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    Hello mga boss! Just upgraded to a new set of rims from 16" to 17". Binalance naman nila yung rims. Tapos pansin ko parang yung alignment hindi masyado naka calibrate. Talaga bang pag nag upgrade ka ng bigger rims, kylangan i pa service mo pa alignment? If yes, kylangang ipalign ulit pag bumalik sa stock rims? Thanks mga boss!!! Salamat sa sasagot


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    yes bro...



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    yes, have an alignment. Your alignment is probably calibrated to the old tires you have which may have been worn unevenly.

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    Thank you mga boss, if i have to change it back to my stock rims, should I take my car again to calibrate my alignment? And magkano kaya pa service ng alignment?


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    ^ In any case, kahit naman hindi ka nagpalit ng rims eh dapat magpa-align ka regularly. Potholes pa lang sa Metro Manila eh, bad enough to affect your alignment

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    well, the alignment tools are attached to the edges of the rims and not to the tires.
    so if the new rims are of a different diameter from the older rims...

    not to mention what the others already said, that alignment should be checked regularly.

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    Okay okay. Got it mga boss! Thank you!


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    Quote Originally Posted by dovahkiin View Post
    Hello mga boss! Just upgraded to a new set of rims from 16" to 17". Binalance naman nila yung rims. Tapos pansin ko parang yung alignment hindi masyado naka calibrate. Talaga bang pag nag upgrade ka ng bigger rims, kylangan i pa service mo pa alignment? If yes, kylangang ipalign ulit pag bumalik sa stock rims? Thanks mga boss!!! Salamat sa sasagot


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    Wheel balance, yes. Wheel alignment, no need na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janemar View Post
    Wheel balance, yes. Wheel alignment, no need na.

    Well sir, may i ask why? Kasi ikaw lng nagsabi na hindi na kelangan ang wheel alignment. Na balance na mags ko e.


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    Pahabol question, how much kaya price range ng pa alignment?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Janemar View Post
    Wheel balance, yes. Wheel alignment, no need na.
    +1 po ako dito. . . check-up lang at most. . just to be sure. . . . pero kung d naman gumagawi. . balanse lang talaga kailangan

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoy123 View Post
    +1 po ako dito. . . check-up lang at most. . just to be sure. . . . pero kung d naman gumagawi. . balanse lang talaga kailangan
    Sir have you tried upgrading your stock rims to a smaller/bigger rims without getting an alignment? Stable ba manobela mo pag binitawan mo?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Janemar View Post
    Wheel balance, yes. Wheel alignment, no need na.
    Quote Originally Posted by mcoy123 View Post
    +1 po ako dito. . . check-up lang at most. . just to be sure. . . . pero kung d naman gumagawi. . balanse lang talaga kailangan
    May I understand why only wheel balancing is required and wheel alignment is not necessary?

    Per experience, wheel alignment is done regularly (depending on the use of the car and road conditions) even if tires are not changed. A vehicle suspension can also be misaligned even if it is tracking straight depending on degree of the the toe in/toe out settings or camber. In the same case, a car can be aligned even if it tracking left or right due to uneven tire wear or weight on the vehicle.

    Having said such, it is always a safer choice to have the suspension alignment checked when changing tires, bago na eh so check it na rin. The only times i don't do such is if my car was recently aligned (and i know my car), or the car is brand new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janemar View Post
    Wheel balance, yes. Wheel alignment, no need na.
    +2 with this. For bnew cars, I always change mags to a bigger size and theres no need to do alignment since theyre new and suspension parts arent misaligned yet. Confirmed with an alignment shop sa t mapua when i got new mags there and the alignment shop said theres no need to align since car ia new. After 15k kms na next alignment daw.
    Remember this is for bnew cars. Need to align for older cars when changing mags of course.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    May I understand why only wheel balancing is required and wheel alignment is not necessary?

    Per experience, wheel alignment is done regularly (depending on the use of the car and road conditions) even if tires are not changed. A vehicle suspension can also be misaligned even if it is tracking straight depending on degree of the the toe in/toe out settings or camber. In the same case, a car can be aligned even if it tracking left or right due to uneven tire wear or weight on the vehicle.

    Having said such, it is always a safer choice to have the suspension alignment checked when changing tires, bago na eh so check it na rin. The only times i don't do such is if my car was recently aligned (and i know my car), or the car is brand new.
    Would agree with you sir as to regular wheel alignment check-ups. . . But just changing tire and rim sizes won't change any angles. . . . As per geometry lessons. . . A square will have 90degree angles. . . No matter how big that square is.

    Since bago yun tires. . . Pa-check na lang rin yun alignment. .. pero that does not mean na me babaguhin. . .. unles there are issues in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dovahkiin View Post
    Sir have you tried upgrading your stock rims to a smaller/bigger rims without getting an alignment? Stable ba manobela mo pag binitawan mo?


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    Yes sir, a 1979 macho machine, from the stock 14s to 15s. A 95 civic from 14 to 15. An 80 dx liftback from 13stock tires to 195/50/13s.

    The corona and the civic, check-up lang. Yun dx ginalaw, but that was because. Me problem na sya before

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoy123 View Post
    Would agree with you sir as to regular wheel alignment check-ups. . . But just changing tire and rim sizes won't change any angles. . . . As per geometry lessons. . . A square will have 90degree angles. . . No matter how big that square is.

    Since bago yun tires. . . Pa-check na lang rin yun alignment. .. pero that does not mean na me babaguhin. . .. unles there are issues in the first place.
    I guess hindi lang tayo nagkakaintindihan.

    For a new car and for a car in which alignment was recently done (or super sure si owner): No need. I agree also that a change in tire size doesn't warrant a change in alignment specifications.

    We pertain to the need to align on the basis that the car is fairly used thus the tires are worn, and there had been no recent alignment done to the vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    I guess hindi lang tayo nagkakaintindihan.

    For a new car and for a car in which alignment was recently done (or super sure si owner): No need. I agree also that a change in tire size doesn't warrant a change in alignment specifications.

    We pertain to the need to align on the basis that the car is fairly used thus the tires are worn, and there had been no recent alignment done to the vehicle.
    Great. . . Mukha naka-align na tayo ng opinion sa isa't-isa =)

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    With my limited experience owning a brand new vehicle, the first thing i did was to go to my suking service center doing alignment, camber correction, wheel balance,etc.

    More often than not, my trusted mechanic have to adjust the things i mentioned above, and it makes me feel safer and secure.

    What more if you change your rim size and tires. Since I have high mileage vehicles, it's my practice to have alignments, camber corrections every two months, and everytime there was an adjustments to be made.


    On the side note, it depends on the alignment machine being used , but i do trust my suking service center.


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    unless the vehicle is brand new or alignment had been checked lately then sop na yan pag palit ng tires or rims alignment and camber check. sayang ang tires na mauupod na di pantay kung may issues sa alignment at camber.

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