how do lexus cars really compare to european cars?

[uls]

hahahaha

why not everyone put him on their ignore list too

[x_outpost]

Dude, I've been trying to tell these self-proclaimed rich kids and repeatedly asked to stick to the topic.
But they can't get enough telling the world how rich they are.

First time I came across a bunch of kids who can't get enough about telling others how rich they are - "Oh I drive a Hyundai but the truth is, I'm very rich"... sounds like a line coming from a kid growing up in a very dysfunctional family.


Alright, let's get back to our regular programming. The OP asked "how do Lexus cars really compare to European cars".

I wish people just stick to discussing cars and its merits.

For people who has either owned or driven Lexus or the Euro cars, thanks for sharing your experience.

We don't need to agree to each other's opinions but I don't see the point in all these my dad is richer than yours BS.

[piscesboy]

Click on user's name > View Profile > Add to ignore list.

You're welcome

Wag naman si Retz. Mangangalahati ang haba ng lahat ng threads dito :hysterical:

meron pala nito, sayang di ko rin magagalit wala kasi ako kaaway sa tsikot e.
yun lang kung marami naiirita sa post ko.

[niky]

We don't need to agree to each other's opinions but I don't see the point in all these my dad is richer than yours BS.

Talk to the person who started raising a ruckus about non-owners not having a right to talk, then putting people on the ignore list. Uls, ghosthunter and I don't always agree (heck, GH and I almost NEVER agree), but we don't attack each other like that.

[x_outpost]

Ito nalang isang example.

Bakit yung mga Yakuza na halos lahat ay Hapon .... Bakit preferred nila Euro? ...... Bakit ayaw nila sa Lexus?

Reminds me of this. About 10 years or so ago. I bought a point-and-shoot Pentax from Costco. Went back to work that same day and played with it.
After 30 minutes, I decided to return it. My Korean boss asked me why? I said, it is made in the Philippines (back then, I wasn't a fan of any electronics made in the Philippines). He replied back "You're not to patriotic aren't you"...So I asked him "Would you buy a car made from Korea?"... and he replied back "Hell no"....

On the other hand, Korean cars have improved a lot compared to their Japanese counterpart. I flew to California recently and I was picked up by my driver in a Equus and I was pretty impressed and I would think they can compete with Infiniti and Lexus in their own game.

[speed_kills]

lexus launched in 1990 in the u.s. and had made daimler benz lose to lexus. it became daimler chrysler and still can not compete to lexus. the former mercedes crowd are not returning to mercedes and are keeping and buying newer lexus.

I guess any car brand has its ups and downs and MB had a lot of reliability issues back then. But they've stepped up their game in the last few years and has come out with many desirable models.

Even Lexus has been forced to make their cars more dynamic as they recently lost the US sales crown to the Euro brands. I don't see "rebadged" cars like the ES negatively as it serves a specific group of buyers anyway. Plus it helps Toyota get the needed profits to invest more in unique Lexus models like the IS and GS.

I think competition is good as it's us consumers who will benefit by having more choices. At least locally, Lexus' aggressive pricing means BMW/MB/Audi will be pressured to come up with more affordable or high value variants otherwise Lexus will continue gaining in our market.

[x_outpost]

lexus launched in 1990 in the u.s. and had made daimler benz lose to lexus. it became daimler chrysler and still can not compete to lexus. the former mercedes crowd are not returning to mercedes and are keeping and buying newer lexus.

Sounds like a nice topic. I'm curious when you said Daimler lost to Lexus and it can't compete with Mercedes.
Can you be more specific? Is it about performance or sales figures?

[uls]

Talk to the person who started raising a ruckus about non-owners not having a right to talk, then putting people on the ignore list. Uls, ghosthunter and I don't always agree (heck, GH and I almost NEVER agree), but we don't attack each other like that.

he comes in here telling everyone only people who actually owned the cars can talk about the cars

who died and made him car god?

he's just some working class pinoy in the states who bought some cars so that makes him a car expert and everybody else's opinion is crap?

[jick.cejoco]

Sounds like a nice topic. I'm curious when you said Daimler lost to Lexus and it can't compete with Mercedes.
Can you be more specific? Is it about performance or sales figures?

at least the dealership i had worked for just like the other dealerships, had mercedes, toyota, general motors and finally lexus. the mercedes crowd switched and bought lexus. even the cadillac crowd switched in favor of lexus. in terms of reliability, serviceability (i had worked on toyota, lexus and general motors), availability of parts, and customer satisfaction were in favor of lexus. basing on jd powers survey, the lexus came superior.

[x_outpost]

I would guess the age group of people who switched are in their 50's or so since that is Lexus' prime market (or maybe my perception is wrong so feel free to correct me). I'm not surprised if they are popular with JDPowers' survey since Toyota's strong point is reliability. I'm not sure how bad they got hurt with recent troubles with recalls but I guess they are doing better now with their voluntary recalls the past few months.

I hang out with my fellow age groups (30's) who are mostly into performance-oriented cars. Most people I know who currently drive Lexus are not really car guys.

at least the dealership i had worked for just like the other dealerships, had mercedes, toyota, general motors and finally lexus. the mercedes crowd switched and bought lexus. even the cadillac crowd switched in favor of lexus. in terms of reliability, serviceability (i had worked on toyota, lexus and general motors), availability of parts, and customer satisfaction were in favor of lexus. basing on jd powers survey, the lexus came superior.

[jick.cejoco]

i am a car service guy and i love to feed on customer's ego. they are good for the business. the more the customer brags the more i like it as long as they can pay for my labor. even when i am too inexpensive at $65 an hour, some rich people are still hesitant to pull their wallets out. gosh i love rich, generous and humble customers. it would be nice if there are lots of them

[Sweetlucious]

Guys remember the tsikot saying? It applies in this thread.

NO PICS = BS

Dami pa naman nagpost ng "owned and driven". Post post na ng pics pag may time.

[dreamur]

So young and so gay. :P

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[CLAVEL3699]

MGA HAYOP KAYO SUMAKIT ANG ULO KO SA INYO.






Tagalogin nyo naman para maintindihan ko!

[shadow]

MGA HAYOP KAYO SUMAKIT ANG ULO KO SA INYO.






Tagalogin nyo naman para maintindihan ko!

You no spokening dollar?


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#retzing

[jhnkvn]

Okay, it's officially troll time. I give up. Irrelevant discussions my ass.. hell, I wasn't the one who steered the discussion to "I can list more than a dozen pages of cars my family owns". I stated my piece, gave my opinions on how Lexus compares to their European counterparts, and I don't really need these BS of luxury.

And since I loved what Shadow said.. I'll go make a meme for it.

[Chikselog]

Hayaan nyo na yan. Iba talaga nagagawa ng "internet tough guys".

[Bin Diesel]

Okay, it's officially troll time. I give up. Irrelevant discussions my ass.. hell, I wasn't the one who steered the discussion to "I can list more than a dozen pages of cars my family owns". I stated my piece, gave my opinions on how Lexus compares to their European counterparts, and I don't really need these BS of luxury.

And since I loved what Shadow said.. I'll go make a meme for it.

haha. para may makabasa. :GRIN:

[CLAVEL3699]

I wasn't the one who steered the discussion to "I can list more than a dozen pages of cars my family owns".

grabe? dozen pages... pahingi naman isa

[uls]

Okay, it's officially troll time. I give up. Irrelevant discussions my ass.. hell, I wasn't the one who steered the discussion to "I can list more than a dozen pages of cars my family owns". I stated my piece, gave my opinions on how Lexus compares to their European counterparts, and I don't really need these BS of luxury.

he's telling everyone the only people with credibility to comment about cars are those who have OWNED said cars

pag may nag post tanong niya agad HAVE YOU OWNED ONE?

sobra obsessed sa ownership

ina-assume niya agad yung nag post never OWNED the car

ano gusto niya palabasin?

na puro mahirap mga tao dito?

tangna (napamura tuloy ako) kumita lang ng konting pera sa tate at naka bili ng sasakyan feeling superior na sa mga tao dito sa Pinas

kaya kelangan sabihin ni niky and jhnkvn "hoy di naman kami mahirap"

tapos binaligtad niya saying why do people here have to say they're rich

WTF

sino feeling superior dito sa thread na ito?

hoy outpost di lahat ng tao dito mahirap tulad mo noong nandito ka pa sa Pinas

ano tingin mo sa sarili mo?

layo ng narating mo?

hoy umahon ka lang sa hirap

di malayo yan

nakabili ka lang ng mga sasakyan

di malayo yan

naghuhulugan ka ng bahay

di malayo yan

huwag ka masyado bilib sa sarili

hindi ka exceptional

typical ka lang