You can stick with Studio 7 as it can handle DV capture. That's it.

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    Nako-konsiyensya ka ba about using pirated CD? Yung Adobe Primiere kasi eh P100 lang sa mall. Kung mag-e-edit ka sa bahay, hindi ka naman ire-raid ng NBI malamang. :praning:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushi Mushi
    Nako-konsiyensya ka ba about using pirated CD? Yung Adobe Primiere kasi eh P100 lang sa mall. Kung mag-e-edit ka sa bahay, hindi ka naman ire-raid ng NBI malamang. :praning:
    hehe ndi nman.. kaya lang po mdalas pag pirated software, mraming ndi naka-unlock na effects. ska madalas mag-hang o kaya may problem sa installation kse ndi kumpleto ung files. kaya nakakainis din. hehe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by uvax
    Since your budget is tight, just buy a firewire card. You can get one from PC shops for about 1K. So with the firewire card and your existing DC10 card you can do both digital and analog capture. You can stick with Studio 7 as it can handle DV capture. That's it.
    that's what i was thinking. kya lng pag nag-render un, aling hardware ang gagamitin ng Studio? un firewire card o un DC10? kse nakaka-epekto rin daw un sa video quality eh. tama po ba?

    kya ko gusto Studio 9 kse i need ung video overlay na effect.. meron din po bang mabibili na installation cds ng special effects and sounds that can be used with Studio? wla kse ako nakikita sa PC shops eh. thanks po!

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    Firewire card and DC10 are capture cards. Walang kinalaman ang mga ito sa rendering. Yung CPU ang ginagamit sa rendering kaya walang epekto sa video quality ang mga card na ito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uvax
    Firewire card and DC10 are capture cards. Walang kinalaman ang mga ito sa rendering. Yung CPU ang ginagamit sa rendering kaya walang epekto sa video quality ang mga card na ito.
    ah ok. thanks for clearing that up. someone once told me na may kinalaman daw kse un eh!.. self-study lng kse ako kya i don't know much about the technical/hardware aspect of this business.

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    i was just asking the same question to villman computers but for me it's for capturing dv images from my camcorder to a laptop. they reccomended Snazio Pocket PVR which costs P5998. see mo, www.snazio.com/Links/PVR.html meron din yata sila sa villman for a desktop, mas mura http://www.villman.com/

    then pag meron ka na turuan mo ko ha ehehehe! wala pa ko alam e, naubos na kasi yung dv tapes ko so need ko ilipat sa vcd/dvd, mas mura kasi blank disk kesa dv tape.
    Last edited by yebo; June 2nd, 2005 at 05:14 PM.

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    Instead of Pinnacle, why not try the Taiwan video cards like:

    PROLINK
    http://www.prolink.com.tw/english/pr.../mutimedia.htm

    and

    KWORLD
    http://www.kworld.com.tw/

    Hindi hamak na mas makakamura ka pa. The quality is even top-notch. Your customers can never tell the difference. Isipin mo kung P10,000 yung Pinnacle mo, ilang kasalan o binyagan pa ang ta-trabahuhin mo para ma-recover mo yung P10,000 na investment mo?

    About software, hindi rin hamak na mas maraming features ang Adobe Premiere kaysa sa Pinnacle Studio. In fact, Adobe Premiere is used more often sa Hollywood movie studios. Okay na okay yung nabili kong Adobe Premiere jan sa may Makati Cinema Square - fully functional. P100 lang.
    :praning:

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo
    i was just asking the same question to villman computers but for me it's for capturing dv images from my camcorder to a laptop. they reccomended Snazio Pocket PVR which costs P5998. see mo, www.snazio.com/Links/PVR.html meron din yata sila sa villman for a desktop, mas mura http://www.villman.com/

    then pag meron ka na turuan mo ko ha ehehehe! wala pa ko alam e, naubos na kasi yung dv tapes ko so need ko ilipat sa vcd/dvd, mas mura kasi blank disk kesa dv tape.
    tnx po! cge sir, tingnan ko rin sa villman. narinig ko na rin tong brand na to before pero i haven't seen it's specs.. cge po turuam ko kya pag marunong na ko. hehehe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo
    i was just asking the same question to villman computers but for me it's for capturing dv images from my camcorder to a laptop. they reccomended Snazio Pocket PVR which costs P5998. see mo, www.snazio.com/Links/PVR.html meron din yata sila sa villman for a desktop, mas mura http://www.villman.com/

    then pag meron ka na turuan mo ko ha ehehehe! wala pa ko alam e, naubos na kasi yung dv tapes ko so need ko ilipat sa vcd/dvd, mas mura kasi blank disk kesa dv tape.
    yebo,

    Since it's DV to laptop transfer you're after that is not the optimal solution for you. All you need is a firewire pc card for your laptop. Cost at Villman for this card is only about 2K.

    The Snazio you are mentioning is far from optimal as it will capture in analog and then convert to digital. You will lose picture quality from your original DV tape. This will only be useful for you if you want to view TV on your laptop.

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    wala pa ko alam e, naubos na kasi yung dv tapes ko so need ko ilipat sa vcd/dvd, mas mura kasi blank disk kesa dv tape.
    have the same prob here. d ko pa din na-transfer sa PC yun mga tapes ko from beach outings and exhibits. parati naman out of stock yun firewire cards na mura.

    have you guys heard of the new JVC 4GB Microdrive. ok no! considering ang size lang ng isang DVD movie is more than 4GB. sana ma-push itong format na ito not only to videocams but also to digicams & computers.

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    agree with the other posts. definitely get a firewire card.

    ano ba system mo? you might be needing further upgrades na din eventually. for ex. HD, memory, processor and DVD burner. (dagdag gastos na naman hehehe)

    I'm using Pinnacle Studio 9 and Premiere 7 right now. pero more of premiere user ako kasi. ok lang yung mga nakukuha sa Greenhills. no problems with the software..

    currently naka-pass-thru ang DV camera ko sa firewire, anything I need to connect dumadaan na lang through this DV camera.

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    yebo: was just asking the same question to villman computers but for me it's for capturing dv images from my camcorder to a laptop. they reccomended Snazio Pocket PVR which costs P5998. see mo, www.snazio.com/Links/PVR.html meron din yata sila sa villman for a desktop, mas mura http://www.villman.com/
    sir yebo, hardware na ba ung encoding nya? im currently using a winfast TV 2000 deluxe, medyo nagiging choppy ung recordings on my p4 2ghz

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    badkuk,

    sorry don't know ehehehe! as i said, wala pa nga ako still looking for pa lang. may cd yata na kasama yun pvr, check mo yung site. available daw. wala ako masyado choices kasi nga laptop eh, kung desktop sana dami choices.

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    ic B). ang impression ko kc pag external type na tuners/recorders, hardware encoding na; kaso lang, when you read the specs, they don't explicitly mention this. kung ako nagbebenta ng tuner na me hw compression, i'd do my best to brag about it B)

    currently i'm saving up for a winfast pvr2000. from what i gather this is just barely above entry level, pero at least me hardware mpeg I/II encoding na

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    thanks po for all the suggestions!

    mushi: cge ill try to check din the taiwan video cards. sana nga i can find something that would suit my needs.

    dehadista: AMD ATHLON XP 1.2ghz, 80 GB, 512 RAM, Inno Tornado GE Force. Yan po specs ng pc ko.I think mejo ok na xa. kelangan ko nlng cguro tanggalin ung naka-install na NFS Underground. hehe.. sarap kse maglaro eh!

    ung Studio 9 mo po naka-unlock lhat ng effects? dko kse magamit kramihan ng SFX kse lumalabas ung pinnacle watermark. naghahanap nga ako ng free serials eh. haha... i agree that mas mganda gamitin ung Premiere 7 kya lng i still have to study it. pero eventually, un na din ang gagamitin ko.. the good thing about studio kse is that user-friendly tlga xa.. pero bumabagal sya kapag mabigat na ung project di ba? un lang ang nakakainis.

    badkuk: i also have winfastpvr. i use it when i capture tv programs. ok nga xa kse mpeg na kya lang the problem i have with this is when i try to edit it thru studio. before sa studio 8, nagha-hang ung video or entirely ayaw nya lumabas sa preview window. minsan ok xa pero minsan ayaw tlaga.. but this is just my experience

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    Hi Good Day!
    I'm using pinnacle studio 9 for the last 5 years unlock lahat ang rtfx, bravo pack etc. ang kasama lang nya is Php.250.00 na firewire card from CDR king. Edit din ako Video. Small time lang din planning to upgrade to pinnacle 14 ultimate collection hope may mabilan na ako this year. Adobe is still best pero if you want fast output DVD video ok na ang Studio 9. If you want to see sample Visit www.Azyfix.webs.com simple edit lang makikita mo dun.. if interested sa Studio 9 complete unlock contact me. ^_^

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    uvax,

    what model ba yun firewire pc card na yun? di ko makita sa villman website e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo
    uvax,

    what model ba yun firewire pc card na yun? di ko makita sa villman website e.
    http://www.villman.com/products/spec...ten/pf-103.asp

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