Heneral Luna

[testament11]

Ikaw na OB, ikaw na ang magaling!

[_Cathy_]

Ikaw na OB, ikaw na ang magaling!

Galing talaga ni OB

[n_spinner06]

because wall naman talaga wala naman talaga tayo history. We were all led to believe that what we experienced in those days is the same as what the American Forefathers did in Independence of America, it's an American Propaganda wverytime they colonize.

These characters: Rizal, Bonifacio, Luna brothers, Aquinaldo, Jacinto were all compiled hero stories to make us feel that we gor independence.

I studied critical history and you'd surprised to know how many of those taught in history books are untrue. Say for example, Leonor Rivera being wooed by a Spanish friar. Yes it sounds bad, imagine a priest lusting on a Filipina, but the actual truth is gusto gusto talaga ng Filipina noon araw ang mga mestizo and being a priest na sobra galing magsalita lalo pa attractive. Rizal is sour-graping.


And what about those several nationalities of different women that supposedly Rizal had relationship with. of course, the history books will portray that they are model girls types not the medicore / regular ones. Have you seen a regular conservative German girl like Josephine Bracken. They look like a girl with gigantism disease. And who really verified those womanizing that Rizal claimed eh sya lang naman umalis at nag-travel. Most basted people want to get out and travel alone. Halatang-halata na ayaw sa kanya. Rizal's writings are so tragic which reveals a lot about his mental state that time, similar to bullied but turned out travel blogger of modern times.

Actually, yun failure and anger nya contributed to the writings that led to the revolution. The question is why did he reject to join the revolution. Ayaw din nya lumaban, all talk but not action just like regular bloggers of today. During his execution, he was shot na naka-talikod, of course, the Spaniards would want him nakatalikod so as not to make a hero or martyr of him. But brave or real heroes suddenly face the executioners kung talaga hero material sila.

Long story short, the Luna brothers are described as narcicists, ego maniacs who never truly cared about the revolution but used the revolution to further their careers. Bonifacio, is like your ordinary jeepney driver of today who doesnt think about consequences but sugod-sugod na lang because of emotions. And Aguinaldo is yes the closest thing to a true politician, who lived and survived until the late 70s.


So much useless history taught to us in school, but the fact is the Americans bought us for $20000 from Spain, because Spain at the time was in brink of bankruptcy and civil war. Kahit na sinabi na kesyo the Katipunan daw attacked the rear of Intramuros while the american armada in Manila bay, everything has been decided na and for show na lang.

Do you even wonder how the independence was declared in Cavite yet Manila is still the capital. The KKK was in Csvite but Americans are in Manila, ask any Filipino now, have they been to Kawit? Do we recognize that place worthy of visiting. Wala. In fact, the cavitenos are the most nationalistic Filipinos but Manilans dont want to recognize that.

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nationalism filipino style is just like watching Boy Abunda or Kris Aquino. if you want to really experience true nationalism, go to the Smithsonians, the Louvre, and the Vatican museum. Doon talaga tatayo balahibo mo when you read human exploits about heroism and nationalism.

what you are saying maybe is true. but imho that is missing the point. nitpicking our history, of who wanted to be with whom, or how rizal's supposed women looked like, or nakaharap/nakatalikod/nakatuwad(stressing a point-not meant as an insult to rizal) si rizal nung binaril is not as important as the grand picture. Any of these doesn't change the fact that we as filipinos then and now are not united. It doesn't change the fact that then and now there are people in power who choose to serve themselves in the guise of advancing the people's interests. it doesn't even change the fact that these "heroes" contributed more to nation-building than any of us typing here.

we can only guess of our " heroes' " true motives or their psychological well-being or kung binasted sila or not. sure, si rizal nagsulat lang at ayaw lumaban. sabi mo all talk, no action. but who of us here in any capacity - writing, speaking, whatnot, have opened the consciousness of the masses enough to desire change (even through means as drastic as armed revolution) more than rizal? who of us here have influenced a nation, heck kahit a few individuals lang, to be more nationalistic and love our nation more? baka nga contribution pa natin through criticism like "wala naman talaga tayo history" counter productive pa. baka tayo ang all talk no action? have any of us risked life and limb for the country? kahit ego-maniac pa yan si luna at least pinaglaban ang pilipinas. countless people died nung american-filipino war be it combat/torture/etc. ito ba yung sinasabi mong "nationalism filipino style is just like watching Boy Abunda or Kris Aquino"? are we more nationalistic than they? masyado mo naman atang binababa ang pilipino.

to say that we as a nation doesn't have a history i think is immoderate. it may not suit your taste and is not as romantic as other people's like you claim but we do have a history. muddled or not, have we advanced in any way in the century that passed? importante pa ba kung mas nationalistic ang caviteno sa manilan? di ba ang goal e gawing nationalistic lahat ng pilipino ke ilokano, bisaya, waray, maguinadanaon, ivatan, katutubo, etc? e ano kung wala tayo exploits about heroism and nationalism like the ones in louvre, smithsonians, etc like you claim? di na dapat mahalin ang pilipinas at ang pilipino?

point ko lang talaga, let's not focus on the minor details of other people's lives pare, hero or not. all of us have our faults. narcissist si luna? hindi verified and womanizing ni rizal? pag-aawayan pa ba natin kung si leonor rivera ay may gusto sa pari o ang pari may gusto sa kanya? sabi nga nila sayang ang brain cells. instead, let us examine ourselves. gamitin na lang ang utak to advance the nation. antayin pa ba natin na magkaroon ng history na romantic at comparable sa iba ang pinas bago mahalin? di ba dapat mahalin na natin ngayon kahit sabihin na natin na pangit and hopefully enough of us would love enough para baguhin ang direksyon at magkaroon ng magandang ending kwento natin as a people and a nation?

Mabuhay ang PILIPINAS! Mabuhay ang PILIPINO!

[minicarph]

what you are saying maybe is true. but imho that is missing the point. nitpicking our history, of who wanted to be with whom, or how rizal's supposed women looked like, or nakaharap/nakatalikod/nakatuwad(stressing a point-not meant as an insult to rizal) si rizal nung binaril is not as important as the grand picture. Any of these doesn't change the fact that we as filipinos then and now are not united. It doesn't change the fact that then and now there are people in power who choose to serve themselves in the guise of advancing the people's interests. it doesn't even change the fact that these "heroes" contributed more to nation-building than any of us typing here.

we can only guess of our " heroes' " true motives or their psychological well-being or kung binasted sila or not. sure, si rizal nagsulat lang at ayaw lumaban. sabi mo all talk, no action. but who of us here in any capacity - writing, speaking, whatnot, have opened the consciousness of the masses enough to desire change (even through means as drastic as armed revolution) more than rizal? who of us here have influenced a nation, heck kahit a few individuals lang, to be more nationalistic and love our nation more? baka nga contribution pa natin through criticism like "wala naman talaga tayo history" counter productive pa. baka tayo ang all talk no action? have any of us risked life and limb for the country? kahit ego-maniac pa yan si luna at least pinaglaban ang pilipinas. countless people died nung american-filipino war be it combat/torture/etc. ito ba yung sinasabi mong "nationalism filipino style is just like watching Boy Abunda or Kris Aquino"? are we more nationalistic than they? masyado mo naman atang binababa ang pilipino.

to say that we as a nation doesn't have a history i think is immoderate. it may not suit your taste and is not as romantic as other people's like you claim but we do have a history. muddled or not, have we advanced in any way in the century that passed? importante pa ba kung mas nationalistic ang caviteno sa manilan? di ba ang goal e gawing nationalistic lahat ng pilipino ke ilokano, bisaya, waray, maguinadanaon, ivatan, katutubo, etc? e ano kung wala tayo exploits about heroism and nationalism like the ones in louvre, smithsonians, etc like you claim? di na dapat mahalin ang pilipinas at ang pilipino?

point ko lang talaga, let's not focus on the minor details of other people's lives pare, hero or not. all of us have our faults. narcissist si luna? hindi verified and womanizing ni rizal? pag-aawayan pa ba natin kung si leonor rivera ay may gusto sa pari o ang pari may gusto sa kanya? sabi nga nila sayang ang brain cells. instead, let us examine ourselves. gamitin na lang ang utak to advance the nation. antayin pa ba natin na magkaroon ng history na romantic at comparable sa iba ang pinas bago mahalin? di ba dapat mahalin na natin ngayon kahit sabihin na natin na pangit and hopefully enough of us would love enough para baguhin ang direksyon at magkaroon ng magandang ending kwento natin as a people and a nation?

Mabuhay ang PILIPINAS! Mabuhay ang PILIPINO!

We live in the world of internet and gllobalization, Nationalism, Patriotism are useless bsckward idelogies meant to hide what's really inside the person fighting for it - the feeling of belongingness.


America became the United States of America
Europe became the Euro zone
And now Middle East is transitioning into a one Islamic state
China even have to run a pseudo communist, capitalism socialist world in order to survive the modern world.


Para sa kin, tama na yun mga nationalistic tendencies na yan coz it's only doing more damage than good . Of course, at times kawawa ka, business mo if you see foreigners taking a bigger share in your own country. Eh ganun eh sacrifice ka.

The true essence of God and religion is to unite us all, free from nationalities, cultures and self-serving ideologies.

Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious. it's rigth who know coz sa mundo sino ba full pledge 'patriots' the left and thr right who are willing to destroy the country for their own agenda,

p.s, if a national criescorruption against Fellow-countrymen, That's not nationalism kahit i-convince pa sila sarili na, Nationalism is never internal

[Ry_Tower]

9/10 for me. Althoug siyempre being a history kind of guy hindi na masyado ako affected. But as good at Rizal of C.Montano.

[testament11]

Bravo OB, bravo!!! Bigyan ng jacket si OB!!!

BTT:
One of the things na gusto ko sa movie na ito is yun effects. Though gory man tignan, pero ang ganda ng execution ng effects. Bonus nalang sa movie na ito ang added humor ng mga characters. Like what others said, isang magandang eye opener ang movie na ito, to realize na ang mga nangyari before ay nangyayari ulit ngayon.

Mataas ang ni-set na standard ng Heneral Luna. I am expecting the second movie featuring Gregorio Del Pilar na on par with Heneral Luna. Parang Marvel movie tuloy yun style ng mid-credits

[ano727]

I heard Heneral Luna is the first of a trilogy, the second one being Gregorio del Pilar, not sure about the third one though.

It's not perfect, but I like it and recommend it to those who haven't seen it yet. More theaters have been added to accommodate the increased attention and demand after the reviews. Even sa Shang mall, it's currently shown in 2 cinemas.

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I heard Heneral Luna is the first of a trilogy, the second one being Gregorio del Pilar, not sure about the third one though.

It's not perfect, but I like it and recommend it to those who haven't seen it yet. More theaters have been added to accommodate the increased attention and demand after the reviews. Even sa Shang mall, it's currently shown in 2 cinemas.

[testament11]

I heard Heneral Luna is the first of a trilogy, the second one being Gregorio del Pilar, not sure about the third one though.

It's not perfect, but I like it and recommend it to those who haven't seen it yet. More theaters have been added to accommodate the increased attention and demand after the reviews. Even sa Shang mall, it's currently shown in 2 cinemas.

Sabi eh Quezon daw ang 3rd movie ng trilogy

[chua_riwap]

Galing talaga ni OB

Si OB nga ba yan? Aba, magaling na sya.

Alam mo kung sino nanood nung movie. Panay sabi ng "Puny€ta!"

Mga anak ko nanood. Sinabihan sila ng school nila to go & watch the movie. Discounted sila. P80 lang for students. Ganda nga raw ng Heneral Luna.

[CLAVEL3699]

dont like lang bakit hindi sinabi sa story ang katraydoran din ni Luna bago sya naging heneral.

Fall - Rise and Fall ni luna dapat yan.

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dont like lang bakit hindi sinabi sa story ang katraydoran din ni Luna bago sya naging heneral.

Fall - Rise and Fall ni luna dapat yan.