2012 Kia Rio

[eido]

Haha sorry eco ibig ko sabihan dun hindi ego. Nag auto spell hehe

[chua_allan]

*cyberian

ano average speed mo sa isang trip. Ito kasi naisip ko kung pano natin idefine ang city driving. Like kanina nasa binondo area ako.. guess what ave speed ko is 6km/h lang sa trip ko today.. mas mabilis pa ata ang maglakad haha..

[cyberian]

*cyberian

ano average speed mo sa isang trip. Ito kasi naisip ko kung pano natin idefine ang city driving. Like kanina nasa binondo area ako.. guess what ave speed ko is 6km/h lang sa trip ko today.. mas mabilis pa ata ang maglakad haha..

Good point. Some here posted fc based on avg speed to get a fair comparison over your equivalent fc. The problem is, the trip computer display your avg speed and time only for the day and every morning it resets back to zero and therefore getting all the avg readings on a full tank would be a difficult and challenging task.

One of the most accurate procedure is only practical for fc testing:

Full Tank > Reset Trip Computer > drive around the city > Full Tank again. Record all Trip Computer data after 1st fill and prior to second fill. Fuel discrepancy on first and 2nd fill (based on the pump reading) = Fuel consumed. This way you'll get the fc of the distance traveled both on manual computation and trip computer, with avg speed and elapsed time. I'll try doing this soon both on day (moderate-heavy traffic) and night (light or no traffic) fc evaluation drive.

[cyberian]

*cyberian

ano average speed mo sa isang trip...

Approx.: Light traffic>14km/h
Moderate>10km/h
Heavy>6km/h
Highway (short run)>30km/h

Estimate pa 'to kasi I don't monitor much on the avg speed. Display always on the INSTant Fuel Economy while driving and make quick cycle to view Trip Odo. I'll keep this in mind from now on.

[renzo_d10]

My Vios 1.3E consumes 12km/L pure city driving, drops around 10km/L on rush hour. About 16km/L highway.

Our FD consumes 8-9km/L city driving, and that's a 1.8L. For the Lancer EX which has 2.0L engine, consumes around 7-8km/L.

4km/L for a Rio, or even 5km/L is abnormal. Camry territory na yan. 7km/L might be acceptable under certain conditions but 4km/L is just absurd.

Just saying. 😒

[cyberian]

My Vios 1.3E consumes 12km/L pure city driving, drops around 10km/L on rush hour. About 16km/L highway.

Our FD consumes 8-9km/L city driving, and that's a 1.8L. For the Lancer EX which has 2.0L engine, consumes around 7-8km/L.

4km/L for a Rio, or even 5km/L is abnormal. Camry territory na yan. 7km/L might be acceptable under certain conditions but 4km/L is just absurd.

Just saying. 

Precisely.

This is the first gasoline car I ever owned with a crappy fc for it's size. My local 1999 Starex 2.5 Turbo-intercooler A/T fc was 5.5km/L city and used to be the fuel miser of all the vehicles but at least it consumes less on idle and has cheaper fuel. The manual 1995 local Pajero Turbo-intercooler fc is 7.5km/L city and also consumes less on idle. My Rio5 fc is high on the road and also on idle.

I thought the Optra 1.6 LS my wife and I bought new back in 2004 is the worst fc ever having avg around 7-7.5km/L city. This Rio5 broke the record, and it's a smaller car. Ha!

[eido]

Sir kelan ba change oil mo? Sana gumanda fc mo after change oil. Ganda nga ng features ng rio.

[cyberian]

Sir kelan ba change oil mo? Sana gumanda fc mo after change oil. Ganda nga ng features ng rio.

I'm on 541kms pa and eager to have the unit serviced for the 1st PMS (1000 km.) as the Kia SA assured me they will look into my fc problem. I do hope it will improve to or near their claimed fc of 8-9km/L city. But if it won't improve, they might as well tell me straight to my face that the fc I'm having is the normal and correct fc sa Rio5 and ok na ako doon, I can live with it naman kahit pagtawanan by family, friends and even strangers asking the fc. That way, I won't be chasing ghost anymore.

[eido]

sir alam ko may fb page yung mga rio owners. try nyo sumali dun para may matanungan kayo ng fc. dun ata sila active hindi dito sa tsikot

[Mark Ilagan]

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[Mark Ilagan]

just noticed that about around after my 2012 rio a/t hit 2km, there was a marked change in the way it responded to driving situations:
eg: city driving before, the instant on board fc would move from 4 km/l during acceleration and go down to only about 7 to 9 km/l until stop... but now I noticed this going down to even around 35km/l (free wheeling) and normalizing to about 14km/l during constant speed (if this holds true, it would approximate t my previous 1.3 vios manual's fc)...

average onboard fc yesterday was a pleasant 12km/l Lucena to Makati back and forth... of mixed Hi way and stop and go Provincial roads dotted with slow moving trucks and tricycles ... rio loaded with 5 persons and a harvest of fresh buko in the trunk : )...

[pop3corn]

just noticed that about around after my 2012 rio a/t hit 2km, there was a marked change in the way it responded to driving situations:
eg: city driving before, the instant on board fc would move from 4 km/l during acceleration and go down to only about 7 to 9 km/l until stop... but now I noticed this going down to even around 35km/l (free wheeling) and normalizing to about 14km/l during constant speed (if this holds true, it would approximate t my previous 1.3 vios manual's fc)...

average onboard fc yesterday was a pleasant 12km/l Lucena to Makati back and forth... of mixed Hi way and stop and go Provincial roads dotted with slow moving trucks and tricycles ... rio loaded with 5 persons and a harvest of fresh buko in the trunk : )...

masisira ulo nyo kaka-monitor nyan pati odomoter eh tinitignan nyo.

simple lang to calculate your personalized consumption. 2-3 full tanks. for every full tank, reset trip meter.
compute FC by dividing total liters filled in full tank by total kilometers consumed on empty. compare data on 2-3 refills. in algebra FC is km/liter = total KM (on yellow light) / total liters filled on full tank.

in my case my kilometer consumed per full tank is 550 - 560 liters, and my average full tank on yellow light is between 67 to 69 liters of diesel. so yun sta fe ko 8.xx km/liter. yan ang daily ko pero noon tumakbo ako ng manaoag, that's 250km per way so almost 500km, and I consumed only less than half full tank, so I know my SF can be thrifty at double, so 16km+/liter on pure highway drive. our Ford Explorer EB on a Baguio run averaged 11km/liter, pero dito sa Manila it only averages 4km/liter. imagine the big drop on city driving. ganyan talaga gasolina lalo na pag dami idle stops. and mini-cars aren't an excuse. kaya nga mas gusto ko diesel eh




yan ang pinaka-accurate and personalized pa sa daily route and driving habits nyo.


those onboard trip computers are useless.


yun out of town driving, that's particularly useful only to determine kung ano talaga ang claim ng CASA sa fC, pero talagang ibang ang Manila driving. kahit si Einstein pa mag-compute nyan, hindi sya makaka-come-up ng equation, maliban na lang kung may averaging sya kung ilan pedestrian at ilan jeep ang biglang hihinto sa harap nyo. eh pano pa yun nagbebenta ng sampaguita at tubig sa kalye. and what about the average swervings you make due to stupid driver.

[cyberian]

sir alam ko may fb page yung mga rio owners. try nyo sumali dun para may matanungan kayo ng fc. dun ata sila active hindi dito sa tsikot

Ano fb account sir?

[c_cube]

May I ask ano model Rio mo sir c_cube?

Your full tank of about 40L and distance to empty of 569kms, are both bigger than my Rio5. It seemed to me the sedan has bigger fuel tank.

HB unit ko..

drove it this weekend going to balayan batangas
All units are from trip com
- 6.7l/100km
- travelled 128 kms.
- avg sped was 43kms
Eco off
Mostly highway driving

When i got home here in manila, avg fc was 7.4l/100, with traffic at tagatay. Forgot to check other readings

Pansin ko pag city driving lakas talaga din ng konsumo, sa hway walang problema.

Mukhang ganito na talaga fc ng rio 1.4at

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[nimasreb]

guys hingi naman ng advise. officially, isa na ako sa mga kio owners na nagka engine knock. kinonfirm ito ng SA sa kia pasig. yung annoying noise na naririnig ko everytime na naka turn on ang ignition, parang diesel ang makina ko, tapos low power pa lalo na sa akyatan, eto na nga kinakatakutan ko. pero nung dinala ko last week, ang sabi ng isang SA sakin, mawawala daw ito pag 95 ang RON na gagamitin ko. base kasi sa experience nila, meron daw same engine knock problem, bagong rio, pinag fuel lang daw ng xcs tapos di na bumalik. last sunday kakafull tank ko lang ng xcs. nag experiment kasi ako ng mga unleaded fuels ng petron, shell at caltex tiningnan ko kung ano ang pinaka efficient. not knowing na eto pala magiging resulta. hay, kipit balikat na lang ako kahit na may kunting pagsisi dahil rio and vios ang pinagpilian ko talaga. mas malakas na nga kumonsumo ng gas, mag kakaengine knock pa. im taking the word of my SA na pag xcs ginamit ko mawawala yung ingay. im planning na dalawang full tank pag di pa rin nawala, babalik ko na sa kanila ito. any suggestions sa mga kia rio ex owners aside sa pagpalit sa xcs ano pa ba dapat ko ipacheck. sabi kasi nung SA, nung chineck ng computer nila wala daw sila makita. sabi ko hindi naman ganito ang ingay ng makina nung kinuha ko sa kanila. two months pa lang ang rio ko.

[pop3corn]

guys hingi naman ng advise. officially, isa na ako sa mga kio owners na nagka engine knock. kinonfirm ito ng SA sa kia pasig. yung annoying noise na naririnig ko everytime na naka turn on ang ignition, parang diesel ang makina ko, tapos low power pa lalo na sa akyatan, eto na nga kinakatakutan ko. pero nung dinala ko last week, ang sabi ng isang SA sakin, mawawala daw ito pag 95 ang RON na gagamitin ko. base kasi sa experience nila, meron daw same engine knock problem, bagong rio, pinag fuel lang daw ng xcs tapos di na bumalik. last sunday kakafull tank ko lang ng xcs. nag experiment kasi ako ng mga unleaded fuels ng petron, shell at caltex tiningnan ko kung ano ang pinaka efficient. not knowing na eto pala magiging resulta. hay, kipit balikat na lang ako kahit na may kunting pagsisi dahil rio and vios ang pinagpilian ko talaga. mas malakas na nga kumonsumo ng gas, mag kakaengine knock pa. im taking the word of my SA na pag xcs ginamit ko mawawala yung ingay. im planning na dalawang full tank pag di pa rin nawala, babalik ko na sa kanila ito. any suggestions sa mga kia rio ex owners aside sa pagpalit sa xcs ano pa ba dapat ko ipacheck. sabi kasi nung SA, nung chineck ng computer nila wala daw sila makita. sabi ko hindi naman ganito ang ingay ng makina nung kinuha ko sa kanila. two months pa lang ang rio ko.

u 1.4 Korean car owners are practically at the mercy of our local unscrupulous fuel dealers and suppliers. Tingin ko kahit mag- adjust ang CASA, local fuel mixers will make our gasoline dirtier Dahil sa kaka-cost cutting nila .. dapat talaga tanggalin na ang ethanol mix eh, ngaun pala sedans are averaging 8-9 km / liter n lng. That's SUV territory.

Long ago my cars were Honda civic esi and Honda Crv 1st gen. unleaded Lang noon so my civic 1.6 averages 16km / liter city while crv at 10km/liter. now na mainstream na ethanol, my CrV is just 7-8km/liter. sayang yun ESI ko na benta na, nahilig sa SuV eh.

pero not worth na pala bumalik sa sedan ngaun, car manufacturers are improving engines pero isasabak LNG sa dirty fuel dito satin. I've checked almost all sedan threads here, wala na pala nakaka-over sa 10km/liter all city ngaun, mz2, spark, cruze, civic, city, jazz now the Korean cars Tsk Tsk.

I've read reviews of the Kia Rio HB in international forums particularly in Europe. owners brag how efficient their Kia rio's are. So yun mga woes nyo talagang ang culprit eh dirty mix ng gasoline dito satin .. It's affecting all cars with the low FCs, yun nga LNG mas malas Hyundai/ Kia may engine knock pa

[cyberian]

guys hingi naman ng advise. officially, isa na ako sa mga kio owners na nagka engine knock. kinonfirm ito ng SA sa kia pasig. yung annoying noise na naririnig ko everytime na naka turn on ang ignition, parang diesel ang makina ko, tapos low power pa lalo na sa akyatan, eto na nga kinakatakutan ko. pero nung dinala ko last week, ang sabi ng isang SA sakin, mawawala daw ito pag 95 ang RON na gagamitin ko. base kasi sa experience nila, meron daw same engine knock problem, bagong rio, pinag fuel lang daw ng xcs tapos di na bumalik. last sunday kakafull tank ko lang ng xcs. nag experiment kasi ako ng mga unleaded fuels ng petron, shell at caltex tiningnan ko kung ano ang pinaka efficient. not knowing na eto pala magiging resulta. hay, kipit balikat na lang ako kahit na may kunting pagsisi dahil rio and vios ang pinagpilian ko talaga. mas malakas na nga kumonsumo ng gas, mag kakaengine knock pa. im taking the word of my SA na pag xcs ginamit ko mawawala yung ingay. im planning na dalawang full tank pag di pa rin nawala, babalik ko na sa kanila ito. any suggestions sa mga kia rio ex owners aside sa pagpalit sa xcs ano pa ba dapat ko ipacheck. sabi kasi nung SA, nung chineck ng computer nila wala daw sila makita. sabi ko hindi naman ganito ang ingay ng makina nung kinuha ko sa kanila. two months pa lang ang rio ko.

Just 45 minutes ago I just heard my first engine "knocking" sound. It happened first after slowing down on a corner then immediately applied gas (pedal halfway) but the transmission (in auto mode) is late to engaged a lower gear kaya na stress yong engine at umingay yong overhead camshafts. It sounded exactly like a diesel engine but the sound is finer and rapid not slow and loud like in a conventional diesel on idling. I just released the accelerator a bit to minimize the fuel supply and the engine smother out with no more sound on the valves & springs. I also noticed this again 3 times when accelerating quickly after a bend and overtaking. No similar sound so far on idling.

The fuel I used is Shell's V-Power Nitro+, my 3rd full tank and it's 60% consumed. I never experienced or noticed this on my two previous full tanks of PETRON XCS. I also noticed today that going uphill ay mas mabagal at hirap mag accelerate.

I was actually surprised hearing the noise because the car is an A/T and not manual, a problem which is apparently common to taxi cabs like the Nissan LEC series. Taxi drivers has a habit of engaging a gear too early when accelerating or late when decelerating resulting to a lot of overhead camshaft noises.

Made me think to stick to the XCS on my 4th full tank any day from now.

[yapoy86]

diba variable valve timing na yan?? normal lang yan... baka yung exhaust shielding yung nadinig nyo.. minsan tunog knocking yan pag nag vibrate..

[c_cube]

Just 45 minutes ago I just heard my first engine "knocking" sound. It happened first after slowing down on a corner then immediately applied gas (pedal halfway) but the transmission (in auto mode) is late to engaged a lower gear kaya na stress yong engine at umingay yong overhead camshafts. It sounded exactly like a diesel engine but the sound is finer and rapid not slow and loud like in a conventional diesel on idling. I just released the accelerator a bit to minimize the fuel supply and the engine smother out with no more sound on the valves & springs. I also noticed this again 3 times when accelerating quickly after a bend and overtaking. No similar sound so far on idling.

The fuel I used is Shell's V-Power Nitro+, my 3rd full tank and it's 60% consumed. I never experienced or noticed this on my two previous full tanks of PETRON XCS. I also noticed today that going uphill ay mas mabagal at hirap mag accelerate.

I was actually surprised hearing the noise because the car is an A/T and not manual, a problem which is apparently common to taxi cabs like the Nissan LEC series. Taxi drivers has a habit of engaging a gear too early when accelerating or late when decelerating resulting to a lot of overhead camshaft noises.

Made me think to stick to the XCS on my 4th full tank any day from now.

maybe because shell nitro+ is only 93 RON, XCS is 95.

This is the reason i stay away from using shell's premium gasoline kasi 93RON lang. kung gusto mo shell dapat yun nitro racing which is 97 RON pero masyado ng mahal. kaya lagi ko gamit caltex GOLD (95 RON) which is the advisable rating from our engine

[uwak18]

If you use Petron Blaze which is 100 RON. will it stop the knocking sound? Will it make the rio more fuel efficient in terms of KM/L (wag na natin isama yung price variable). Tama ba na ang Kia rio and hyundai accent ECU's are tuned to EURO4 ? So you need to use EURO4 compliant gas.