Need advise about 4ja1-turbo engine

[fahrenheit20]

mga sir,
pwede pong magtanong kung mgkano 2nd hand 4JA1-turbo na engine ng sportivo yung may papers?san po pwede makipagswap 4JA1 engine non-turbo sa 4JA1 turbo?we're planning kc to change engine our crosswind xuv 2003..
tnx in advance!

[4JGtootsie]

Sir bakit niyo gusto palitan?
Kung more power you might want to consider 4JB1-t

[GundamWing]

wala na bang conversion kapag pinalitan ng 4jb1 ang corsswind?

[BeetOls]

how much is the gain from an NA 4ja1 to the turbo version? i think i've read somewhere here in the forum about a turbo kit for it? i might be mistaken though.

tried shopping around as i'm preparing for the inevitable (although i hope not any time sooN), a bnew 4jb1t would cost around P300k, including the tranny; this is from the casa; parang gusto ko nalang magpa overhaul should the time come...

sir 4jg, is that worth it if i want to keep my rig? do you guys at central diesel recommend overhauling instead?

thanks

[fahrenheit20]

sir 4JGTootsie, gsto ko lng sna malaman cost papalit makina kasi yung nabili ng tatay ko n 2003 xuv manual eh marami n mileage 171K km na eh baka malapit na bumigay makina kaya naisipan ko itanong

[mintoy]

sir 4JGTootsie, gsto ko lng sna malaman cost papalit makina kasi yung nabili ng tatay ko n 2003 xuv manual eh marami n mileage 171K km na eh baka malapit na bumigay makina kaya naisipan ko itanong

bro. mababa pa ang 171km para sa 4ja1 mo. sabi ng kaibigan ko sa isuzu. those engines will run up to 300k km. basta alaga sa langis and proper maintenance. fuego 4jb1t ng asawa ko 280K+km na. hindi pa na overhaul. calibration lang ang ginawa sa makina. and it still runs well.

bro. very powerful ang 4jg2 engine. the crosswind was not designed to handle the power of this engine. you will have to also upgrade other components like the brakes.

[niky]

*double post*

[niky]

The 4JA1T really isn't all that powerful. You'll get maybe 5-10 more horses than the 4JA1... going from being a slug to a snail... We put the 4JA1-T on the dyno and it made a pathetic amount of power... some 55-65 whp, if I recall. (equivalent to 75-80 bhp). And it only made about 5 psi of boost. You can likely get more boost pressure by blowing into a tube leading to the engine yourself. :hysterical:

If you really want power, the 4JB1 is probably the easiest swap to perform. Better yet, you could just turbo your regular 4JA1, give it a bigger turbo than the stock one on the 4JA1T (maybe a Pajero turbo? Those are pretty common), add an adjustable wastegate and have a shop adjust your fuel pump to meet the increased fuel needs... probably more effective than swapping out engines whole.

[rsnald]

agree with niky, bale wala 4JA-T, appreciate that he gave us the hard data. Sa totohanang takbuhan sa kalsada, I dont see much advantage of the newer 4JA1-T powered crosswinds over the older 4JA1 powered crosswinds. pareho ang bilis at arangkada, minsan mas mabilis pa older models kase, well broken in na engines.

on the mileage, 300thou KM lang ba life ng 4jA1? wow...then lapit na pala ako 230thou na ako eh.

on engine replacement, pwede daw yung 4JB1-T, the turbo 2.8L engine of the Fuego 4x4, pero palit transmission, and front suspensions, for the crosswind. I dunno about putting it into a trooper but I think it will work. If i remember correctly, on paper the 4JB1-t had 100 hp vs. the 84 hp of the 4JA1-t.

hth

[4JGtootsie]

sir 4jg, is that worth it if i want to keep my rig? do you guys at central diesel recommend overhauling instead?

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Kung ako lang ang masusunod overhaul. Basta you follow the data, tolerances and specification then magandang break-in solve!

171klm for isuzu mills are peanuts especially for non aspirated engines.

Yung nagoverhaul ako ng 4JG2-TC ko, masaya ako dahil nakita ko talaga ang laman,how it works, stress and wear areas at gaano kabigat ang mga components,ni check ko lahat ng conponents according sa manual.

[983264]

Good morning mga sir, ask ko lang po, which is better na ilagay sa crosswind? 4JG2-TC or 4JB1-TC? In terms of mileage and power, which is better sa dalawang makina? We are planning to change the engine of our 2002 XUV Crossswind... We need some advice... Good thing merong na open ng thread na ito ^_^

[Benzmizer]

Good morning mga sir, ask ko lang po, which is better na ilagay sa crosswind? 4JG2-TC or 4JB1-TC? In terms of mileage and power, which is better sa dalawang makina? We are planning to change the engine of our 2002 XUV Crossswind... We need some advice... Good thing merong na open ng thread na ito ^_^

I have witnessed a 4JB1 engine mounted in a Crosswind, pwede. But more than just worrying if an engine would fit the enginebay and it's gear ratios, you need to also check the brake system. Remember, a vehicle is designed/tested with related components complimenting each other. You may have the extra horses on your engine pero baka naman di ka maka-preno in time when you need it, disaster kakalabasan nun!

[niky]

The 4JG2 might fit... but the B1 is a more direct and easier swap.

I have witnessed a 4JB1 engine mounted in a Crosswind, pwede. But more than just worrying if an engine would fit the enginebay and it's gear ratios, you need to also check the brake system. Remember, a vehicle is designed/tested with related components complimenting each other. You may have the extra horses on your engine pero baka naman di ka maka-preno in time when you need it, disaster kakalabasan nun!

Brakes? It hardly brakes at all with the stock engine... so what's the difference?

[mintoy]

bro, i had my wifes fruego 4jb1-t engine overhauled a month ago. and i spend a total of 30k on parts and another 32k on the labor and machineshop. reason for overhauling was that there was significant decrease in engine power going up antipolo with around 200kg in the bed. calibration and nozzel cleanning did not make a difference. so i had it compression tested. unfortunately, all cylinders failed the compression test. so i was convince to have it overhauled. mileage of the fuego was 280k km.

if you were to ask me. i would rather overhaul a 4ja1 engine rather than to get the same surplus engine. but have it done by a professional engine rebuilder (thats if you are planning to keep the car).

in my case. i had the engine overhauled at ATI in sta rosa. they replaced all the bearings and bushings and balanced the main pulley, connecting rods, pistons, piston rings, crank shaft, flywheel and the clutch. balancing alone cost almost 10k. they charged 2k to disassemble the engine, 2k for degreasing and 8.5k for the assembly. the rest was for the machining.

as for the parts, i had to supply all the parts. fortunately, the parts are easy to find (olympic auto supply, multilink, and jetco in pasay, and isuzu sales in caloocan). they recommended to get daido brand bearings, tp piston rings and izumi liners and pistons (unfortunately i was not able to buy the izumi pistons cuz i ran out of budget so i used a set made in korea).

and now it even runs smoother than when it was brand new

[mintoy]

btw, please listen to the warning of fellow members about changing to stronger engines. the crosswind was not made for high speed performace but more on durability. don't risk the lives of your love ones.

upgrading your brakes is not a simple nor cheap thing to do.

[983264]

How much ba ngayon ang 4JB1-T na engine, yung second hand... Kasya ba ang transmission ng crosswind sa makina?

[4JGtootsie]

The last fuegos where equipped with 4jb1 engines wihtout transfer case (non dual. I think it could work with few or no adjustments on the support. To be sure I suggest you buy with matching tranny. Ealier Mu where equipped with 4jb1, not electronic and manual trans is the most ideal.

[983264]

The last fuegos where equipped with 4jb1 engines wihtout transfer case (non dual. I think it could work with few or no adjustments on the support. To be sure I suggest you buy with matching tranny. Ealier Mu where equipped with 4jb1, not electronic and manual trans is the most ideal.

Sir, how much ba ngayon ang 4jb1 w/ manula tranny? yung merong turbo na 4jb1... canvasssing pa naman kami, hindi pa naman bibili...

[jaz014]

hello sir just saw one hi-lander with 4jb1-T on the hood check it on sulit.com ad no2053818 nicely done...baka makahingi ka ng tips sa owner kung ano yung mga mods na ginawa nya to fit it on the engine bay...galing....

[983264]

Bubuhayin ko muna tong thread na ito... Uhm, How much ba ngayon ang 4JG2-TC w/ Manual Tranny w/ Transfer Case? Or How much ba ngayon ang 4JB1-TC w/ Manual Tranny w/o Transfer Case?