Isuzu Dmax Owners [continued]

[rna800]

After more than 130k kms, napalitan na ang ball joints, tie rod bar, suspension bushing ng Dmax ko.

About 2 months ago, all my shocks were replaced. Then one evening, when I was parking it, I heard it squeaking. I thought that it can't be those shocks since they are still new. Brought it to the dealership for check up. Then un ang nakita. Total damage was more than 37k pesos.

Ang napansin ko lang na recuring problem ng Dmax ko ay ung tensioner getting loose and causing the engine to producing a whining, buzzing sound. I have posted it here before kung paanon ung sound na un. The good thing is, never nagka aberya ang truck even if that sound is audible. Nakakairita nga lang.

[miked]

Lalo na yung bnew 4ja1 ng crosswind 2015 model.

tsaka yung 4d56 ng adventure at L300......galit na galit ka sa isuzu ah. relak ka lang. maige pa nga yung "newer" 4ja1 may turbocharger na for cleaner emissions. yung mga turbocharger na mga iyan (lalu na mga low charge) e for the purpose of cleaner emissions. kumbaga consequence lang yung added hp.

[glenn manikis]

After more than 130k kms, napalitan na ang ball joints, tie rod bar, suspension bushing ng Dmax ko.

About 2 months ago, all my shocks were replaced. Then one evening, when I was parking it, I heard it squeaking. I thought that it can't be those shocks since they are still new. Brought it to the dealership for check up. Then un ang nakita. Total damage was more than 37k pesos.

Ang napansin ko lang na recuring problem ng Dmax ko ay ung tensioner getting loose and causing the engine to producing a whining, buzzing sound. I have posted it here before kung paanon ung sound na un. The good thing is, never nagka aberya ang truck even if that sound is audible. Nakakairita nga lang.

*130k kms. You already replaced Mga pang ilalim mo sir? Isn't it premature?

Yung crosswind Ng friend ko.. 250k plus kms. Wala pang pinalitan sa pang ilalim.. Maliban sa shocks... Pang byahe pa yun..

[rna800]

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I don't know what should be the km reading for it to be not premature but the way I used my truck and the roads that it has been through, for OEM suspension system, for me I think it's already reasonable. Those parts that were replaced, pwede pa naman but it's my choice to replace. Hindi ko gustong mag drive ng vehicle na parang laspag na laspag ang feeling.

It has carried rocks, 6 feet high marble statues, wooden statues, goods, sacks of rice, steel, etc. You name it. Basta lagay lang sa bed lahat. Then ung mga roads that it has been through for more than 7 yrs, from north to south of Luzon, pwede na un. I recall less than 2 wks after purchase, sabak agad siya sa kargahan.

[glenn manikis]

Re: Isuzu foton= based on our experienced with isuzu engines made in China kahit B rating pa Yan... hindi reliable yan, hindi tumatagal... Malayo sa Isuzu na made in Japan...

Re: Cummins Engine naman: Saan specific factory Ng cummins Galing yung cummins engine? Hindi lahat ng cummins engine na galing China Original... Madaming fake dun..!!! Pero may cummins na class A MATIBAy din... Pero iba pa din ang original.... honestly wala naman 2.8 na lumabas na engine na galing mismo sa factory ng cummins engine sa China... Pinaka maliit na engine nila 3.9Li at B series--

[kevinworld]

Foton & Cummins | Foton Global

They produce 2.8 Cummins engines. Google mo, don't pretend you know.

[kevinworld]

tsaka yung 4d56 ng adventure at L300......galit na galit ka sa isuzu ah. relak ka lang. maige pa nga yung "newer" 4ja1 may turbocharger na for cleaner emissions. yung mga turbocharger na mga iyan (lalu na mga low charge) e for the purpose of cleaner emissions. kumbaga consequence lang yung added hp.

Walang galit. It's the truth. Everyone praises but never nilabas ang baho. If 4ja1 vs 4d56. Mas usok talaga 4ja1 in real world use. Noise and vibrations, talo din 4ja1. Casa maintenance, mas mahal din isuzu vs Mitsubishi.

[MD888]

Walang galit. It's the truth. Everyone praises but never nilabas ang baho. If 4ja1 vs 4d56. Mas usok talaga 4ja1 in real world use. Noise and vibrations, talo din 4ja1. Casa maintenance, mas mahal din isuzu vs Mitsubishi.

You see, the problem with your posts is that you always seem like you want to find the negative side of things, in particular, of Isuzu. I still do not understand why so many people are hating on Isuzu, you included. Clearly, the benefits of owning one far overshadow the possible drawbacks.

Also, stop going out of the thread's topic. The 4JA1 is now for the Crosswind, not the D-Max. If you want to rant about the 4JA1, head over to the Crosswind thread and leave us in peace. I bet you will have more fun with their reactions over there. I will not deny that both engines have a greater tendency to belch out smoke. But who ever said that in this case, the 4JA1 is worse? I still see way more 4D56-powered Mitsubishis, even the current Montero Sports, that belch out loads of black smoke. If you claim that the Isuzu belches smoke out more, you better provide us with proof. And I mean do not just send us a link showing how much the Isuzu belches. We want a source that clearly shows a comparison and states/explains why the 4JA1 supposedly belches smoke more than the 4D56. Otherwise, your claims have no merit.

Maintenance wise, they just might be equal when you think about it. Since the 4JA1 uses a timing chain, it does not need to be serviced at around 80k - 100k km, which is the case with the Adventure's 4D56. Yes, Isuzu parts may be more affordable, but with this replacement, they pretty much even out. Adding to that, if you really do your research, the Mitsubishi tends to be less reliable and less powerful than the Isuzu. The first point would equate to more times at the casa/repair shop and higher costs. I am not saying that the Mitsubishi sucks though. It just cannot match up to the Isuzu in this case, aside from cheaper parts.


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[glenn manikis]

Foton & Cummins | Foton Global

They produce 2.8 Cummins engines. Google mo, don't pretend you know.

That is a foton plant... Na naka joint venture sa cummins..
Tama ka Meron palang 2.8li engine Foton cummins engine that come from a foton plant...

Just like Foton ISuzu or Foton Daimler, Or Even Foton Weichai--

Yung planta ngayon ba Should be called cummins plant? Or isuzu plant? Or Daimler plant?

Or a Foton plant?

Madaming planta sa China na naka joint venture sa cummins sa China.. Isa sa pinaka malaki is Camda...

Pero Yung talagang Planta ng cummins sa China, DCEC and CEC pag authentic cummins dun Lang talaga pinag gagalingan ng engine nyan sa China... Ang tawag nila dun authentic cummins.. Pag dun galing...

Parang joint venture ng ssyangyong and Mercedes Benz.. They made the Mercedes SUV and the M100 van..

Question Pareho ba ang quality?

Yung isuzu Foton-- Pareho ba ng quality ng isuzu Japan?

I'll search for the proof of authenticity ng Cummins na made in China... Pag may ganun ang Foton cummins sa engine nila.. It means Subuk, Maganda at quality talaga engine na yun.. Possible din kasi na Yung cylinder head and engine block ng ISF engines galing sa CEC or DCEC cummins.. Then Yung Ibang parts like valves, pistons, camshaft etc, galing naman sa Foton..

Kung masisilip mo sa engine nila na meron Proof of Authenticity, ang tawag nila.. Sure quality talaga yun.

Pero kung wala... Quality pa din naman-- Pero not like sa mgA subok na subok na ng engine ng cummins world wide.. Why? Kasi CEC and DCEC cummins plant is known to produce cummins engines that's in accordance with the global quality standards of cummins USA

Hanapin ko Yung proof of authenticity ng cummins China ha.. Then post ko po dito...

[MD888]

Yes, Isuzu parts may be more affordable

Apologies, I meant Mitsubishi.


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[kevinworld]

You see, the problem with your posts is that you always seem like you want to find the negative side of things, in particular, of Isuzu. I still do not understand why so many people are hating on Isuzu, you included. Clearly, the benefits of owning one far overshadow the possible drawbacks.

Also, stop going out of the thread's topic. The 4JA1 is now for the Crosswind, not the D-Max. If you want to rant about the 4JA1, head over to the Crosswind thread and leave us in peace. I bet you will have more fun with their reactions over there. I will not deny that both engines have a greater tendency to belch out smoke. But who ever said that in this case, the 4JA1 is worse? I still see way more 4D56-powered Mitsubishis, even the current Montero Sports, that belch out loads of black smoke. If you claim that the Isuzu belches smoke out more, you better provide us with proof. And I mean do not just send us a link showing how much the Isuzu belches. We want a source that clearly shows a comparison and states/explains why the 4JA1 supposedly belches smoke more than the 4D56. Otherwise, your claims have no merit.

Maintenance wise, they just might be equal when you think about it. Since the 4JA1 uses a timing chain, it does not need to be serviced at around 80k - 100k km, which is the case with the Adventure's 4D56. Yes, Isuzu parts may be more affordable, but with this replacement, they pretty much even out. Adding to that, if you really do your research, the Mitsubishi tends to be less reliable and less powerful than the Isuzu. The first point would equate to more times at the casa/repair shop and higher costs. I am not saying that the Mitsubishi sucks though. It just cannot match up to the Isuzu in this case, aside from cheaper parts.


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Ang hindi maganda sa isuzu, they always tell the buyers... Pinaka bago po engine. 2015 model. Sa totoo pala, bawal na eto this coming January. Why do we have to defend them. Ang baho na nga ng taktiks.

Kulang sa business ethics. Contributing to Manila's pollution. Kahit yung newly introduced na 4jj1-tcx. That is an over 5 yr old engine sa labas. 4jj1-tcx was introduced in late 2006. Bakit ngayon ka lang? After almost a decade. For phase out na ata sa labas. Wake up... It's like smelling the garbage, the salesman told you it smells good and you said yes.

[MD888]

Ang hindi maganda sa isuzu, they always tell the buyers... Pinaka bago po engine. 2015 model. Sa totoo pala, bawal na eto this coming January. Why do we have to defend them. Ang baho na nga ng taktiks.

Kulang sa business ethics. Contributing to Manila's pollution. Kahit yung newly introduced na 4jj1-tcx. That is an over 5 yr old engine sa labas. 4jj1-tcx introduced in late 2006. Bakit ngayon ka lang? After almost a decade. For phase out na ata sa labas. Wake up... It's like smelling the garbage, the salesman told you it smells good and you said yes.

I am not defending Isuzu Philippines. I just find the extent of your ranting completely unnecessary. Plus you are merely stressing yourself and the other forum members out with your negativity. Why complain about how Isuzu Philippines makes us think that they are providing us with the newest technology? Only a fool would fall for the the salesman's claims that it is the newest and latest. Smart buyers know better than that, and if you do not like what a certain brand offers, simply buy your car elsewhere. Or like I said before, go buy gray market. If you can really complain that much, I would assume that you have the resources to buy the exact variant that you want. Most of us here are fine with what Isuzu is offering in our country, and we know for a fact that we are content with older technology because it may suit our needs even better than the latest tech (Ex: Better availability of parts, easier/less complicated repairs, more familiarity, generally proven and more reliable, etc). The way you always want the latest and greatest really gives off that vibe that you have a great sense of entitlement. I am sure you are better than that.

Once again, I cannot see enough evidence to believe your claims that the 4JJ1 is a smoke belcher / strong pollutant. That engine is still newer than Mitsubishi's ancient and ever-belching 4D56, even if the latter received more recent modification. So why not rant to Mitsubishi as well? Plus in case you have not read the article posted a few weeks ago, the new 1.9 Ddi is not their top of the line engine in Thailand. It still is the 3.0 4JJ1 TCX.

Once again, we are smarter than the salesmen, and we (most of us, at least) freely decided knowing fully what we would get. Do not make unintelligent remarks by assuming and saying we are falling for the dealers' tricks, for we really are not.


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[Erika Cacayuan]

Ang hindi maganda sa isuzu, they always tell the buyers... Pinaka bago po engine. 2015 model. Sa totoo pala, bawal na eto this coming January. Why do we have to defend them. Ang baho na nga ng taktiks.

Kulang sa business ethics. Contributing to Manila's pollution. Kahit yung newly introduced na 4jj1-tcx. That is an over 5 yr old engine sa labas. 4jj1-tcx was introduced in late 2006. Bakit ngayon ka lang? After almost a decade. For phase out na ata sa labas. Wake up... It's like smelling the garbage, the salesman told you it smells good and you said yes.

Hahahah Pag pasensyahan nyo na po. Nakawala nanaman sa Home for the AGED si Tanda. LOL.
Lolo balik na po. Tahan na.. tahan na..

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Ang hindi maganda sa isuzu, they always tell the buyers... Pinaka bago po engine. 2015 model. Sa totoo pala, bawal na eto this coming January. Why do we have to defend them. Ang baho na nga ng taktiks.

Kulang sa business ethics. Contributing to Manila's pollution. Kahit yung newly introduced na 4jj1-tcx. That is an over 5 yr old engine sa labas. 4jj1-tcx was introduced in late 2006. Bakit ngayon ka lang? After almost a decade. For phase out na ata sa labas. Wake up... It's like smelling the garbage, the salesman told you it smells good and you said yes.

Hahahah Pag pasensyahan nyo na po. Nakawala nanaman sa Home for the AGED si Tanda. LOL.
Lolo balik na po. Tahan na.. tahan na..

[Erika Cacayuan]

Walang galit. It's the truth. Everyone praises but never nilabas ang baho. If 4ja1 vs 4d56. Mas usok talaga 4ja1 in real world use. Noise and vibrations, talo din 4ja1. Casa maintenance, mas mahal din isuzu vs Mitsubishi.

Meron kaya ako nun.. hindi naman mausok eh.. Siraulo talaga ito.. hahaha.

Mag research ka muna bago ka mag comment.. at siguraduhin mo naintindihan mo ni-research mo ah... Nakakahiya.. hahahaha..

[Louie Anson Ng]

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[Syuryuken]

it's only now ipc claimed their new 3.0 engine to be b10. Hindi b10 yung previous 3.0 engine. Despite all, isuzu 3.0 engine still fall short of the 3yr old foton engine. The mivec diesels will kick isuzu in terms of durability and economy. More power, more torque. Still a long way to catch up. Not to mention the old decade ride quality of Isuzu. That's why, we just left ours to our driver to use. The noise and ride quality is really bad.

owwss sige post mo nga pic mo kasama ng isuzu mo na pinapagamit na lang sa driver nyo kung wala ka namang pruweba eh mas magandang tumahimik ka na lang.

dami mong alam para kang bigasan pag makalampag walang kalaman-laman.

[miked]

Walang galit. It's the truth. Everyone praises but never nilabas ang baho. If 4ja1 vs 4d56. Mas usok talaga 4ja1 in real world use. Noise and vibrations, talo din 4ja1. Casa maintenance, mas mahal din isuzu vs Mitsubishi.

siguro dahil "everyone praises it" dahil sa reliability (yung kaso ng ja1 kamo). di na pinapansin ang ingay, blah blah. kasi naman in the first place, yang makinang iyan ay sa industrial use naman talaga. workhorse. pickup, forklift, excavator, etc....

sinubukan ilagay sa auv, e ayun dumami din ang natuwa dahil siguro swak sa kanilang pangangailangan. no computers, no problems.

pero kamo mas mausok ang 4ja1? di mo siguro alam imaintain ng maayos ang crosswind mo. kasimple simpleng makina di mo maayos. or lemon siguro iyan.

[Luap]

siguro dahil "everyone praises it" dahil sa reliability (yung kaso ng ja1 kamo). di na pinapansin ang ingay, blah blah. kasi naman in the first place, yang makinang iyan ay sa industrial use naman talaga. workhorse. pickup, forklift, excavator, etc....

sinubukan ilagay sa auv, e ayun dumami din ang natuwa dahil siguro swak sa kanilang pangangailangan. no computers, no problems.

pero kamo mas mausok ang 4ja1? di mo siguro alam imaintain ng maayos ang crosswind mo. kasimple simpleng makina di mo maayos. or lemon siguro iyan.

Korek! Lemon nga, lemon ang utak nyang si kevinoutofthisworld. Putak ng putak walang laman ang utak. Siguro sasakyan nyan walang kausok usok...oo nga pala walang usok ang bisikleta.

[Syuryuken]

Yan ang problema sa mga batang pinabili lang ng suka sa tindahan.

[Djerms]

siguro dahil "everyone praises it" dahil sa reliability (yung kaso ng ja1 kamo). di na pinapansin ang ingay, blah blah. kasi naman in the first place, yang makinang iyan ay sa industrial use naman talaga. workhorse. pickup, forklift, excavator, etc....

sinubukan ilagay sa auv, e ayun dumami din ang natuwa dahil siguro swak sa kanilang pangangailangan. no computers, no problems.

pero kamo mas mausok ang 4ja1? di mo siguro alam imaintain ng maayos ang crosswind mo. kasimple simpleng makina di mo maayos. or lemon siguro iyan.

Nakakamiss talaga yang "no computers....no problems". Dati lumalamon ng kahit ano ang mga old diesels.