a new benchmark for 2.2li CrDI engines!

[parakitoJDM]

Mazda Philippines, eto dapat ilabas din sa Pinas! di lang puro Kia & Hyundai naglalabas ng modern/powerful CrDI engines (hhhm take Ford Focus pala meron. hehe).

fit this one with 6A/T and priced around Php1.5M (below Accord/Camry) and u have a winner. saka sana gamitin din 'tong engine na 'to sa Mazda5, or Tribute....come on Bring it on!

There’s more power to Mazda’s family car! The firm says that with a fresh 182bhp 2.2-litre diesel engine on board, this latest 6 sets new standards for performance and refinement. And Auto Express has been given exclusive access to see if the unit, which makes its debut in the UK next year, really can deliver.


The 2.2-litre engine is dubbed MZR – short for Mazda Responsive. At idle, noise from it is not intrusive, even on the early car we drove. Slot the six-speed transmission into first and, with 400Nm driving the front wheels, performance is impressive. All that torque has also allowed Mazda to fit longer gear ratios, enabling the engine to rev lower, so it consumes less fuel.

Driving in town, the unit is smooth and responsive, and will even pull hard in third gear at 30mph. However, if you go much slower, the revs drop below 1,800rpm, causing the turbocharger to stop spinning and making the engine grumble as a result. But that’s only a small gripe. Mazda acknowledges that the 6 will be more at home during long trips on the motorway. When the turbo is boosting in third gear – as it would be when accelerating down a slip road at a major junction – the engine punches from 30mph to 62mph a full 1.7 seconds faster than the outgoing 2.0-litre oil-burning unit. And, when the car is cruising at motorway speeds, the motor is incredibly quiet and smooth. Overtaking is an effortless manoeuvre.


Mazda is right to be confident about its latest oil-burner. In the 6, it’s remarkably refined at higher speeds, yet remains flexible in town. And although it weighs 6kg more than the outgoing engine, it produces an extra 44bhp and 70Nm of torque, while returning similar emissions figures.

Despite the brand’s links with Ford, this diesel is purely a Mazda project, and isn’t based on the powerplant recently introduced in the Mondeo. We’ll test the cars together when the diesel 6 arrives here next year – and on this evidence the Ford faces a stiff challenge.

FIRST OPINION
Mazda’s improved diesel engine is the first of a whole raft of new, more efficient and stronger units set to enter the range in the next couple of years. It’s off to a good start, too, as it’s likely to run the equivalent Mondeo unit close. The motor will also feature in the forthcoming 3 – and such is its potential that a diesel 3 MPS is now a possibility.


AT A GLANCE
Price: £21,500 (est)
Engine: 2.2-litre 4cyl turbodiesel
Power: 182bhp
Torque: 400Nm
0-62mph: 9.5 seconds (est)
Top speed: 135mph (est) {around 217kph}
Economy: 50.4mpg {around 20kp/l}
CO2: 147g/km (est)
On sale: 2009 Spring (in UK)

[coiter]

wow. 182 hp and 400NM of torque? from a 2.2L? with a realistc mileage of 10-15 kms/l? sana magkaroon nga sa mazda3. time to save up!

[AG4]

wow. 182 hp and 400NM of torque? from a 2.2L?

Turbocharged commonrail diesel engines are getting stronger.

BMW 123d 2.0 liter
Power: 204 PS (201 hp)
Torque 400 Nm

Ford Mondeo 2.2 TDCi
Power: 175 PS (173 hp)
Torque 400 Nm & 420 Nm with transient overboost

Toyota Auris SR180 2.2 D-4D
Power: 177 PS (175 hp)
Torque 400 Nm

[niky]

BMW's 2.0 is already at 170 hp... and can be "chipped" for 200... but it's supposedly very peaky at that power point.

[AG4]

BMW's 2.0 is already at 170 hp... and can be "chipped" for 200... but it's supposedly very peaky at that power point.

Maybe thats the reason BMW gave the 123d Variable Twin Turbos to get 204PS from the 2.0 liter engine.

PS: The 120d, 320d, 520d's engine makes 177PS.

[coiter]

i see. cool. how i wish i had one of those in my rig :D

[yapoy86]

Mazda Philippines, eto dapat ilabas din sa Pinas! di lang puro Kia & Hyundai naglalabas ng modern/powerful CrDI engines (hhhm take Ford Focus pala meron. hehe).

hindi lang naman puro kia at hyundai ang naglabas ng CRDi engine eh.. Toyota, Ford, Isuzu naglabas din, iba-iba lang ang tawag at versions, may D4D, TDCi, I-Teq, etc... but all uses the same principle of Common rail and computer controlled injection... most vehicles with CRDi logo will usually use the Bosch system..

[niky]

It's the price and the fuel quality that prevent others from bringing their better engines in. Our fuel is pretty bad on diesels... and many manufacturers are finding local diesel unsuitable for their more advanced diesels (if our fuel were better, we could get the near-300 hp twin turbo 3 liter diesel from BMW... mhmmm... ).

[Bogeyman]

Well, there's hope yet, if Seaoil pushes through with its plan to supply the country with Euro 5 compliant diesel fuel.

[parakitoJDM]

hindi lang naman puro kia at hyundai ang naglabas ng CRDi engine eh.. Toyota, Ford, Isuzu naglabas din, iba-iba lang ang tawag at versions, may D4D, TDCi, I-Teq, etc... but all uses the same principle of Common rail and computer controlled injection... most vehicles with CRDi logo will usually use the Bosch system..

yes i know Toyota, Isuzu & Ford are offering their version of Common rail diesels. but we need to see their latest offering 3rd. Generation Common Rail systems. they're using Piezo injectors at much higher pressure capable of providing much more power. see the BMW 2.0d can output 170hp, and Mazda's 2.2 MZR can output >180hp.... the 3.0li D4D is only rated 165hp. even worse the 2.5li D4D makes a paltry 102hp. surely we know this is not the best that Toyota can do... we just want those Japanese manufacturers to treat Pinoy customers to the same delight they make available to their European customers. same what Kia/Hyundai does, same engine could be had in Philippine (if u had the money) . hehe.

[Bogeyman]

we just want those Japanese manufacturers to treat Pinoy customers to the same delight they make available to their European customers.

It's because those Japanese 'delights' have to be fed the right kind of fuel, and that's something that European customers easily have access to, unlike here in the Philippines. Refining the fuel is the obvious solution, but that would entail increasing prices. Alam mo naman ang Pinoy, konting taas lang ng gasolina, "boycott" na ang sinisigaw. :D

Besides, many might balk at such prices for diesel machines when they can go for gas ones for less.

I'm willing to bet that, given ten years of using *just* local diesel, my own non-CRDi, indirect injection oil burner can easily outlast all these new-fangled common rail engines.

[yapoy86]

maybe they should buy their systems from Bosch, kung bosch CRDi ang nakasalpak sa Fortuner or innova panalo talaga yan...isa kasi ang bosch sa mga major developer ng common rail technology kaya mas advanced yung mga engines nila... AFAIK most european car brands are using Bosch CRDi system... kaya nung malaman ko na bosch ang gamit ng kia hyundai sulit talaga.

[JJB]

what's exactly the difference between euro 5 and our local diesel?
alam ko lang na maduming diesel ang sa atin (which is cheaper to produce)

[JJB]

what's exactly the difference between euro 5 and our local diesel?
alam ko lang na maduming diesel ang sa atin (which is cheaper to produce)

[Bogeyman]

what's exactly the difference between euro 5 and our local diesel?
alam ko lang na maduming diesel ang sa atin (which is cheaper to produce)

The diesel sold in the Philippines currently adheres to the Euro 2 standard, while Europe is already implementing the more stringent Euro 4, which has lower levels of CO, NOx and particulate matter. Ganun pa kadumi ang diesel natin compared sa kanila.

The Euro 5 standard is set to be implemented in Europe by September, 2009.

[rion]

don't forget Audi makes powerful diesels too...

hay... ingit ako. I'd like to plant a new 2.2 BMW diesel in our old 2.5 Pajero. but if I have even more money, I'll just scrap it and buy a BMW diesel.

[coiter]

hay... ingit ako. I'd like to plant a new 2.2 BMW diesel in our old 2.5 Pajero.

hahaha i have the same thoughts for my terrano. i actually asked sa iba kung merong available na crdi engine na swak. best bet na lang daw e yung pang navarra. kaso malamang wala pang surplus nun. haaay wishful thinking na lang muna. hehehehe

[niky]

The particulates is the bad part, as this is what directly destroys the piezo-injectors... but besides that, water contamination clogs fuel filters and eventually destroys/starves the fuel pumps of CRDi engines (the filters of CRDis are veeeeeery fine, to keep particulates from entering the fuel rail... so it's easy to clog them)... I've seen/heard of fuel pump failures (outside of the typical D4D issues) once or twice.

Also, our fuel was, at one time, lacking in lubricity in the change to Euro2... Toyota blamed this for the first set of D4D failures... and it may have affected others, too. Lito German from BMW says that in their testing, BMW's more powerful CRDis can't survive on local fuel, and their engines have to be detuned for local use.

Our diesel plain sucks. Even for non-CRDis... if you fill up at the wrong place, you get all kinds of problems... at some stations, the water separator of the Crosswind gets filled right away (gaddemmit...) and our oldest diesel units have busted pumps and worn injectors due to fuel contaminants. At least pre-combustion diesels have cheap injectors... ...but the switch to WVO for us can't come soon enough. I don't mind the shorter oil change intervals if it assures us of longer engine life... ;)

[rion]

medyo ot lang sir niky, does an ordinary old school diesel fuel filter has a capabilty to filter some water?

[parakitoJDM]

another thing about exhaust emission performance that's exciting about this new engine is that. Mazda has engineered to be EURO-5 Compliant without the need for Bulky/cumbersome/expensive UREA tank/injection system!