MAZDA Cost of Maintenance/Ownership after YOJIN 3

[Archerfish]

Hello everyone. Newbie here.

I just want to ask lang sana because I bought a Mazda 2 some months ago. To my surprise the Mazda2s they sell in 2018 are apparently NOT included with Yojin3, much to my surprise and disappointment. They only informed me that when I was there to get my car. This means I have to pay for all my PMS. The only thing my Yojin does is get roadside assistance during emergency which is pretty useless. Anyway, tanong ko lang po if you guys know how much is the cost for the PMS on the 6th month (10,000km) and what will they do with my car. It's barely used actually. Not even on its 1,500 km mark after 4 months.

Salamat po.

It seems that this is the effect of TRAIN to Mazda...

You can expect about 3,000 to 5,000 Pesos. This is basing from my own estimate with Yojin's Warranty. Since the dealer will surely have a mark-up on their prices​, business as usual, be prepared to shell out 5,000.

To answer your other question, change oil and oil filter and then they will do part inspection.

Congratulations on your new car!

[Richard Yap]

is it safe to drive with istop and battery maintenance on? i don't know why it happened maybe i forgot to turn off my headlights over night

[travajante]

is it safe to drive with istop and battery maintenance on? i don't know why it happened maybe i forgot to turn off my headlights over night

Just turn iStop off. Have your batt checked. Do you have a jumpstart/powerbank kit? Keep 1 handy.

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[StockEngine]

is it safe to drive with istop and battery maintenance on? i don't know why it happened maybe i forgot to turn off my headlights over night

i think mazda has battery protection if you leave your headlights on at night.

[genedg]

OEM battery of my cx5 lasted for 35 months and 27k on the ODO before it started leaking.

Now im using an ordinary amaron pro 2sm battery, no master alarm or error codes yet.

Istop batt from casa is 14k and the amaron im using is 5.1k only.

Just need to replace the battery before the master alarm kicks in because only the CASA can reset or clear the error codes.





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Good day sir, I have a cx-5 Maxx variant 2016, just wanted to know how the battery is and if your still using it.thank you

[travajante]

Good day sir, I have a cx-5 Maxx variant 2016, just wanted to know how the battery is and if your still using it.thank you

There is a reason why designers specify EFB or AGM for cars w/ Start/Stop systems. If the cheaper regular flooded batts were sufficient & would pose no risks on the complex system, they probably would've recommended just that.
Let's hope going hobo w/ the iStop won't bite anyone back. Here's a related article of warning from greenflag.com...

"Drivers with start-stop cars pay the price for choosing cheap batteries

Drivers are paying more than they have to for replacement car batteries because they don’t realise that cars featuring eco technology need specialist equipment. Frequently, cheap batteries bought for start-stop cars then fail relatively swiftly because they aren’t up to the job they’ve been bought for.
Nearly two thirds (60 per cent) of the cars sold in Europe now have either start-stop or energy recuperation technology. This is where the engine automatically shuts down when the car comes to a rest. It then fires up again as soon as the driver dips the clutch, or in an automatic, releases the foot brake. Start-stop is estimated to cut fuel use by between five and 10 per cent. Energy recuperation harvests the kinetic energy that’s usually wasted as a car slows down.
But in order for these smart technologies to work, cars need to have special batteries. These Absorbent Glass Mat (AGM) and Enhanced Flooded Batteries (EFB) last longer than regular lead acid cells. This is because they’re designed to retain sufficient charge to be strong enough to power a car’s various electrical systems such as the windscreen wipers, ventilation and sound system while the engine is turned off.
Spares company Euro Car Parts has reported a 100 per cent year-on-year increase over the first three months of 2016 in sales of AGM and EFB batteries. But it warned that some drivers ignore their car’s requirement for a special battery. Company CEO Martin Gray said: “It is no longer a case of any old battery will do. It’s about choosing the right battery. If you fit an incorrect battery to a car with start-stop, it might work initially but certain systems will soon begin to fail, starting with things like the radio, air con and electric windows, and then more vital systems, such as the start-stop function itself.”
Understandably, drivers are being tempted to choose cheaper batteries by the difference in price between regular and start-stop batteries. A battery for a Volkswagen Golf-size car without start-stop will cost £85 including a four-year guarantee, from motor retailer Halfords. However, an AGM battery for the same size car will cost £149. And it will cost around £15 more to fit an AGM battery compared to the less sophisticated sort. While the majority of batteries are guaranteed for four years and can go on to last between five and seven years, a regular battery that’s fitted to a car needing an AGM type may struggle to outlast its guarantee."




The safest route here would be to grab the proper spec'd EFB or AGM & condition it w/ a CTEK CT5 Start/Stop to squeeze & extend the life out of that Php14k Batt....you get to keep the system's warranty that way, too....just my 2cents.

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[c_cube]

Good day sir, I have a cx-5 Maxx variant 2016, just wanted to know how the battery is and if your still using it.thank you

Yup, still using up to this reply. More or less 32 months already

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[jojopad]

Yup, still using up to this reply. More or less 32 months already

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That's pretty impressive for a hobo Amaron battery. Are you using ctek to keep the battery charge in optimum level? How about error codes or issues from the car's electronics? None so far?

I guess as long as the iStop feature is not used, there shouldn't be an issue with using a non EFB for a mazda car/suv equipped with iStop.

[c_cube]

That's pretty impressive for a hobo Amaron battery. Are you using ctek to keep the battery charge in optimum level? How about error codes or issues from the car's electronics? None so far?

I guess as long as the iStop feature is not used, there shouldn't be an issue with using a non EFB for a mazda car/suv equipped with iStop.

Not using ctek. Just normal usage.

Yes, not using the istop. So it works as a regular battery but sometimes I use it if traffic flow is good

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[xxxpinpointxxx]

Share ko lang din. We have a 2016 CX-5 Pro with the i-stop. When the original battery died after less than 2 years, we replaced it with Motolite Excel (the green-labelled). The casa battery is just very expensive. Up to now, more than a year after, the battery is still going strong. No errors so far. When Im driving, i always turn the i-stop off. And when the i-stop is on, it also works, and stops the engine for about 30 to 45 seconds before it turns back on again.

[genedg]

[QUOTE=c_cube;3059690]Yup, still using up to this reply. More or less 32 months already

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Thank you for that feedback Sir, Im considering that option when it soon arrives, maybe around this summer

[Yatta]

The i-Stop batteries (either from official Mazda or Motolite-branded) are deep-cycle types. They can be discharged to less than 50% their capacity and atill work. Normal car batteries at that condition has to be discarded. Downaide is they are heavier and morw expensive.

[balongbalong]

I would expect if you service thru dealers it will be more expensive than your toyotas or hondas.

babawiin talaga ng mazda yan yoijin, either thru their srp yan imputted na or thru future services and parts sales that is more expensive than usual.

Not long ago i inquired in two dealerships cost of the cabin filter and its 3500 if i recall, thats as expensive as bmw cabin filter, dealers price. Smuggled oems 1500 only.

Toyotas, hyundais, etc ave 1500 only at dealers, cheaper outside, and even more cheaper if oem.

I expect the other consumables to be priced higher also than usual.

Like what others have mentioned have it serviced in your trusted mechanic, cheaper and you know service is really done and done properly.

[dreamur]

More like built in na sa SRP.

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[new_2_cars]

I joined this site to ask questions about pickup trucks. Isuzu DMax to be exact. But we reviewed our priorities and settle for a car instead. I've searched online for different variants, according to our needs, and decided to go with Mazda 3 Skyactiv V. That Yojin3 offer is hard to resist and not to mention, this car is a looker. Were planning to buy it this week and even pay the reservation fee for the color we want. So yes, is it really that expensive to own a Mazda vehicle after the Yojin3 expires? Are the parts that rare compared to Ford vehicles? Were planning to keep the car for more than 5 years.

[rfj]

must dispose of my mazda 6 before yojin expires, less than 2 yrs palang already changed batt 3 times already

[Egan101]

must dispose of my mazda 6 before yojin expires, less than 2 yrs palang already changed batt 3 times already

2 years, 3 batteries already? Is it that bad?

Maybe you can switch off the i-stop system and let the car run on the usual engine power. It may not be as efficient as Mazda claim it to be but it may preserve the battery longer than a year.

[rfj]

2 years, 3 batteries already? Is it that bad?

Maybe you can switch off the i-stop system and let the car run on the usual engine power. It may not be as efficient as Mazda claim it to be but it may preserve the battery longer than a year.

Never used the i-stop sir, i'd make sure its always turned off, even dealership don't have any idea what to do.

[testament11]

must dispose of my mazda 6 before yojin expires, less than 2 yrs palang already changed batt 3 times already

Something is wrong with your system or maybe pangit ang battery na binibigay sa iyo. Dapat under warranty yan and 1 strike pa, pwede ka na mag-invoke ng lemon law

[Walter]

Something is wrong with your electrical system if you keep on changing battery. OR it could be human error, forgetting to turn off interior lights or park lights often and leaving them overnight. OR you have something plugged in that's draining the battery.