trooper :: hard starting every morning

**zitro** · July 14th, 2003 10:57 PM

hi, ano ba problema ka pag hard start sa umaga? i notice that when my tank is full one click lang.. but half tank takes thrice.. what's the solution??

**Bubbles** · July 14th, 2003 11:01 PM

I'm not sure if it's your glow plugs/ heater plugs or your injection pump. If lagi hard start pag half tank, check mo rin fuel lines and fuel pick up, yung sa loob ng tank.

**boybi** · July 14th, 2003 11:03 PM

baka meron leak ang fuel line mo. tomorrow morning, before starting your engine, try to pump the fuel pump first. start your engine. kapag hindi na nahirapan, baka nga meron leak somewhere. check first the O-ring on the fuel filter, usually over tightening will break this.

**Bubbles** · July 14th, 2003 11:09 PM

Oo tama. baka rin kailangan na replace nung fuel filter

**ondoy** · July 15th, 2003 12:36 AM

zitro

IMO, the solution(s) to your problem depends upon the engine model in the Trooper. Do you have the 3.0L, or 3.1L, or 3.2L turbo-diesel? For example, the 3.0L, 4JX1-TC engine has peculiar problem of hard-starting, the solutions of which are totally different from the other models. Please specify.

**jackaroo** · July 15th, 2003 06:45 AM

zitro,
Did you have any work/ service done on the engine before the problem started or has it always been this way?
How many kms does it have? Did the water separator warning light ever light up?

**zitro** · July 15th, 2003 09:29 AM

this is weird. I just change my 2 oil filters and new fuel filter. also air filter. my engine is 3.0 4jx1-TC. what I observe is pag full tank walang problema..

**RedHorse** · July 15th, 2003 10:32 AM

Balik mo uli sa casa, ipa-analyze mo sa TEC-2.

Bago mo ipasok, make sure na available ito, 500,000 daw kasi ang unit na ito, kaya kadalasan shared ito ng kanilang ibang branches.

**hanson** · July 15th, 2003 10:16 PM

hope i could help but considering your engine is the 4jx1 model, i concede. i wouldn't want to make too much assumptions on something that i shouldn't talk about: Common Rail Technology of BOSCH/ZEXEL.

if it were mechanical, it's easier. if it were EFI, CRT models of DENSO, that's our territory.

BEST, you bring it to INTECO. just be prepared for the costs.

regards,

hanson

**jackaroo** · July 16th, 2003 02:02 AM

What oil did you use on the trooper- 10w30? Did you see the actual oil used? Hope it wasn't serviced by Inteco!
Check your fuel filter- esp the drain plug underneath, has to be screwed tight. This fuel filter takes a long time to bleed properly (about 5-10 min). Any air leaks could cause your problem.

**zitro** · July 16th, 2003 04:05 PM

i used petron all terrain. by theway, do you have any info about shock absorber? im planning to change my stock shock.. my friend told me to buy rancho rs5000 front and rs9000x back.. also i want to lift 3"... hope you guys could give me where can i find shop selling this items.. thanks

**jackaroo** · July 16th, 2003 04:29 PM

Zitro,
I'm using rancho rs5000 in front - don't like them. They're actually oil filled inspite of the label saying some gas. They're also a bit shorter than stock so this limits play. They faded all the same after 3 hrs on the halsema hway from sagada. Stick with KYB gas- they're not that much harder than rancho.

**ARB** · July 16th, 2003 07:48 PM

"They're also a bit shorter than stock so this limits play"

does this mean that you installed a shock absorber not intended for the trooper.

**Doc Diesel** · July 16th, 2003 08:19 PM

zitro,
who changed the filters? I would presume that there is something wrong with the pressure of the fuel that is coming in to your fuel injection system.

common rail fuel injection are high pressured systems wherein a constant level of pressure should be maintained.

since it's an Isuzu, then you must have the Zexel fuel injection system. visit our shop so we can diagnose your problem. that goes with other brands like BOSCH, Doowon and Stanadyne where we specialize.

Doc Diesel

**zitro** · July 17th, 2003 12:22 AM

Originally posted by Doc Diesel
zitro,
who changed the filters? I would presume that there is something wrong with the pressure of the fuel that is coming in to your fuel injection system.

common rail fuel injection are high pressured systems wherein a constant level of pressure should be maintained.

since it's an Isuzu, then you must have the Zexel fuel injection system. visit our shop so we can diagnose your problem. that goes with other brands like BOSCH, Doowon and Stanadyne where we specialize.

Doc Diesel

hi doc,

i experience hard start b4 i changed the fuel filter. that's why i tune up my trooper to check what;s really the problem.. anyway, naka sched na by friday to clean the fuel lines and fuel tank. by the way, where's ur shop? whats the near landmark? i'm going to chek also my engine performance.. thanks could you give ur cell num?

**zitro** · July 17th, 2003 12:26 AM

Originally posted by jackaroo
Zitro,
I'm using rancho rs5000 in front - don't like them. They're actually oil filled inspite of the label saying some gas. They're also a bit shorter than stock so this limits play. They faded all the same after 3 hrs on the halsema hway from sagada. Stick with KYB gas- they're not that much harder than rancho.

i went to RIDE at banawe, they recommend bilstein shock.... any comment for this brand? i wonder you have negative feedback with rancho shock... anyway, what's the best shock absorber.. and any info where to get lift

**Doc Diesel** · July 17th, 2003 07:59 AM

zitro,
you can text or call me at 09173281214.

Doc Diesel

**Ungas** · July 17th, 2003 08:55 AM

Originally posted by zitro
i went to RIDE at banawe, they recommend bilstein shock.... any comment for this brand? i wonder you have negative feedback with rancho shock... anyway, what's the best shock absorber.. and any info where to get lift

Bilstein shocks are monotube type. We, woodfire & I think pajerokid are using it and so far this is the best that we have tried. But one thing though, you'll have to dig deeper into your pocket. If I remember it right, it costs P5,500 per tube.

I have used Rancho 5's for 3 years on our van and not quite contented with it. Too soft and too early to give up, to say it was only used on city limits because of 4x2 capabilities.

You could try giving Freeman a ring and ask for the best solution to lift your ride. 7277201 look for Kits. :D

**jackaroo** · July 17th, 2003 09:28 AM

ARB,
I measured the rancho 5 before installing it and found it short by a couple of inches. So called the dealer(monroe mktg), even sent the orig shock for comparison, they said it was the right rancho model for the trooper but it needed 2 people to pull the shock to full extension!

I don't think a wheel has enough weight to "fully extend" the shock on actual use. The KYB gas naturally rebounds to full length but the rancho won't. Also asked a shop to measure the rancho vs orig- they too found it short. Is this normal with rancho 5s?

**ARB** · July 17th, 2003 09:44 AM

IMO lang they used the old part no for your trooper, the old box type has shorter shocks than the new one. and yes front shocks usually is fully extended when the suspension extends to the bump stop. maybe a half inch difference is ok but not a couple.

the rs5 is not gas filled so it wont extend like the KYB's which are gas type and will extend automatically when you get the strings.

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