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    #41
    Kung makakapghintay ung OP siguro nga its best to wait. Pero kung kagaya ko na kelangan talaga ng car, the best sub-800k car right now is the mazda3 1.6s imho. (819 minus discount and free lto totals to 764k)

    But if 1m ung budget.. ill go for focus TDCI.. grabe baba price ng diesel fuel.

    Btw, me hindi ako maintindihan sa mazda3 fuel consumption info

    1. Manually computed: Naglagay ako ng 20ltrs nung dumilaw.. nakatakbo ako ng 182kms bago nagdilaw ulit so -- lumalabas 9kms/ltr.

    2. Pero ayun sa 'info'.. my average consumption is 12.5ltrs/100km. So its 8kms/ltr.

    3. Naglagay ulit ako 20ltrs.. and dumagdag nmn sa 'remaining kms' is 230kms. So 230/20 is 11.5kms/ltr.

    fyi: there is a button called 'info' wherein it tells you this - curr ltr/100kms, ave ltr/100 kms, remaining kms, ave speed.

    where the heck does the on-board computer gets its numbers... i dont know. weird..

    -> And, nasan ung 'pause' pag nagpapatugtug ng CD. Dko makita ung pause.. napindot ko na ata lahat.. wala ba talaga nun?

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    #42
    Quote Originally Posted by jrebong0 View Post
    where the heck does the on-board computer gets its numbers... i dont know. weird..
    its not difficult for the ecu to get those figures. it can measure fuel consumption through fuel regulation and odometer reading. it can also calculate assumptions based on you driving habits.

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    #43
    jre, manual logging of the consumption is still the most reliable.

    full tank mo kotse, go for X kms distance. Full tank mo ulit.

    X kms distance on the trip meter (meron siguro yang trip meter) / the quantity of fuel you needed to fill it to full again. = kms/L.

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    #44
    maganda ang porma ng 09 mazda 3... at least different, along with the lancer ex...

    but the 2010 mazda 3 seems to be a looker too...



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    #45
    Quote Originally Posted by jrebong0 View Post
    Kung makakapghintay ung OP siguro nga its best to wait. Pero kung kagaya ko na kelangan talaga ng car, the best sub-800k car right now is the mazda3 1.6s imho. (819 minus discount and free lto totals to 764k)

    But if 1m ung budget.. ill go for focus TDCI.. grabe baba price ng diesel fuel.

    Btw, me hindi ako maintindihan sa mazda3 fuel consumption info

    1. Manually computed: Naglagay ako ng 20ltrs nung dumilaw.. nakatakbo ako ng 182kms bago nagdilaw ulit so -- lumalabas 9kms/ltr.

    2. Pero ayun sa 'info'.. my average consumption is 12.5ltrs/100km. So its 8kms/ltr.

    3. Naglagay ulit ako 20ltrs.. and dumagdag nmn sa 'remaining kms' is 230kms. So 230/20 is 11.5kms/ltr.

    fyi: there is a button called 'info' wherein it tells you this - curr ltr/100kms, ave ltr/100 kms, remaining kms, ave speed.

    where the heck does the on-board computer gets its numbers... i dont know. weird..

    -> And, nasan ung 'pause' pag nagpapatugtug ng CD. Dko makita ung pause.. napindot ko na ata lahat.. wala ba talaga nun?
    sir anong model po ang mazda 3 nyo?sakin kase 08 model trip a and trip ba lang po ang nakalagay wala pong info kung ilang litro ang nakonsumo mo sa takbo mo..

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    #46
    *Horsepower

    Thank you for the suggestions, I also like the Ford TDCi, problem is.. its way overboard my budget na, it is currently at 1.17m+ Same with the EX, the top of the line GT-A retails for 1.2m+ These two cars were also my candidates, I'd personally like my car to be a balanced of aethetics and performance.

    Tagal ko ring pinag isipan to, but in the end, naisip ko na I like the styling of the mazda 3 better, and theres something in me that wants to "experience" it. The 2010 model can be my next car if its worth it

    I already got quotes from agents of different dealers, I just noticed na mas mahal ang Monthly Amortization sa quotes nila compared to a bank auto loan? I maybe wrong but which path did u guys took when u purchased your mazda 3? Did you consider applying for an auto loan?

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    #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Impulze View Post
    I already got quotes from agents of different dealers, I just noticed na mas mahal ang Monthly Amortization sa quotes nila compared to a bank auto loan? I maybe wrong but which path did u guys took when u purchased your mazda 3? Did you consider applying for an auto loan?
    This is a sample computation I made when i was in the same boat:

    In-house:
    Free chattel, insurance, lto. Kaso 10% per year. Kung 450k ang loan for 3 years that will be 135k.. Minus natin ung dealer discount 55k and and it will total to about 80k additional that will have to be paid.

    Bank:
    Nagloan ako sa BDO-greenhills. He gave me a flat 16% for 3 years. 450k principal so 72k ang tinubo ng bank sakin. Add to that ung chattel(10k) and insurance(20k) (Nalibre nako ng LTO ng dealer ko). Then minus natin ung dealer discount.. 72+20+10-55=47k additional that will be payed in total.

    kaya bank loan ako. Dito ako kumuha


    Quote Originally Posted by actor21
    sir anong model po ang mazda 3 nyo? sakin kase 08 model trip a and trip ba lang po ang nakalagay wala pong info kung ilang litro ang nakonsumo mo sa takbo mo..
    2009 1.6S ung pinakamurang MZ3. TripA and tripB lang din dun sa odometer.. Pero dun sa me mahabang LCD screen for the sound system.. me katabi ung clock button na 'info' button. Pag pinindot, lalabas sa LCD ung mga information.

    -- Marami ata idinagdag sa current mz3 1.6s na wala sa dati. Meron na rin aux-in saka maganda na ung triple meter nya. Red on blue. White lang daw dati un sabi nung ofc mate ko na bumili last october lang. Meron pa iba pero dko na maalala..

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    #48
    Quote Originally Posted by jrebong0 View Post
    This is a sample computation I made when i was in the same boat:

    In-house:
    Free chattel, insurance, lto. Kaso 10% per year. Kung 450k ang loan for 3 years that will be 135k.. Minus natin ung dealer discount 55k and and it will total to about 80k additional that will have to be paid.

    Bank:
    Nagloan ako sa BDO-greenhills. He gave me a flat 16% for 3 years. 450k principal so 72k ang tinubo ng bank sakin. Add to that ung chattel(10k) and insurance(20k) (Nalibre nako ng LTO ng dealer ko). Then minus natin ung dealer discount.. 72+20+10-55=47k additional that will be payed in total.

    kaya bank loan ako. Dito ako kumuha




    2009 1.6S ung pinakamurang MZ3. TripA and tripB lang din dun sa odometer.. Pero dun sa me mahabang LCD screen for the sound system.. me katabi ung clock button na 'info' button. Pag pinindot, lalabas sa LCD ung mga information.

    -- Marami ata idinagdag sa current mz3 1.6s na wala sa dati. Meron na rin aux-in saka maganda na ung triple meter nya. Red on blue. White lang daw dati un sabi nung ofc mate ko na bumili last october lang. Meron pa iba pero dko na maalala..
    Eto yung differences ng 2008 1.6 S sa 2009 model kung di ako ngakakamali:

    2009 1.6 S
    - Black out meters
    - 6 CD changer
    - Trip Computer(FC, Range,etc)
    - ABS
    - 2 Airbags

    Kung alam ko lang na magiging ganito specs ng 2009 S baka S na rin binili ko pero hindi naman ako nagsisisi sa V. Dahil enjoy ko yung 16 inch mags and Automatic climate control, Map lights, fog lamps and 2 tweeters na wala pa rin sa S.

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Impulze View Post
    *Horsepower

    Thank you for the suggestions, I also like the Ford TDCi, problem is.. its way overboard my budget na, it is currently at 1.17m+ Same with the EX, the top of the line GT-A retails for 1.2m+ These two cars were also my candidates, I'd personally like my car to be a balanced of aethetics and performance.

    Tagal ko ring pinag isipan to, but in the end, naisip ko na I like the styling of the mazda 3 better, and theres something in me that wants to "experience" it. The 2010 model can be my next car if its worth it

    I already got quotes from agents of different dealers, I just noticed na mas mahal ang Monthly Amortization sa quotes nila compared to a bank auto loan? I maybe wrong but which path did u guys took when u purchased your mazda 3? Did you consider applying for an auto loan?

    Sa akin 2008 Mazda 3 1.6 V model, BDO, 5 years to pay 32% interest ang kinuha ko instead of availing In-house financing. Nakatipid ako ng around 100K. Nakaka-deceive kasi yung In-house financing. Meron pa nga yung AIG(dont know kung meron pang promo), first 3 months wala kang babayaran pero pag kinompute mo interest mga 50% in 5 years.

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    #50
    Thanks for the input guys, so mas mura talga ung Auto loan just like sa computation ko, specially if BDO (lower than bpi). Paano ba ang process dito, kelangan ko pa bang dumaan sa isang Mazda Agent or ung Bank Manager ang bahalang makipag usap sa dealers/agents? If in case of the latter, so wala na kong control dito kung anong freebies ang pede kong i request? And ang first step ba dito is to apply for an auto loan?

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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Impulze View Post
    Thanks for the input guys, so mas mura talga ung Auto loan just like sa computation ko, specially if BDO (lower than bpi). Paano ba ang process dito, kelangan ko pa bang dumaan sa isang Mazda Agent or ung Bank Manager ang bahalang makipag usap sa dealers/agents? If in case of the latter, so wala na kong control dito kung anong freebies ang pede kong i request? And ang first step ba dito is to apply for an auto loan?
    Pwedeng apply ka muna ng loan kahit na hindi pa final yung price nung unit(baka kasi may maibigay pang mas mura sa ibang dealer) then, pag appove na loan, i-finalize na sa SA yung last price ng unit including freebies. Bahala na yung bank na makipag-coordinate sa SA regarding sa payment. Kung gusto mo pang makatipid, pwedeng ikaw na bahala maghanap ng car insurer or pwedeng sa bank na lang. Yung nga lang mas mahal.

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    #52
    Quote Originally Posted by lamborghinione View Post
    Pwedeng apply ka muna ng loan kahit na hindi pa final yung price nung unit(baka kasi may maibigay pang mas mura sa ibang dealer) then, pag appove na loan, i-finalize na sa SA yung last price ng unit including freebies. Bahala na yung bank na makipag-coordinate sa SA regarding sa payment. Kung gusto mo pang makatipid, pwedeng ikaw na bahala maghanap ng car insurer or pwedeng sa bank na lang. Yung nga lang mas mahal.
    I see, so kelangan ko pa rin mag approach ng SA then inform him na gusto kong i purchase ung car through car loan, then at the same time makakapg request ako ng freebies and discount from the SA? Ito ba ang tamang diskarte? heheheh

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    #53
    Quote Originally Posted by lamborghinione View Post
    Eto yung differences ng 2008 1.6 S sa 2009 model kung di ako ngakakamali:

    2009 1.6 S
    - Black out meters
    - 6 CD changer
    - Trip Computer(FC, Range,etc)
    - ABS
    - 2 Airbags

    Kung alam ko lang na magiging ganito specs ng 2009 S baka S na rin binili ko pero hindi naman ako nagsisisi sa V. Dahil enjoy ko yung 16 inch mags and Automatic climate control, Map lights, fog lamps and 2 tweeters na wala pa rin sa S.
    dude ito lang ang meron sa 2009 model "Trip Computer(FC, Range,etc)" kakatawag ko lang sa mazda makati..papakabitan ko din sakin 08 model kung ubra hehehe

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    #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Impulze View Post
    I see, so kelangan ko pa rin mag approach ng SA then inform him na gusto kong i purchase ung car through car loan, then at the same time makakapg request ako ng freebies and discount from the SA? Ito ba ang tamang diskarte? heheheh
    To maximize savings from interest payments to the bank and maximize also
    freebies and discounts from SA. Pero kung mas prefer mong less hassle if not hassle-free, coordinate mo na lang lahat sa Bank.

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    #55
    Quote Originally Posted by actor21 View Post
    dude ito lang ang meron sa 2009 model "Trip Computer(FC, Range,etc)" kakatawag ko lang sa mazda makati..papakabitan ko din sakin 08 model kung ubra hehehe
    Eto ata ung nasa car ko:

    MZR series
    1 New Instrumentation Lower Panel Color
    2 1 – disc In - dash MP3 CD Player (6 CD)
    3 New Trip Computer
    4 New Black flat Woven Seats w/ New Door Trim design
    5 New Design 15” Aluminum Alloy Wheels & 195/ 65R15 Tires
    6 New Front and Rear Bumper Design
    7 New Rear Combination Lamps
    8 New Grille Design – Bright Design


    Wala ata ako ABS saka passenger airbags.. Doublcheck ko nga paglabas ko ng office maya.

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    #56
    Guys, thanks alot! i just found this thread is so informative... hey, Impulze, thanks dude for replying my message. im just like you... this will be my first car ever, so excited, basta, im gonna claim this car as my baby this year... i have been dreaming for it for a long time already... i hope i can finance it and pay it by my own without asking any penny from my parents...

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    #57
    You're still better off with the Lancer EX CVT. 153hp/199Nm. Power:Weight is just right kaya matipid (and obviously because of the 7-speed(?) CVT transmission).

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    #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    You're still better off with the Lancer EX CVT. 153hp/199Nm. Power:Weight is just right kaya matipid (and obviously because of the 7-speed(?) CVT transmission).
    Is this the basis of SAs from Mitsu dealers why they claim FC(City) of Lancer 2.0 is 11 km/liter? Pag galing kasi sa SA yung FC hindi ko kasi pinaniniwalaan, exagerated ng konti. If 11 km/liter is true, matipid sya and you can get almost the same Hp as the Civic 2.0L.

    Anyway, based sa latest car reviews sa US, talo pa rin daw ng Mazda 3 2.0 at 2.3 yung Lancer EX especially kung road handling ang pag-uusapan. Gusto ko pa rin looks ng Mazda 3 vs Lancer sa rear view, sa front view, Lancer ako.

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    #59
    Independent tests locally have netted good FCs both highway and city.

    Reading reviews from US is okay but it's attuned to their local setting and audience, remember, their roads are different and people there drive differently. Ever wonder how they end up in 3-dozen car piles most of the time in their freeways? hehehe.

    Best thing to do, in any case, is a lengthy test drive with an objective mind. ^_^

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    #60
    About FC:

    I am testing my FC by batches of 20 liters. That is to say, I wait for the yellow low gas indicator, put 20ltrs, then wait for yellow indicator again and see how far Ive traveled and compute from there.

    Trial 1: City: Traveled 182kms - About 9kms/ltr (Pasig,Ortigas,Antipolo -- Mostly Light traffic )
    Trial 2; Highway: Traveled 255kms - About 12.5kms/ltr (Pasig,Batangas,Tagaytay)
    Trial 3: City: Traveled 169kms - About 8kms/ltr (Pasig,Ortigas,Antipolo -- Light-Heavy traffic)

    Note: wala pa 1000 kms car ko. Ill retest when I reach 1000, 3000 and 5000

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