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[Karding]

nyah! ba't naman ganun yung site na yon? maguguluhan ka nga :mrgreen:

sa NASIOC maraming reklamador na EX-bimmer owners :evil: kaya makikita mo or mababasa kung ano talaga ang downside ng WRX :D but most of the time compare nga nila sa BMW luxury features 8O not fair...

[Macky]

OK yan.... mapuntahan nga....

[M]

Macky,
my question for you ... do you still need a wagon when you have a CR-V already?
then go back and ask yourself ... MSP? or WRX (sedan)?

Karding, how much would the difference be between a MSP and a WRX sedan (STi preferred of course)?

IMO, all-wheel drive would really be a worth while investement ... considering it wouldn't be too far off in price from the MSP you were eyeing.

[Macky]

M, hindi na nga namin kailangan ang wagon, pero since may baby kami..... daladala pa rin namin buong aparador every time na lalabas kami (i.e. stroller, baby bags, some toys, etc). Plus, may aso din kami like Karding. The wagon might be more practical....

About sa price difference, more or less $5K and diference nila (not the STi).

[Karding]

M, Right now if you are on the list (100 long for each dealer), and the dealer called you that you're STi is here, you will pay MSRP price of $31,545 or you can get it for $30K+tax+licenses. If you were on the list and not ready to purchase when the dealership calls you, it will be on the floor and you will pay $30K+$5K markup.

[Macky]

M, Right now if you are on the list (100 long for each dealer), and the dealer called you that you're STi is here, you will pay MSRP price of $31,545 or you can get it for $30K+tax+licenses. If you were on the list and not ready to purchase when the dealership calls you, it will be on the floor and you will pay $30K+$5K markup.

Ganyan dati yung process sa pagkuha ko ng MDX..... tapos yung ibang dealer, ibinibigay dun sa magbabayad ng mas malaki yung MDX mo kapag dumating at sasabihing na-move yung arrival ng MDX mo dahil sa kung anu-anong dahilan. Nag-inquire din ako dun sa Mazdaspeed Protege at sinabihan ako na kung MSRP ang ibabayad ko, may waiting list daw (minimum of a month) pero kung $2K over MSRP, baka 1 to 2 weeks lang ang waiting time o mas mabilis pa :roll:

[kiper]

Karding & Macky,

gwapo talaga ng WRX..kahit ako naglaway nung nakita ko sa tv yan..

ang gwapo..!! fafa..!!

pwede ba pang-rally yan..? pwede diba..!! saya..!!

meron dito sa pinas nyan kaso..ang mahal..!!

[Karding]

kiper, Rally inspired without the Rally tranny :mrgreen:

nung unang kuha ko ng WRX ko, akala ko nakasakay ako sa SUV...masyadong mataas compared sa old integra :mrgreen: kahit ngayong naka lowered na (just to get rid of the wheel gap) feeling ko mataas pa din kse yung headroom masyadong malawak.

Macky, may waiting list din pala ang MSP. di bale, bukas makalawa, baka wala nang waiting list. waiting ka muna til november :mrgreen:

[mazdamazda]

macky,

why not the MP3? it is one of the best handling cars around! even outclassing porsches in slalom tests...

[Macky]

macky,

why not the MP3? it is one of the best handling cars around! even outclassing porsches in slalom tests...

The Mazdaspeed Protege is basically an MP3 on steroids (spelled as turbo)...... gandang-ganda na ako sa kanya noon pa kaya lang parang mas gusto nung mga nasa protege site na ibinigay mo ang WRX :roll:

[Karding]

Macky, Kung makakapag hintay ka pa til next year, Legacy Turbo 250HP with NAVI is coming to town....of course AWD is standard 8)

SUBARU....no need for advertisements :mrgreen:

[Macky]

Mukhang worth waiting yan a 8O Any news sa pricing :?:

[Karding]

Legacy B4 with Titanium-Aluminum turbine wheel/ Twin scroll turbocharger. Macky, wala pang definite price pero kung convert ang price from YEN to DOLLAR...

1. the most inexpensive edition 2.0i casual edition (the sport shift 4AT) from 2,050,000 Yen ($17,549 USD equiv)
2. the highest value edition 2.0GT spec.B (the sport shift 5AT) to 3,100,000 Yen($26,536 USD).

With the development the B4 with all the 7 grades,
3. the most inexpensive edition 2.0i (the sport shift 4AT) from 2,030,000 Yen ($17,378 USD)
4. the highest value edition 2.0GT spec.B (the sport shift 5AT) to 2,950,000 Yen.($25,252 USD)

guesstimate.

http://allabout.co.jp/auto/chcontentsauto/closeup/CU20030523/05.jpg

http://car.nifty.com/as/newcar/express/img/0305234164_2_4_l.jpg

http://car.nifty.com/as/newcar/express/img/0305234164_2_3_l.jpg

EDIT:
250HP 5AT and 276HP 5MT
Then...
Legacy B4 STi version 350HP 8O sa Japan pa lang.

[gab0105]

macky and karding,
binabasa ko yung thread kasi gusto ko rin yang subaru lalo na nasa colorado ako kaya lang marami akong naririnig sabi nag leak na raw after 60 to 70 thousand miles kaya nag dalawang isip ako.saka mahal daw maintenace compara sa ibang japanese car.
dalawa na rin yung anak ko kaya yung forester medyo masikip yung likod kaya di na ko natuloy.anyway good luck.sa edmunds mraming subaru fananatic.

[Karding]

gab0105, marami ding nagsabi sakin na kesyo mahal daw ang maintenance ng AWD. Iniisip kse nung mga tao na yon, instead na two wheel lang ang maintain mo, apat naman sa AWD. I still went out to get the WRX because I believe each car has their own consequences, it all depends if you are willing to deal with it in lieu of personal satisfaction.

Here's something to consider and might help you decide even further Macky:

Operating Cost:

These are the ongoing "out of pocket" costs associated with owning and operating a vehicle: Financing, Insurance, Taxes & Fees, Fuel, Maintenance, and Repairs. This rating displays the vehicle's relative ranking in terms of operating costs when compared to the other vehicles in its category.

2003 WRX:
0.50/mile
Maintenance:
YR 1: $358
YR 2: $807
YR 3: $468
YR 4: $1824
YR 5: $1362
5 Year Total: $4,819

Repairs:
YR 1: $0
YR 2: $0
YR 3: $115
YR 4: $276
YR 5: $405
5 Year Total: $796

Plus Insurance, Fuel, Financing, Taxes & Fees.
Yearly Totals:$37,473


2003 MazdaSpeed Protege
0.49/mile
Maintenance:
YR 1: $410
YR 2: $677
YR 3: $542
YR 4: $989
YR 5: $2,180
5 Year Total: $4,798

Repairs:
YR 1: $0
YR 2: $0
YR 3: $0
YR 4: $220
YR 5: $528
5 Year Total: $748

Plus Insurance, Fuel, Financing, Taxes & Fees.
Yearly Totals: $36,845

the one cent difference is worth every mile with the AWD, Boxer TC engine, IMHO.

[Macky]

Wala bang front view? Yung rear parang Volvo....

ABout dun sa leaks, lahat naman ng kotse prone sa leaks. Basta imentain mo lang ng maayos para hindi masakit sa bulsa in the long run.

[Karding]

Macky, yan din ang nasa isip ko about leaks. Pero I dont wanna sound like I know for a fact na hindi mag leak ang Subaru. About the maintenance cost naman, ang pananaw ko kse sa buhay "Kung gusto kong kumain ng masarap, kailangan kong gumastos." Kung ayaw ng magastos sa maintenance, kuha na lang sila ng Corolla. 8)

anyway, eto yung front shot. Acura TL made love with S4 daw ang New Legacy :mrgreen:

http://car.nifty.com/as/newcar/express/img/0305234164_2_2_l.jpg

[mazdamazda]

SUBARU....no need for advertisements :mrgreen:

then why are you heavily advertising subaru while the topic is MAZDA FORUMS?

just a thought.


Macky, does the MSP have the gizmos of the MP3?

[M]

SUBARU....no need for advertisements :mrgreen:

then why are you heavily advertising subaru while the topic is MAZDA FORUMS?

just a thought.
Macky, does the MSP have the gizmos of the MP3?

because from the previous mazda forums that macky visited, ito yung debate (as per macky, forumers suggest getting the scooby rather than the MSP).

hey macky,
if that's your plan, by all means, go for the scooby.

however, if it was me, i'd keep the CR-V for the family (any day) and get the WRX sedan (STi preferred) for weekend romps (and i meant that in a good way). :twisted:

[Macky]

Macky, does the MSP have the gizmos of the MP3?

Yup plus turbo :twisted:

SiR, sorry for the WRX inquiry..... medyo naging interesado ulit ako sa kanya since nung nag-research ako dun sa protege site na ibinigay mo, pulos WRX ang suggestion nung mga mazda forumers.