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    #1121
    ser Hanren, welcome bak sa Carens resurrection mo. haha. pag dating ng 2013 Carens trade-in na 'yan!

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    it means na meron parts available for carens... sa mga nag woworry dyan eh wag na kayo mag worry kasi available ang parts for our carens.. hehehe

    may ginalaw ba sa mga valves??

    long idle mo din yung engine para ma smoothen yung mga parts na pinalitan

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    Quote Originally Posted by parakitoJDM View Post
    ser Hanren, welcome bak sa Carens resurrection mo. haha. pag dating ng 2013 Carens trade-in na 'yan!
    Salamat sir. Pa interior detail ko muna kasi amoy amag yung loob. Parang matagal pa ata dating ng bagong Carens .. baka mid 2013 pa..hehehe

    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86

    it means na meron parts available for carens... sa mga nag woworry dyan eh wag na kayo mag worry kasi available ang parts for our carens.. hehehe

    may ginalaw ba sa mga valves??

    long idle mo din yung engine para ma smoothen yung mga parts na pinalitan
    Sir madami na parts ..nagulat nga ako dahil nung unang punta ko dun sa casa nung natow ang carens ko eh tumawag lang sila sa supplier at meron daw available parts. Nahirapan lang talaga sa crankshaft dahil hindi naman ito usually ini istock kasi bihira naman ang nagpapalit nito. Kung meron lang sana yung crankshaft eh baka mas maaga ko nakuha ang carens. I also noticed that almost all the OEM brand new parts bear the Hyundai and Kia logo. Yung clutch nga pagka order ko kinabukasan dumating na galing supplier.

    Yung mga valves nilinisan lang ng gasoline at tubig at pinaikot ikot lang..I was there when they assembled the engine. Pero mukhang ibabalik ko Carens next week dahil di umiilaw yung glow plug indicator (eh kapapalit kasi ng 4).

    Akala ko din noon bawal ang long and unnecessary idle pag break in period. Pero baliktad pala. Pa update ko muna ECU bago ko i i break in sa SCtex this weekend. Pero may mga gustong sumama (i.e. relatives). Okey lang ba na mabigat ang load or pwede ko ba isakay ang 6-7 medium sized adults during the break in period?

    Thanks

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    #1124
    just refrain from sudden acceleration or struggling the engine... accelerate slowly and do not stay long in any rpm range except idle...

    nung nag pa overhaul ako noon, maghapon na pinandar nung mechanic yung engine ko..

    after 1000kms change oil ka ulet tapos normal driving ka na

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    #1125
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanren View Post
    Pa update ko muna ECU bago ko i i break in sa SCtex this weekend.
    Thanks
    sir balitaan mo kami kung may bagong software update ha, kailangan ko rin at saan mo po papagawa

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    #1126
    Quote Originally Posted by seymorebutts View Post
    sir balitaan mo kami kung may bagong software update ha, kailangan ko rin at saan mo po papagawa
    Sir pumunta ako Kia Dagupan kanina. Nireset lang yung ecu kasi may mga error codes na lumalabas. Tinatanong ko sila tungkol dun sa software update/upgrade pero di ata nila alam kung ano yun. Sabi nila hindi naman daw kailangan ng upgrade kasi di naman daw pinalitan ang ecu. So ang ginawa lang nila eh nireset lang ang ecu using the GDS software. Paid 700 petot for this very simple procedure

    Btw, napansin ko ulit yung pag 2nd or 3rd gear eh parang naghe hesitate o kumakadyot. The AC is currently disconnected. So i think kailangan na talaga ng software upgrade. Nalinis kasi ulit ang egr. Pwede ata sa Kia pampanga. Dun ko na lang ipapa update. May mga jurassic technology pa rin kasi ang mga ibang kia casa.
    Last edited by Hanren; September 22nd, 2012 at 09:14 PM.

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    #1127
    Hi,

    Had just finished ECU update from Kia Pampanga. It just took 10 mins.

    These are what I noticed:

    1. The hesitation or “kadyot” was gone. But will further observe performance in the coming days
    2. No noticeable turbo lag (kahit anong rpm range ramdam mo na ang turbo, di tulad dati na sa 1,500 rpm and up lang)
    3. Improved fuel economy? (21.7 kms/L pure highway with slight city driving in San Fernando). Had a full tank at Shell NLex, I traveled to Pampanga and filled up at Rosario La Union (207 kms which used 9.5 liters of Shell V Power).

    I was surprised that I got that figure considering it was still in the break in period. The ecu update might have contributed a bit to the improvement but I drove with a light foot along SCtex and Nlex (min of 60 kph and max of 80 – 90 kph – as in gumapang talaga) so hindi pa talaga conclusive kung yung update ang nagpaganda ng fuel mileage. Another thing is, the AC was not used during the entire trip.




    May error din na ‘turbo charger overspeed logic’ (hindi ko alam kung anong error ito hindi ko na natanong) and hesitation. Pero gumanda naman ang overall performance mula nung na update although it is still wait and see dahil nasa break in pa lang.

    Saka bumigay na rin ang battery ni Carens after 4 and a half years while in Pampanga. Pinalitan ng Motolite Gold S3.
    Last edited by Hanren; September 24th, 2012 at 10:10 PM.

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    thank you sir for the update, btw sa kia dagupan you paid 700 para i-reset, how about sa pampanga, may charge din po?

    thanks!

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    #1129
    Quote Originally Posted by seymorebutts View Post
    thank you sir for the update, btw sa kia dagupan you paid 700 para i-reset, how about sa pampanga, may charge din po?

    thanks!
    Unfortunately sir, after I tried to plead na nagbayad na ako ng 700 sa Kia Dagupan, I was still asked to pay 1,120 pesos for the reset and the update. Ang dahilan daw eh kailangan ulit makita/maverify yung "current version" nung ECU. Sinabi ko rin na libre naman dati yon (i read it here somewhere 2009 pa yung post ni sir Itlog na Pula).

    Sir, magpaudate ka na rin. It's about time. Yung lumang firmware eh hindi pa ata optimized for managing EGR-related operations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanren View Post
    Unfortunately sir, after I tried to plead na nagbayad na ako ng 700 sa Kia Dagupan, I was still asked to pay 1,120 pesos for the reset and the update. Ang dahilan daw eh kailangan ulit makita/maverify yung "current version" nung ECU. Sinabi ko rin na libre naman dati yon (i read it here somewhere 2009 pa yung post ni sir Itlog na Pula).

    Sir, magpaudate ka na rin. It's about time. Yung lumang firmware eh hindi pa ata optimized for managing EGR-related operations.
    Conrats sir. Happy to know na enjoy mo ulit ang Carens & now getting much better FC & performance...

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    #1131
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanren View Post
    Unfortunately sir, after I tried to plead na nagbayad na ako ng 700 sa Kia Dagupan, I was still asked to pay 1,120 pesos for the reset and the update. Ang dahilan daw eh kailangan ulit makita/maverify yung "current version" nung ECU. Sinabi ko rin na libre naman dati yon (i read it here somewhere 2009 pa yung post ni sir Itlog na Pula).

    Sir, magpaudate ka na rin. It's about time. Yung lumang firmware eh hindi pa ata optimized for managing EGR-related operations.

    thanks sir for the info, pinagtataka ko lang kasi nagpa-upgrade na ako dati, 2010 pa ata, tapos just this summer nung bumigay na battery ko at napalitan ay bumalik na ulit yung hesitation, could it be na reset to factory default yung ecu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jap_nice View Post
    Ask lang po ng isang zero knowledge sa car... wala na po lamig ng aircon ng carens namin. would like to seek advise for some DIY inspection before ko pacheck sa shop. 4 yrs n 4 mos old na unit namin, for the past 2 months, nawawala minsan lamig tapos ipapahinga ko lang, bumabalik na. but this time, for the past 2 days, di na bumabalik as in fan na lang pero hina pa rin.

    if in case need na talaga icheck ng aircon specialist, any recommendation within sta rosa / binan area?

    thanks for taking time to respond to my query.
    i believe you may have a problem with your magnetic clutch. Had the same telltale when mine was just 1.5 years old pero was diagnosed correctly by KIA Pampanga.

    Ask the A/C specialist to check it. Kung matinik siya, alam niya paano i-check ito.

    I have a suki sa Carmona area pero never took my Kia there to him. Yung isang oto ko lang pinagagawa ko sa kanya. Maayos siyang kausap. I can't find his card pero I can describe to you his place. Give a call to 09225353970.

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    #1133
    Quote Originally Posted by seymorebutts View Post
    thanks sir for the info, pinagtataka ko lang kasi nagpa-upgrade na ako dati, 2010 pa ata, tapos just this summer nung bumigay na battery ko at napalitan ay bumalik na ulit yung hesitation, could it be na reset to factory default yung ecu?
    Possible nga sir. Kung ma alala mo, nireset na sa kia dagupan yung ecu ni carens. The next day, we travelled to pampanga and stayed overnight there. the next day bago ako makapunta sa kia, bumigay na battery kaya napilitan ako bumili sa motolite mismo dun. Nung andun na ako, napansin ko bumalik ulit yung mga error codes. ayun nireset saka ina update.

    Pero firmware yon na naistore sa ROM kaya dapat di siya na e erase o nawawala pag walang power ng basta basta. Or baka yun latest version nung upgrade ang nilagay sa carens ko?

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    just want to share my experience. i'm driving my kia carens ex/at then suddenly bigla na lang namatay ang engine. tried to re start but namamatay ulit. so i disconnected the battery then tried again after 5 minutes pero wala pa rin. no choice na ako so tawag na ng towing service. i specifically inform them that what i need is a flat bed tow service since a/t yung carens and to avoid further damage. i bought it to kia alabang at 9:00pm. pagbalik ko kinabukasan pinadiagnose na and the culprit is a dirty egr valve. grabe just because of a dirty egr puede ka na pala timirik. paglinis ng egr ikinabit then test drive at ok na nga. since egr is not part of the service maintenance siguro dapat gawin ito every 40K.

    the only symptom i have experience is minsan kumakadyot yung carens in second and third gear. so guys just make it sure your egr valve has been cleaned if more than 4 years old na ang carens. hirap talaga pag tumirik ang kotse...

    yung mixture kasi ng air and diesel ay marumi kaya mabilis maipon and carbon deposit sa egr kaya ang recomended ng casa is always replaced air filter pag nag change oil...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenon View Post
    just want to share my experience. i'm driving my kia carens ex/at then suddenly bigla na lang namatay ang engine. tried to re start but namamatay ulit. so i disconnected the battery then tried again after 5 minutes pero wala pa rin. no choice na ako so tawag na ng towing service. i specifically inform them that what i need is a flat bed tow service since a/t yung carens and to avoid further damage. i bought it to kia alabang at 9:00pm. pagbalik ko kinabukasan pinadiagnose na and the culprit is a dirty egr valve. grabe just because of a dirty egr puede ka na pala timirik. paglinis ng egr ikinabit then test drive at ok na nga. since egr is not part of the service maintenance siguro dapat gawin ito every 40K.

    the only symptom i have experience is minsan kumakadyot yung carens in second and third gear. so guys just make it sure your egr valve has been cleaned if more than 4 years old na ang carens. hirap talaga pag tumirik ang kotse...

    yung mixture kasi ng air and diesel ay marumi kaya mabilis maipon and carbon deposit sa egr kaya ang recomended ng casa is always replaced air filter pag nag change oil...
    Sir sana pina update mo na rin ecu pagkalinis ng egr..yung kumakadyot kasi sa tingin ko either dahil masyadong maraming exhaust gas ang pumapasok sa combustion chamber o di kaya maraming fuel ang ibinibigay ng ecu. Yung ecu din kasi nagcocontrol sa pag open close ng egr valves. Hindi ko lang naiintindihan yung role ng ecu update sa pagtangal ng kadyot.

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    #1136
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanren View Post
    Sir sana pina update mo na rin ecu pagkalinis ng egr..yung kumakadyot kasi sa tingin ko either dahil masyadong maraming exhaust gas ang pumapasok sa combustion chamber o di kaya maraming fuel ang ibinibigay ng ecu. Yung ecu din kasi nagcocontrol sa pag open close ng egr valves. Hindi ko lang naiintindihan yung role ng ecu update sa pagtangal ng kadyot.
    EGR cleaning is a simple job to do, no need for casa svc if you are at home with DIY. Kailangan lang marunong ka ng basic use of hand tools...

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    #1137
    Quote Originally Posted by zenon View Post
    i bought it to kia alabang at 9:00pm. pagbalik ko kinabukasan pinadiagnose na and the culprit is a dirty egr valve. grabe just because of a dirty egr puede ka na pala timirik. paglinis ng egr ikinabit then test drive at ok na nga. since egr is not part of the service maintenance siguro dapat gawin ito every 40K.

    the only symptom i have experience is minsan kumakadyot yung carens in second and third gear. so guys just make it sure your egr valve has been cleaned if more than 4 years old na ang carens. hirap talaga pag tumirik ang kotse...

    yung mixture kasi ng air and diesel ay marumi kaya mabilis maipon and carbon deposit sa egr kaya ang recomended ng casa is always replaced air filter pag nag change oil...
    sir, per advise by one of the members here, do it every 20k, ako isasabay ko sa fuel filter replacement

    re: ECU update ko na nawala after ko magpalit ng battery, well i tried removing the ECU fuse to reset, mga 10mins, pag drive ko i noticed nawala yung hesitation sa 2nd gear pero sa 3rd gear meron pa din, nabasa ko kasi somewhere na hit and miss yung pag reset sa ecu kasi nga since updated na bakit mawawala pagkapalit ng battery? i will try removing it again tonight then bukas ko kabit, monitor ko ulit, sana mag ok na

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    sorry

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    sorry ulit

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    Quote Originally Posted by seymorebutts View Post
    sir, per advise by one of the members here, do it every 20k, ako isasabay ko sa fuel filter replacement

    re: ECU update ko na nawala after ko magpalit ng battery, well i tried removing the ECU fuse to reset, mga 10mins, pag drive ko i noticed nawala yung hesitation sa 2nd gear pero sa 3rd gear meron pa din, nabasa ko kasi somewhere na hit and miss yung pag reset sa ecu kasi nga since updated na bakit mawawala pagkapalit ng battery? i will try removing it again tonight then bukas ko kabit, monitor ko ulit, sana mag ok na
    Sir ano na balita?

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