Isuzu D-Max hater! bakit angdami nila?

**dct** · October 9th, 2012 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by d_mac

Meron din kami Monterosport by the way chief. At kung nais mo pa meron din Mitsubishi Adventure hehe.... Kaya don't worry, i know what i'm talking about. Since the Nissan Eagle days-to the Pathfinder-to-Isuzu Fuego-to-Hilux 2.8D-to L200 to the L200 Endevaour up to the present days, i've been driving pickups all over, both work-related and owned somehow. So i know how well capable they are in terms of hardwork as my job is entirely different from the nature of city-based jobs.

The Philippine-version Dmax is not what i really love as a matter of fact.... i wish though the one that is issued in Philippines is the better Dmax that comes with the VNT (4JJ1-TCX engine). With our Philippine Dmax, which is already a 2nd-generation behind model, of course i have some things that i wish for that it had like the other Dmax. However, when it comes to the topic of better fuel consumption and durability, like our Philippine-version Dmax, it is well PROVEN in terms of these aspects, that you're not even talking in probable terms.

ha? parang ang layo ng sagot mo sir. sabi ko nga, i respect your opinion. wala naman ako sinasabing mali ang sinasabi mo ah. ang sabi ko lang, wag mo pilitin sa iba ang opinion mo. yun lang.. sabihin na nating tama ka at mali kami, wag lang mapilit. parang SA ang dating e

**d_mac** · October 9th, 2012 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by dct

ha? parang ang layo ng sagot mo sir. sabi ko nga, i respect your opinion. wala naman ako sinasabing mali ang sinasabi mo ah. ang sabi ko lang, wag mo pilitin sa iba ang opinion mo. yun lang.. sabihin na nating tama ka at mali kami, wag lang mapilit. parang SA ang dating e

Hehe, hindi naman tayo nampipilit.... Basahin mo response ko ng matino pa usapan. Nampipilit na ba yan.

See ang susunod kong reply sa isang nag-post

**dct** · October 9th, 2012 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by d_mac

Hehe, hindi naman tayo nampipilit.... Basahin mo response ko ng matino pa usapan. Nampipilit na ba yan.

See ang susunod kong reply sa isang nag-post

hindi yung ngayon sir, yung sa mga dating post. yung may mga chart pa para lang maexplain yung sinasabi mo

**d_mac** · October 9th, 2012 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by slapz

Umm, makisingit lang, eto yung first post dun sa Strada Hilux and Dmax:

Parang sumablay ka ata diyan Boss D_mac...

Originally Posted by dualsim

pero tama ka daw... panalo sa kunsumo yan... mali ba na isingit ko daw na strada/navara kasi 2 out of 3... di ba?

At heto naman ang latest enquiry ng thread starter at ang latest reply niya na hindi katanggap-tanggap kay Kevin3000 Strada at sa mga cohorts niya (dualsim etc)

Originally Posted by jacob23

Those i believe are more than 1M already Actually it is out of my price range me and my sister will shoulder the cost. All I need is a dependable and pickup with good FC and maintenance.

Originally Posted by d_mac

Siempre Dmax chief!

Runs in maintenance-free timing gear-and-chain, wala kang kaba.... Yang Hilux at Strada in timing belts. Medyo kakaba-kaba ka na before even reaching every 100,000-km mark....

....Resulta ng patid na timing belt sir, while you're running - alam mo na, engine seizure, sira piston mo at cylinder pag napabayaan. Pag napatid na yan, huwag na huwag pilitin i-start sir si Hilux o si Strada (not the 3.2-litre 4M41 though that runs in timing chain as well), lalaki lalo sira niyan sa loob.... Make no mistake about it, as a family, we have had Toyota's, Isuzu's and Mitsubishi's

Kung FC pinag-uusapan, wala ng mas titipid pa sa Dmax. 11.7 km per litre daw si misis sa Dmax even in Metro Manila driving, kasama pa daily morning standstill warm-ups diyan as we never load the engine until it is within its operating temperature. It is also the only one in the market na "long-stroke" diesel. Almost ka-stroke length nito ang 3.2-litre 4M41 na makina ng Mitsubishi. Pinag-kaiba lang significantly ay ang bore size ng cylinder.

As far as year model ng mga makina is concerned, here are as follows:

1. Strada - Year 1990's old 4D56 that was mated with a high-boost mechanical VGT. Puhunan ng 178 hp niya ay "boosting", en tonses....

2. Hilux - Year 2001 1KD-FTV diesel intercooled (for the 3.0-litre D-4D) and it already comes standard with a variable nozzle turbocharger since its conception (VNT or VGT, it's just the same banana.... Honeywell yata gumawa ng VNT). The 1KD-FTV is also shared with the Toyota Prado, only that the engine in the Prado is tweaked-out, kaya malakas kaysa sa Hilux's 1KD-FTV.

3. Dmax (Philippine-issue) - Year 2004 4JJ1-TC that comes only with a wastegate turbocharger. It was designed primarily just for better fuel consumption and lower carbon emission not for earth-shaking peak performance (the Dmax has the lowest carbon emission, while the Navara pollutes the highest). The one with the VGT is not sold here. This is the one you see in Thailand before the Dmax RT-50 came out. What we have here in Pinas is a 2nd-generation behind engine wahehehehe.... The one with the VGT is a tweaked-out 4JJ1-TC in 2005 then released in 2006, dubbed as 4JJ1-TCX or 4JJ1-TC "hi-power".

Cheers! Goodluck sa choices mo sir.

I will check out the D-max and schedule for a test drive. Thanks d_mac very informative

Pag-pipili kayo ni dualsim ng ipo-post na prueba, basahin ninyo muna lahat ang thread. Hindi yung pipili lang kayo dahil sa gusto niyo lang pumili.

**Bin Diesel** · October 9th, 2012 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by chua_riwap

Ma "sbowbiz" na ba, puno ng intriga? He- he!

Tigil nyo na yang "hater" threads......

Ok na din ang mga hater threads basta dito na lang sila magsipag post. Lagi kasi nahahijack ang comparo threads ng mga ito e. Sana naman matuto mga ito rumespeto sa mga thread starters at ng di nagiging walang kwenta mga thread dito sa tsikot.

Haay hirap talaga kapag dumadami ang mga immature.

**chua_riwap** · October 9th, 2012 11:35 PM

Alangya.....el nino na rito.
Mainit........

**slapz** · October 9th, 2012 11:59 PM

Oh well.. I think it's still d_mac who does selective reasoning.

**soyti75** · October 10th, 2012 12:02 AM

I would have bought a Dmax kung yung engine nya eh VGS turbo na, kaso ang tagal tagal na eh yun pa ring lumang engine ang dmax philippines eh.

**dualsim** · October 10th, 2012 12:08 AM

super OT...

sir slapz... di ba CPA ka... eto ang para sa iyo para naman maganda tulog mo... my wife is also a CPA...

nice comment btw...

Originally Posted by slapz

Oh well.. I think it's still d_mac who does selective reasoning.

**Vhincent** · October 10th, 2012 12:23 AM

*D_mac,

Gawa ka din ng thread Strada haters hehehe joke lang po.

Isuzu owner din ako and i love my pick up, matipid sa crudo (lagi ko ngang pinagmamalaki un), di magastos sa maintenance as in sobrang tibay kahit mga pang ilalim. pero me dalawang complain lang ako sa pickup ko and un ung di ko masulosyunan ung tagtag nya and mejo makupad sa arangkada :D at dahil dito plano ko na siyang idispose at mag SUV hehehe..