2016 Kia Sportage Gen 4

[sparc179]

How about the Mazda CX5 diesel? This was on my shortlist before, but what kept me from it was it being too expensive. I had a budget then & I wanted to pay in cash so I went for the Kia.


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Same reason for me sir, I can't justify paying P2.2M when I only clock about 6 to 7 thousand kms./ year on the odometer.

This is why I'm still considering a Gas CUV, the FC of the diesel is a plus factor for me though, hence the shortlisted Sporty.

Also, I measured the front-end of the new CX-5 and there's a good chance it won't fit inside our garage when all of us are in for the night.

Good suggestion though, I was considering it.

[sparc179]

Me Likey!

[minicarph]

Bakit di ka na lang mag cx3 mas maliiit pa, mas kasya sa garahe nyo

[bloowolf]

Me Likey!

I haven’t seen one displayed yet. Presently owning the 2018 SL, I am curious to see the improvements/differences in the metal. Have you owned a diesel vehicle before?



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[bloowolf]

Same reason for me sir, I can't justify paying P2.2M when I only clock about 6 to 7 thousand kms./ year on the odometer.

This is why I'm still considering a Gas CUV, the FC of the diesel is a plus factor for me though, hence the shortlisted Sporty.

Also, I measured the front-end of the new CX-5 and there's a good chance it won't fit inside our garage when all of us are in for the night.

Good suggestion though, I was considering it.

FYI, oil burners are treated differently from gasoline ones. When started, a 20 second wait is needed to let the oil reach the turbo charger before driving off & a 1 minute wait is required before shutting the engine off. Diesels are also healthier if driven 45 minutes fast every 2 weeks. Watch this guy if you want to learn more: Diesel Vs Petrol Engine: Which one is right for you? | Auto Expert John Cadogan | Australia - YouTube . Kia also has strict pms requirements of a 5k or 6 month pms interval. I am being the devil’s advocate here, to help you decide since you drive only 540 kms/month.


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[Verbl Kint]

How about the Mazda CX5 diesel? This was on my shortlist before, but what kept me from it was it being too expensive. I had a budget then & I wanted to pay in cash so I went for the Kia.


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An all-new model is coming out next year. Best wait for that if the buyer is really keen on getting a Mazduh.

[sparc179]

FYI, oil burners are treated differently from gasoline ones. When started, a 20 second wait is needed to let the oil reach the turbo charger before driving off & a 1 minute wait is required before shutting the engine off. Diesels are also healthier if driven 45 minutes fast every 2 weeks. Watch this guy if you want to learn more: Diesel Vs Petrol Engine: Which one is right for you? | Auto Expert John Cadogan | Australia - YouTube . Kia also has strict pms requirements of a 5k or 6 month pms interval. I am being the devil’s advocate here, to help you decide since you drive only 540 kms/month.


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Our dad had an old Pajero before (Acquired from Subic and converted to LHD) so we're familiar with how Turbo-Diesels are used and maintained. My service vehicle was also diesel when I worked for an agri-supply company.

Good point though, Diesel engines like to be used and sometimes abused to some degree. My consideration of the Sporty stems from economics mostly, rising prices of fuel and all. Although, I admit the price of gasoline and diesel fuels are nearly the same now in some places.

I wasn't aware that KIA-Phils had such a stringent warranty policy, 5K or every 6 months, seriously?

[Walter]

The new Suzuki Jimny will certainly fit in your garage ...

[minicarph]

Our dad had an old Pajero before (Acquired from Subic and converted to LHD) so we're familiar

I wasn't aware that KIA-Phils had such a stringent warranty policy, 5K or every 6 months, seriously?

Maselan kasi ang engines ng Kia coz they are following the Euro5 standard, so those GDIs and CRDi are not fit for Philipine setting. Lalo pa at mga gasoline station satin may hokus pokus.

Wala nman paki ang KiA Korea sa 3rd world setup coz ang gusto nila makarami ng benta sa Europe at America. Same goes with Mazda

Thats why ive been convincing all of you just to get the Thai PPVS coz gawa satin region , we have the same 3rd world setup as Thailand or India or even Indonesia. We can help each other.

napansin ko na yan sa Ford. When Ford was forcing their cars noon woth their Expeds, Escapes, Explorer wala nagkakasira dito pero eto mga Ranger and Everest, palibhass Thai made eh di lumakas benta nila

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Ps alam ko kung bskit meron pa din mga Filipino kumukha ng Mazda, Kia, or even Subaru. Its really emotional decision making. They want to be diffrentiated, unique, naiiba whatever. Kaya lang you will really pay for it dearly sa maintenance and reliability in the long run and for what just to be different.

For me, Kia, Mazda,Subaru are no different from Peugeot and Volkswagen and Chevy.

These are brands that I will never ever buy no matter how sleek the designs are or no matter how cheap the SRp will be .

With Kia pede pa siguro since it is also Hyundai naman its mother.

[bloowolf]

I wasn't aware that KIA-Phils had such a stringent warranty policy, 5K or every 6 months, seriously?[/QUOTE]

Actually, Hyundai is even worse at 3 mos or 5k, whichever comes first.


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[sparc179]

The new Suzuki Jimny will certainly fit in your garage ...

I agree, it would fit quite easily in fact. Unfortunately, after driving a Rav4 for the last decade or so I found it cramped and the storage limited, having a young child ( 2 strollers, extra padding, pillows,etc.) exposed its weakness for me. Even the new Vitara was small inside by comparison.

Honestly, if the new Ravie they came out with had the same 2.0L engine as the Singapore model, I would prolly be getting my second Ravie in a few months time. Alas, a 2.5L gas burner just doesn't make sense for me on Philippine roads.

Actually, Hyundai is even worse at 3 mos or 5k, whichever comes first.

I would never choose a Hyundai, I've heard and seen too many horror stories about them, never enough parts at the Casa either. A personal friend experienced it first hand with his diesel Accent.

Kia-Phils has emailed me already and now just waiting for them to schedule my test drive. We'll see how it goes from there.

I've also emailed and requested test drives for the Forester, X-Trail and the Rav4 just for good measure.

[bloowolf]

I agree, it would fit quite easily in fact. Unfortunately, after driving a Rav4 for the last decade or so I found it cramped and the storage limited, having a young child ( 2 strollers, extra padding, pillows,etc.) exposed its weakness for me. Even the new Vitara was small inside by comparison.

Honestly, if the new Ravie they came out with had the same 2.0L engine as the Singapore model, I would prolly be getting my second Ravie in a few months time. Alas, a 2.5L gas burner just doesn't make sense for me on Philippine roads.




I would never choose a Hyundai, I've heard and seen too many horror stories about them, never enough parts at the Casa either. A personal friend experienced it first hand with his diesel Accent.

Kia-Phils has emailed me already and now just waiting for them to schedule my test drive. We'll see how it goes from there.

I've also emailed and requested test drives for the Forester, X-Trail and the Rav4 just for good measure.

Kia was no different when they were being handled by CACC. But things are looking up with AC Ind. at the helm. I just hope PMS requirements & it’s details will change to like that of Honda. If you don’t mind me asking, what variant of the Sportage are you interested in?


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[sparc179]

Kia was no different when they were being handled by CACC. But things are looking up with AC Ind. at the helm. I just hope PMS requirements & it’s details will change to like that of Honda. If you don’t mind me asking, what variant of the Sportage are you interested in?


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If the test drive goes well and the wifey agrees(she still needs some convincing) might go for the EX TOTL. On paper, at least, it has all the features I'm looking for and then some. I just really hope the same features will be available locally. Ayala acquiring KIA-P is another reason I'm keenly interested. I used to work for an Ayala company and was fortunate enough to benefit from that. Still an ARC member also.

Then I can finally go back to Pagudpud and finish that buko salad I had there, this time with my family in tow. Planning for a week-long road trip visiting all the sights in the north I missed last time I was there.

[bloowolf]

If the test drive goes well and the wifey agrees(she still needs some convincing) might go for the EX TOTL. On paper, at least, it has all the features I'm looking for and then some. I just really hope the same features will be available locally. Ayala acquiring KIA-P is another reason I'm keenly interested. I used to work for an Ayala company and was fortunate enough to benefit from that. Still an ARC member also.

Then I can finally go back to Pagudpud and finish that buko salad I had there, this time with my family. Planning for a week-long road trip visiting all the sights in the north I missed last time I was there.

Oh, I’m sure AC Ind. won’t be skimping on the important details especially now that they are resurrecting the brands image. I’m sure you won’t regret. Usually, there are hesitancies when choosing Kia for the first time, considering it’s history in the country but you’d be impressed with the build quality of the latest models. I have a sister who came from Pajero’s, Camry, Fortuner, CX 9 & bought a Sta. Fe (previous version) 3 years ago despite my nephews protests on Korean cars. She didn’t regret it a bit. She uses it for mostly urban drives & doesn’t give her problems.
Nice choices, though. I hope you can post feedbacks on the cars test drives.


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[sparc179]

Oh, I’m sure AC Ind. won’t be skimping on the important details especially now that they are resurrecting the brands image. I’m sure you won’t regret. Usually, there are hesitancies when choosing Kia for the first time, considering it’s history in the country but you’d be impressed with the build quality of the latest models. I have a sister who came from Pajero’s, Camry, Fortuner, CX 9 & bought a Sta. Fe (previous version) 3 years ago despite my nephews protests on Korean cars. She didn’t regret it a bit. She uses it for mostly urban drives & doesn’t give her problems.
Nice choices, though. I hope you can post feedbacks on the cars test drives.
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Mag dilang-anghel po sana kayo sir bloowolf, I'm prone to "Analysis-Paralysis" and in the last 3 months I've been going back and forth over all the brands and models I've shortlisted, almost had it settled when TMP announced the launching of the new Rav4. I'm still trying to get over my disappointment over that so I'm kind of expecting a lot from the Sporty that's why I'm going for the TOTL. Might as well go all-in is my mindset, I really hope and pray I won't be disappointed again.

[minicarph]

Mag dilang-anghel po sana kayo sir bloowolf, I'm prone to "Analysis-Paralysis" and in the last 3 months .

kitams mo nangyari, dahil sa over analysing, biglang nagi top priority mo ang Kia just becuase its now an Ayala. Youre considering it coz of Ayala but not really because of what Kia cars are

I think its called anchoring effect. Masaya ka siguro namamasyal sa BGC High street and other Ayala malls so na trick na brain mo into deciding that Kia is as pleasant as Ayala

I think eto naging problema nun mga bigla napabile ng Volks in the past 2 years eh, not thinking that Volks already entered the market prior to Ayala and it failed

mag Expander ka na lang kung love mo talaga gasoline, and the the 500k difference , treat your fsmily with planned staycations sa baguio, subic, tagaytay, quezon, bicol etc. all throughout 2019

500k laki nyan baka lagi pa kayo may free breakfast buffer.

Its not the car, its the memories with the car

[sparc179]

kitams mo nangyari, dahil sa over analysing, biglang nagi top priority mo ang Kia just becuase its now an Ayala. Youre considering it coz of Ayala but not really because of what Kia cars are

I think its called anchoring effect. Masaya ka siguro namamasyal sa BGC High street and other Ayala malls so na trick na brain mo into deciding that Kia is as pleasant as Ayala

I think eto naging problema nun mga bigla napabile ng Volks in the past 2 years eh, not thinking that Volks already entered the market prior to Ayala and it failed

mag Expander ka na lang kung love mo talaga gasoline, and the the 500k difference , treat your fsmily with planned staycations sa baguio, subic, tagaytay, quezon, bicol etc. all throughout 2019

500k laki nyan baka lagi pa kayo may free breakfast buffer.

Its not the car, its the memories with the car

Dude, get your terms and facts straight please.

I didn't prioritize one brand over another, how can you make a brand or car maker a priority anyway? That's like saying they're more important to you than eating and drinking. I made a shortlist based on available options and the features/ specs of those available options within the price range I had. The only "priority" I have is my family, our comfort, safety and having a ride that's relatively worry-free.

It just so happens that the Sportage is one of the vehicles that has the features/ specs I'm looking for that also fits in with my budget. It's that simple. If a 2019 BMW X3 Hybrid had the same specs and price that I was looking for, I would be at BMW right now, LoL.

Sure I have a bias towards Ayala. I made millions working for them. Need I say more about that again?

You make better memories with the car when you enjoy what you're driving and it doesn't give you any problems.

This will be my one and only reply on this. I guess it's true what they say, once a troll, always a troll. MeMa.LoL.

[minicarph]

actually Kaya suggest Xoander coz Mitsubishi itself several gas Cars in the market but failed to sell Outlander ASX Fusion Lancer

Sabi Siguro ng Mitsu: “wow, is this really it? Just price a gasoline car with 7 seater, we reverse decades of trial and error of finding the right game changer”

. Kitams hinde lang sila naka 13000 units in 2018, tinalo pa nila Avanza. For the first time na dethrone ang isang top seller in T badge.

Ngaun May Bagong ecosystem na naman which will comprise the proud owners of Xpander, supplier of accessories for Xpander as well as gray market parallel imports parts for those na namamahalan sa CasA

Hinde ba okey, nakatiped ka na sa isang has higher ground clearance car, dami mo pa kadamsy in the long term in terms of support and camaraderie. Fun run dito soon consult share.

So kaya kita di tinitigilan, I’m giving an option sa isang possible outcome na win win as compared to odds na halos Wala na nya Bumibili ng gas CUV ngaun , tapos Kia pa napile mo. Ang hirap pre pag meron ka unique car pero Wala ka katuwang sa pagpapagawa ang maintenance

[bloowolf]

Respect the poster. All he asked for were opinions on the Sportage. His money, he’ll spend it in anyway he sees fit.


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[Egan101]

Don’t mind OB. Just think of his posts as hilarious.


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