2012 Kia Rio

[cyberian]

Kahit break-in period masyadong malakas yun kay cyberian. Naka eco on pa siya niyan

Kasi yun sa akin, sa city driving with heavy traffic ang naging konsumo 6.7km/l with eco off pero malakas parin for a 1.4.

Pinag tataka ko lang kung bakit sa accent nakakakuha ng 9km/l sa city driving, eh parehas lang naman ang makina. Kaya sa tingin ko sa program ng ecu ang culprit. Malamang iba ang gamit ng kia.


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Really quite possible the cure to my misery is an ECU re-programing. Ang bagal bagal umakyat kung naka A/T, underpowered talaga at nahihirapan ako mag overtake. I am forced to engaged the manual mode and even this I need to build enough momentum to engage the next gear. The engine is noisy, emitting a lot of growl. Pati misis ko worried about the engine noise kahit nasa 2000 rpm lang and accelerating.

In the Optra, Lancer GLi, Spark, Corollas, Sentra, Jazz and Honda City, when I accelerate from the 1st to the 2nd gear in a hurry I can actually feel my back pressing on the seat. I don't felt it on the Rio5. Just like driving the Starex and Pajero 2500 turbos, really feels like a diesel than a gasoline engine to me. Sad, if my fc is this bad at least it should give me a zoom-zoom performance. I hope Kia get it fix on my 1st PMS.

[timo07]

Really quite possible the cure to my misery is an ECU re-programing. Ang bagal bagal umakyat kung naka A/T, underpowered talaga at nahihirapan ako mag overtake. I am forced to engaged the manual mode and even this I need to build enough momentum to engage the next gear. The engine is noisy, emitting a lot of growl. Pati misis ko worried about the engine noise kahit nasa 2000 rpm lang and accelerating.

In the Optra, Lancer GLi, Spark, Corollas, Sentra, Jazz and Honda City, when I accelerate from the 1st to the 2nd gear in a hurry I can actually feel my back pressing on the seat. I don't felt it on the Rio5. Just like driving the Starex and Pajero 2500 turbos, really feels like a diesel than a gasoline engine to me. Sad, if my fc is this bad at least it should give me a zoom-zoom performance. I hope Kia get it fix on my 1st PMS.

Tama si weisshorn, baka katulad nung problema ni bratski on his hyundai accent. Nasundan ko rin yung thread na iyon. Having the same engine platform, this is a strong possibility. If I may suggest, do not wait for the first PMS. Irefer mo na sa dealer for action. Think you have enough data to say that there is something wrong with the car. You have never mentioned the sluggishness before, so that might be it, low power due to incompatible engine tuning to fuel available here.

[timrev]

kia 1.2 Rio
gusto ko lang po sana matanong yun mga owner ng 1.2 RIO sa-
fuel consumption?
issue sa engine?

isa sa pinagpipilian namin--
haba na kasi ng thread taz 1.4 rio lagi ko nababasa

[renzo_d10]

If all else fails, benta then get a Mazda 2 or a Suzuki Swift. 2 fun little cars

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[cyberian]

Thanks sir timo07 & sir weisshorn, I'll press Kia on this point. The screwed timing probably the reason I pressed more on the gas pedal for more power since the engine lagged a lot. I am waiting for Kia SA to call me when to have the unit checked, he's still securing a car service to swap with my car while it's in their shop. Sabi nila they need a total of 3 days daw to check and test the car.

*renzo_d10: I just saw the Mazda3 HB and boy, it's big and a beauty. Maliit lang horsepower, yong 1.6L pareho lang sa Rio5. Suzuki Swift 1.4A/T fc sabi ng Sales Agent nasa 14km/L actual city (cagayan de oro) and that's the minimum according to customers' feed backs. I doubted it but the SA is willing to have their unit tested for fc purposes, like what mazda offered. I tested the Chevy Orlando before and was impressed with the fc at 9.2km/L. I actually had a P.O. for it before I cancelled it in favor of Rio5 as the replacement for the Starex dahil mas practical sa City and easy to park. I love the Rio5 styling naman including the interior design, features, material and fit and finish except the fc. There's still chance for an improvement... hopefully after check-up.

[RHbacker]

Hi guys. I'm a newbie here in tsikot but been following your threads since June. Bought a Rio5 HB last April. Got an average fc of 7.43km/l for the first 1000km, manual computation, combined city and hway driving. It started to improve since then. Right now my odo is at 2958 and my ave fc is at 9.21km/l. Use to bring my HB to office 3x a week - bulacan-makati-bulacan. First PMS is 4 mos or 7500km - un ang sabi ng dealer from Ortigas. Is this true with other HB owners?

[PsychoMp3]

I don't consider the Rio HB underpowered anymore compared to our 2005 Honda City GD8 1.3 Liter, the 7-speed matic was it's selling point then and the worst if I may say amongst our cars at the time, worst fuel efficiency and worst when loaded with people or stuff as it can't even overtake a jeepney going to Tagaytay. the 1.3 City is only 84Hp / 88 PS. it achieved minimum 5 KM/L maximum when my cousin borrowed it reached was 12 Km/L all city driving.

[jpabuel2003]

Hi guys. I'm a newbie here in tsikot but been following your threads since June. Bought a Rio5 HB last April. Got an average fc of 7.43km/l for the first 1000km, manual computation, combined city and hway driving. It started to improve since then. Right now my odo is at 2958 and my ave fc is at 9.21km/l. Use to bring my HB to office 3x a week - bulacan-makati-bulacan. First PMS is 4 mos or 7500km - un ang sabi ng dealer from Ortigas. Is this true with other HB owners?

KIA RIO 2012 Sedan po sakin, same din ng observation ko 0-1000+ kms around 7km/L, after 2000+ 10km/L pure city driving -normal stop and go with a little heavy traffic and 2 subdivision + kasama lagi Wife ko na kasing laki ko.

[cyberian]

KIA RIO 2012 Sedan po sakin, same din ng observation ko 0-1000+ kms around 7km/L, after 2000+ 10km/L pure city driving -normal stop and go with a little heavy traffic and 2 subdivision + kasama lagi Wife ko na kasing laki ko.

Sir jpabuel2003, I hope you can give me more details of your unit if you don't mind. Where you bought it and serviced, your Sales Agent and their contact number so I can have a basis to demand from my Kia Casa to have my unit fix with reference to your Casa para sila na ang mag usap kung paano na improved yong sa yo.

[c_cube]

KIA RIO 2012 Sedan po sakin, same din ng observation ko 0-1000+ kms around 7km/L, after 2000+ 10km/L pure city driving -normal stop and go with a little heavy traffic and 2 subdivision + kasama lagi Wife ko na kasing laki ko.

this is good news kung ganito nga nangyayari sa 1.4at engine ng rio. pero nasa 500+ palang odo ko hahaha!

sana nga gumanda FC, 7km/l din compute ko sa ngayon pag city driving eh

[spymaker]

my ex mt somewhat improved its fc from 5-6km/l to 6-7km/l last week. what is surprising was that i changed my driving style from low rev to high rev. i change gear almost 2k rpm now instead of 1.5k rpm before.

regarding fc computation, we should all establish fixed variables to get accurate readings. it is unfair to blame the engine for heavy traffic, terrain, driver's habit, kilometers covered, etc, etc. what is constant here is time and rpm. what any serious car owner should do is to first determine at what rpm he/she wants to test the fc of the car. second, determine the speed generated at that rpm in 6th gear and compute the distance covered at that speed for an hour. third, have a full tank. fourth, run the car's engine at the desired rpm while parked for 15min or 30min or an hour if desired.. fifth, have it full tanked then compute manually.

if you use 6th gear, that will be your maximum efficiency rating.
if you use 1st gear, that will be your worst effiency rating. if you get worse result than this, something is wrong with your engine.

[cyberian]

Hi guys. I'm a newbie here in tsikot but been following your threads since June. Bought a Rio5 HB last April. Got an average fc of 7.43km/l for the first 1000km, manual computation, combined city and hway driving. It started to improve since then. Right now my odo is at 2958 and my ave fc is at 9.21km/l. Use to bring my HB to office 3x a week - bulacan-makati-bulacan. First PMS is 4 mos or 7500km - un ang sabi ng dealer from Ortigas. Is this true with other HB owners?

Sir RHbacker, same thing po sa yo. I hope you can give me more details of your unit if you don't mind. Where you bought it and serviced, your Sales Agent and their contact number so I can have a basis to demand from my Kia Casa to have my unit fix with reference from your Casa para sila na ang mag usap kung paana e-improved yong sa akin like yours.

[RHbacker]

Sir RHbacker, same thing po sa yo. I hope you can give me more details of your unit if you don't mind. Where you bought it and serviced, your Sales Agent and their contact number so I can have a basis to demand from my Kia Casa to have my unit fix with reference from your Casa para sila na ang mag usap kung paana e-improved yong sa akin like yours.

i bought my unit from KIA Ortigas thru my SA sa KIA Marilao kc alang HB graphite available sa kanila that time. Right now wla pko sa 1st PMS. i just followed what the manual said - like during break in stage the ideal variable speed is between 2K-4K rpm, so naihahataw ko din cya ng 100 - 130kph on hway. first observation ko is malakas tlg fc nya pag idle ska during the first 1000km, medyo late reaction nya when you step on the gas pedal, ung parang kapos sa arangkada, pero right now nagimprove n un. saka i regularly check my tire pressure on a weekly basis - 32psi ang TP ko. eco on function all the time. 23C ang ambient temp ko lagi. overall, im happy with Rio HB. pangit lang talaga ung busina nya! d bagay sa porma! hehe!
sana magimprove ung syo sir cyberian.

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Hi guys. I'm a newbie here in tsikot but been following your threads since June. Bought a Rio5 HB last April. Got an average fc of 7.43km/l for the first 1000km, manual computation, combined city and hway driving. It started to improve since then. Right now my odo is at 2958 and my ave fc is at 9.21km/l. Use to bring my HB to office 3x a week - bulacan-makati-bulacan. First PMS is 4 mos or 7500km - un ang sabi ng dealer from Ortigas. Is this true with other HB owners?

Hmmm... ganun kalaki ang improvement? Parang masyadong malayo ha. Malalaman ko yan pag ganyan na mileage ng unit ko.

7.5k ang susundin ko sa pms, hindi ako sumusunod sa month. Sabi din naman ng SA ko 7.5k talaga ang una.

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Did my 3rd full tank

FC - 8km/l - around 70 city and 30 highway with heavy traffic and aggressive driving shifting around 3k - 4k (hataw mode). Eco OFF. ODO 695 kms

My next to do is do an eco drive shifting around 2k to 3k with eco ON. To compare fc.

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[cyberian]

Did my 3rd full tank

FC - 8km/l - around 70 city and 30 highway with heavy traffic and aggressive driving shifting around 3k - 4k (hataw mode). Eco OFF. ODO 695 kms

My next to do is do an eco drive shifting around 2k to 3k with eco ON. To compare fc.

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It looks like your fc is getting better. I look forward to read your progress report on your fc mate!

[renzo_d10]

Goodluck, cyberian!

Baka kaya 3 days kasi gagamitin nila kotse for monitoring purposes. I-jot down mo nalang current odo mo and level of fuel. Baka mamaya pagbalik sayo + 600kms na sa odo mo iyan...

[cyberian]

Goodluck, cyberian!

Baka kaya 3 days kasi gagamitin nila kotse for monitoring purposes. I-jot down mo nalang current odo mo and level of fuel. Baka mamaya pagbalik sayo + 600kms na sa odo mo iyan...

Copy that, thanks! Fc kasi issue baka yong 3 days of joy ride is justified! nyak!

[weisshorn]

3 days is nothing basta umayos ang makina regarding fuel consumption & low power issue. I still believe that this is about ecu programming. Sana maayos na yang car mo brother.

[renzo_d10]

3 days is nothing basta umayos ang makina regarding fuel consumption & low power issue. I still believe that this is about ecu programming. Sana maayos na yang car mo brother.

yup it's ok for me, but then again, the additional kms on the odometer should be justifiable & logical. +500kms or up isn't logical.. heck, i'd go crazy if there will be an additional 200kms on my odo!

to measure the fc, ~100kms is already enough. meron naman instant fuel meter yan