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    #1
    HI tsikoteers,

    Just want to ask if what mga dapat isama sa scenario (or gastos for short) kung magpapalit ka ng Mags + tires, what I mean is, suspension? or etc...

    scenario is, naLubak ako sa isang munting hollowblock at nadiform lng ng Konting konti konti ung Mags at ang nangyare is nag iba ung takbo ng Car, at nag Otso ung ikot nung gulong na nalubakan, by the way, nabutasan ako ng tires at napaVulcanize na, Im not so sure kung sa tires nga ung problem or sa Mags, pero naiCp ko na lng na magpalit ng Mags... so could you help me out here please?

    Car specs:
    Ride: honda city Exi 97
    existing mags and tires: 15" rota subzero + 195x55x15
    Suspension: Stock

    Balak ko kc mag palit ng mags same lng 15" at same sukat ng tires, also, san ba magandang bumile ng Tires? tumawag na ako sa concept1 wala clang 15" eh, Manila, QC, Makati or pasig area lng po ako...

    By the way, main question here is anu anu ang mga dapat isama ko sa budget pag magpapalit ako ng mags and tires, for example, suspension + alignment, etc... be specific po sana, wala ako alam sa Gulong at suspensions eh, hehehe

    Salamat!!!

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    Yesterday, I changed my rims and tires from the stock 13" to 15" na kagaya sayo ang tyre size na 195/55. Buti sayo marami kang mapagpilian pero dito sa probinsya, bihira lang ang may stock na rims, usually they say na oorderin pa sa manila kung wala silang display and will take 1-2 weeks ang delivery. I don't have this luxury of time so I had to make do with what's available.

    The labor was free kc dun narin mismo sa store na pinagbilhan ko ininstall. But in my case, i had to pay for additional items like the spacer, new lugnuts, then tip narin kc satisfied ako sa pagkakagawa.

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    Di ko na pinabalance (P150 per tire) kc kababalance lang 2 weeks ago. Pero ang advice nila, if ever magvavibrate ang steering wheel when cruising at high speeds, saka ko na ipabalance. So far i tested it today, stable pa naman ang steering at 100kph.

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    Anu tawag sa Balance na sinasabi mo? wheel balancing?, tama ba? parang Mura ata?

    * All readers,

    Please Advise on the thread...

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    Add ko na rin, kelangan ko na rin bang magpalit ng suspension kung same size ng mags at from dating 195 50 15 is papalitan ko ng 195 55 15? nagbbudget na rin kc ako eh,

    and also, san magandang bumile ng Mags? Tires? maganda ang quality ng gawa and also nag aaus na rin ng suspension all in one shop ika-nga... Thanks, please advise naman?

    btw, ride is Honda city Exi 97, 4 holes!

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    Kung sobrang laki yung gulong, baka tatama sa wheel wells. Kakasya naman, pero tatama sa katawan ng kotse mo pag malubak.

    Saan lugar, dude? Usually, okay yung servitek, pero depende kung aling branch.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    *Niky
    kahit from 195 50 15's to 195 55 15's? tatama ba sa wheel well ko un? kung same 15's na mags lng ako?

    Ok lng sa akin kahit saan d2 sa Metro manila, bsta trusted and Pulido gumawa...

    *share ko lng, mahirap din pala tumingin sa Dubshop, Silverwind at ConzeptOne ng Mags, maglalaway ka lng, kaso wala naman clang stock pang 15's ko, halos 17's pataas lng ung mga gus2 kong mags eh,

    San pa ba ung ma-irefer nyo sa Mags and Tires na shop?

    OT: Cnu nakakaalam nung Mags and auto accessories shop sa Karport, Global City? nakalimutan ko ung Contact nila eh....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackkcam View Post
    Add ko na rin, kelangan ko na rin bang magpalit ng suspension kung same size ng mags at from dating 195 50 15 is papalitan ko ng 195 55 15? nagbbudget na rin kc ako eh,

    and also, san magandang bumile ng Mags? Tires? maganda ang quality ng gawa and also nag aaus na rin ng suspension all in one shop ika-nga... Thanks, please advise naman?

    btw, ride is Honda city Exi 97, 4 holes!
    i think the 195/50/15 will still fit into your car. pero depende sa offset ng mags yan ha? but i like the 195/55/15 more para di masyadong malaki yung gap sa wheel wells pag hindi ka lowered tsaka for a more comfortable ride.

    wala ka namang kailangang palitan sa suspension parts kung stock height lang if you are from 195/55/15 to195/50/15. but expect a rough ride dahil manipis na yung goma mo.

    and yes, kung bago yung mags, you have to have it balanced. the cost of wheel balancing is like that....around Php 150.00/wheel.

    san maganda bumili? brand new ba? punta ka sa rota factory sa bicutan. madaming pagpipilian dun. o kaya shops along evangelista (bangkal) makati.

    generally, you don't need to change suspension parts if you are changing rims lang and tires, but you need to just have the wheel balanced lang.

    but since nalubak ka, i assume baka may damage yung suspension part mo (bushings, etc.) and baka kailangan mong i-camber o wheel alignment dahil sa lakas ng pagkakalubak mo.
    Last edited by 1D4LV; February 12th, 2008 at 01:01 PM.

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    1D4LV,

    Correct ko lng, it is from 195 50 15 TO 195 55 15..

    at Yep, medyo malakas din ang Lubak ko, Share ko na lng na:
    Once in Home Depot (near metrowalk) I was driving (galing akong Tiendesitas) sakto naman na Green light and free ung road, Hinataw ko sa 120 and while driving I saw a Rock (as big as a 2 yr old's Fist) Iniwasan ko pero Sumabit pa rin, *BAAAG* ang unang kong narinig then *ssssssssssssssss* ang sumunod, at napancn kong butas na ung tires ko...thats the whole story,

    Add: pinaPlantsa ko ung tires pero after nung nag start na mag wiggle ung gulong (a bit mga di naman malaki pero pansin na mag wiggle from dirvers window view) also pati ung Steering wheel medyo lumalaban ng Slight lng (bka from the wiggle nanggagaling un)

    yep, balak ko na rin pagawa ung suspensions eh, kasi matgal na ring mag squeeking sounds pag medyo malalim ung Humps (kahit slow drive) or kahit malubak lng ung dinadaanan:
    OT: san ba magandang suspension specialist, have heard about Zee or Cruven, (drop by ako sa kanila on the weekends) kinokontra lng kc ng Tito ko na dun na lng daw sa malapit na mekaniko na kakilala namin, kaso parang more on Engines lng tlga cla (Pansin ko, kc un lng ang madalas at always nilang ginagawa)

    May Contact ka dun sa Rota sa Bicutan? malapit lng ako dun:

    Project ko kc, Change mags and Tires (same size, tires lng ang magiiba) + Suspension Fix + Drop ng kahit 1" lng, mura lng naman cguro un...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackkcam View Post
    1D4LV,

    Correct ko lng, it is from 195 50 15 TO 195 55 15..

    at Yep, medyo malakas din ang Lubak ko, Share ko na lng na:
    Once in Home Depot (near metrowalk) I was driving (galing akong Tiendesitas) sakto naman na Green light and free ung road, Hinataw ko sa 120 and while driving I saw a Rock (as big as a 2 yr old's Fist) Iniwasan ko pero Sumabit pa rin, *BAAAG* ang unang kong narinig then *ssssssssssssssss* ang sumunod, at napancn kong butas na ung tires ko...thats the whole story,

    Add: pinaPlantsa ko ung tires pero after nung nag start na mag wiggle ung gulong (a bit mga di naman malaki pero pansin na mag wiggle from dirvers window view) also pati ung Steering wheel medyo lumalaban ng Slight lng (bka from the wiggle nanggagaling un)

    yep, balak ko na rin pagawa ung suspensions eh, kasi matgal na ring mag squeeking sounds pag medyo malalim ung Humps (kahit slow drive) or kahit malubak lng ung dinadaanan:
    OT: san ba magandang suspension specialist, have heard about Zee or Cruven, (drop by ako sa kanila on the weekends) kinokontra lng kc ng Tito ko na dun na lng daw sa malapit na mekaniko na kakilala namin, kaso parang more on Engines lng tlga cla (Pansin ko, kc un lng ang madalas at always nilang ginagawa)

    May Contact ka dun sa Rota sa Bicutan? malapit lng ako dun:

    Project ko kc, Change mags and Tires (same size, tires lng ang magiiba) + Suspension Fix + Drop ng kahit 1" lng, mura lng naman cguro un...
    from 195/50/15 to 195/55/15, i don't see any problem with it, maski mag lower ka pa ng 1" to 1.5". but again, its the offset that makes the difference.

    cruven na lang bro... meron dyan sa may sucat bago dumating ng olivarez college.

    before may contact ako sa rota, pero nag resign na dun eh. drop by ka na lang, ieentertain ka naman nila dun eh.

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    Maganda ba tlga Cruven? Pulido ba? wala naman drawbacks na sa hule ang pagsisise? kc papagawa ko ng tago un, at di ko papaalam sa tito ko eh, maarte kasi un, binabalik ung panahon nila, parang gus2 ko ngang sabihin na panahon nyo un, iba na ngaun!! haha

    Ok sakto dude ung sinabe mo, magpapadrop nga ako ng 1" kc tataas naman ung kotse di bah? tpos ibababa ko ung body ng 1" or 1.5", try ko mag drop by tlga sa kanila, San ba ung orig, hindi ung branch ha, ung dito sa may cubao or sa sucat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackkcam View Post
    Maganda ba tlga Cruven? Pulido ba? wala naman drawbacks na sa hule ang pagsisise? kc papagawa ko ng tago un, at di ko papaalam sa tito ko eh, maarte kasi un, binabalik ung panahon nila, parang gus2 ko ngang sabihin na panahon nyo un, iba na ngaun!! haha

    Ok sakto dude ung sinabe mo, magpapadrop nga ako ng 1" kc tataas naman ung kotse di bah? tpos ibababa ko ung body ng 1" or 1.5", try ko mag drop by tlga sa kanila, San ba ung orig, hindi ung branch ha, ung dito sa may cubao or sa sucat?
    ok sa cruven. dyan din ako nagpapagawa sa pangilalim ko eh. wala namang drawbacks, and may warranty din.

    ang original is sa cubao, pero yung mga tao dyan sa sucat is galing ng cubao. madali pang kausap yung manager nila dun.

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    Does anyone know where I can buy good 205 55R16 tires and 16x7 Wheels na 5x112 ang PCD? Medyo mahirap hanapin dito sa Metro Manila. Meron ba sa Makati, Paranaque or Muntinlupa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinpunzalan View Post
    Does anyone know where I can buy good 205 55R16 tires and 16x7 Wheels na 5x112 ang PCD? Medyo mahirap hanapin dito sa Metro Manila. Meron ba sa Makati, Paranaque or Muntinlupa?
    Try mo sa minerva alabang. usually, they have hard to find stocks.

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    You have to look at WHEEL OFFSET when you're shopping for new wheels. This is important for proper fitment as car suspensions can only accept a minimum wheel offset without having the car's fenders eating the tires and wheels.

    On Jazzes and Cities for instance, the lowest offset you should consider is +45. Anything lower than that and your fender linings will scrape against your tire rubber. Do some research for your particular car model before buying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Type 100 View Post
    You have to look at WHEEL OFFSET when you're shopping for new wheels. This is important for proper fitment as car suspensions can only accept a minimum wheel offset without having the car's fenders eating the tires and wheels.

    On Jazzes and Cities for instance, the lowest offset you should consider is +45. Anything lower than that and your fender linings will scrape against your tire rubber. Do some research for your particular car model before buying.
    So i Need to get 15 x --- X4h +45++?? so if i get +40's it would contact the Fender against the Tire rubber? oh my, didnt know that idea, thanks for this additional Knowledge...

    OT: Anyone knows where I can find Mag restoration shops? they fix your otso, deformed, oblong mags?

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    I'll update this thread, try to check first with Zee or Cruven, kung anu ang problem ng Front wheel (driver's side) ko, nag wiggle na naman kc ngaun, dala ko sa office eh,

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    baka yung wiggle e effect na nung pagpa-plantsa mo ng tires. di siguro maayos ang gawa.

    about the tire change, baka magkaproblema ka bro pag binaba mo pa ng 1". yun kasing city ko dati, kinasahan ko ng 195 55 R15, saktong-sakto lang sya tpus wala ako binago sa suspension. pag bumaba pa yun, malamang may sumayad na.

    Quote Originally Posted by mackkcam View Post
    1D4LV,

    Correct ko lng, it is from 195 50 15 TO 195 55 15..


    Add: pinaPlantsa ko ung tires pero after nung nag start na mag wiggle ung gulong (a bit mga di naman malaki pero pansin na mag wiggle from dirvers window view) also pati ung Steering wheel medyo lumalaban ng Slight lng (bka from the wiggle nanggagaling un)

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    *Ralphs,

    Mukha nga eh, balak ko na rin sanang palitan ung Mags kc, hehe eh ang financer ko is ung Mom ko, haha, eksaktong 40k ang needed for Mags (concept one 15's), 55's Adrenalin, Zee Suspension repair + etc (alignment, balancing,++) Minus nga pala ung trade in ng Mags(15's rota sub zero) at 6 pcs Tires(4 pireli + 2 Yoko A drives) ko bale 9k ung trade in, a total of tumataginting na 32k ksma na ung gas, tip at etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinpunzalan View Post
    Does anyone know where I can buy good 205 55R16 tires and 16x7 Wheels na 5x112 ang PCD? Medyo mahirap hanapin dito sa Metro Manila. Meron ba sa Makati, Paranaque or Muntinlupa?


    i have 205/55/16 Pirelli PZero less than 200kms, from Volvo C30. I upgraded to 18" kasi.

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